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Hundreds Rally At Anti-Trump Protest In Manhattan
CBS New York ^ | 19 March 16 | Staff

Posted on 03/19/2016 1:01:43 PM PDT by SkyPilot

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I never was a fan of the Grahams, so, that doesnt impress me

Mostly because no one would ever put Trump in this next category if they knew their Bible at all, but you would put Cruz:


61 posted on 03/20/2016 3:14:11 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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No, it was way more than 50. I was there. Not as a Trump supporter, just to observe. I was there from slightly before noon to slightly after 1 p.m., at the Columbus Circle location. I didn’t go on the march, and I see from the Village Voice photos and others that there were Trump supporters at the Fifth Avenue tower.


62 posted on 03/20/2016 3:31:34 AM PDT by firebrand
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I originally posted yesterday that the crowd was around 2,000 by my best guess, but after reading several lower estimates and looking at the crowd pictures, I think my estimate was high. There were at least 500, though.

The Socialists were the first to arrive, already handing out their literature as they crossed Broadway from the subway. The rest trickled in slowly, and that may have been the reason for the low estimates: lazy reporters who didn’t feel like sticking around.


63 posted on 03/20/2016 3:43:02 AM PDT by firebrand
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Of the 500 people how many were professional leftist operatives, how many were just curiosity seekers, many were Trump supporters and how many were honest citizens who actually believed the “Trump is a racist” garbage.


64 posted on 03/20/2016 4:14:16 AM PDT by detective
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What do you hold against Rev Billy and Rev Franklin Graham? The former has brought the Gospel message to untold millions around the globe. The latter is one of the most courageous Christian voices left in our nation. Who are you a “fan” of?


65 posted on 03/20/2016 4:27:46 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Problems of Ecumenical Evangelism

Was Billy Graham Right or Wrong?

 

INTRODUCTORY REMARKS

For years the evangelistic campaigns of Billy Graham have drawn worldwide attention. Repeatedly he has been named the “Man of the Year” in the area of religion. It has been said that Dr. Graham has preached to more people than any other man in history. His influence is significant: 

As a stone cast into a pool produces concentric waves which ripple their way to the banks, so often the thoughts of one man influence a whole generation. It is no exaggeration to say that no man has more influence with evangelicals today than Billy Graham. He is immensely popular. [Erroll Hulse, Billy Graham—The Pastor’s Dilemma, p.34]

         We all recognize Billy Graham as a gifted speaker. As he has proclaimed the Bible message of salvation, we cannot deny that many have come to a saving knowledge of Christ, and for this we thank the Lord. I can remember as a new believer being greatly encouraged listening to Billy Graham preach on a televised crusade. At that time my heart was warmed by his preaching and blessed by his ministry.

         I take no delight, therefore, in being critical of the ministry of Dr. Billy Graham. From time to time people have questions about Billy Graham and they have difficulty understanding why we do not attend his crusades and why we do not commend and support his type of evangelistic efforts.

         Unsaved people in general see Billy Graham as the representative of Bible-believing Christianity. The evangelical world has esteemed him as its hero and champion. What he says and does, therefore, demands examination. “Prove all things [test all things by the Word of God] and hold fast that which is good” (1 Thess. 5:21). Numbers of Bible-believing people have been discerning and honest enough to recognize serious problems involved in Billy Graham’s ecumenical approach to evangelism. May we prayerfully and carefully consider these problems in the light of God’s Word. This is a delicate and difficult subject. May the Lord help us as we proceed.

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1. BILLY GRAHAMS'S EARLY YEARS

Billy Graham was born in 1918. As a boy he had contact with the noted evangelist Billy Sunday. He attended Wheaton College where he majored in anthropology. In 1960 Billy Graham wrote, “I had no formal theological training. I had never been to Seminary” (Article in The Christian Century: “What Ten Years Have Taught Me”). He spent a short time in the Pastorate. He was one of the leading evangelists in the Youth For Christ organization back in the days when that organization was fundamental. In 1949 he became President of Northwestern Schools, but he soon left that school in order to give himself fully to evangelistic work.

2. BILLY GRAHAM'S ORIGINAL POSITION REGARDING COOPERATION

The issue of cooperation involves the following questions: Should the evangelist cooperate in evangelistic efforts with modernists (those who deny the fundamentals of the faith)? Should evangelistic crusades be sponsored by liberals, modernists and unbelievers? Should evangelicals call upon liberal churchmen to lead in prayer, head up committees and take part in counseling those making decisions? Should the evangelist befriend, encourage, assist and cooperate with religious leaders who are not sound in the faith and who deny the Christ of the Bible? Should we work together with those who disbelieve the Bible, mock the miracles of the Bible such as the virgin birth and the resurrection, deny the deity of Christ, and who count as foolishness His substitutionary death on the cross?

How would Billy Graham have answered these questions originally?

A. Billy Graham’s Fundamentalist Background

Billy Graham was associated with Dr. W.B. Riley, a great defender of the faith and an ardent fundamentalist, the founder and president of Northwestern Schools. Billy Graham was personally chosen by Riley to be his successor to the presidency of Northwestern Schools. When Riley died, it was Graham who preached the funeral service.

Graham was on the Cooperating Board of the Sword of the Lord, a fundamental paper edited by Dr. John R. Rice. Graham’s sermons appeared frequently in this paper.

Graham was honored by Bob Jones University with a doctor’s degree, and he was a personal friend of Bob Jones Sr. and Bob Jones Jr.

These examples give strong evidence that Graham was originally part of the fundamentalist, separatist camp.

B. Billy Graham’s Attitude Towards Modernists

In Pilot, the magazine of Northwestern Schools, April 1951, Dr. Graham lamented the appearance of an ad for a book by Dr. Harry Emerson Fosdick which had appeared in that paper and he wrote the following: "We do not condone nor have fellowship with any form of modernism."

In a letter to Dr. John R. Rice, dated May 10, 1952, Dr. Graham said: "Contrary to any rumors that are constantly floating about, we have never had a modernist on our Executive Committee, and we have never been sponsored by the Council of Churches in any city, except Shreveport and Greensboro, both small towns where the majority of the ministers are evangelical."

In a letter to Dr. Bob Jones, Sr., June 3, 1952, Graham said, "The modernists do not support us anywhere. We have never been sponsored by the Council of Churches in any cities except Greensboro and Shreveport."

C. Billy Graham’s Early Campaigns

Billy Graham’s big break came late in the fall of 1949, at the Los Angeles crusade. The papers gave Graham enormous coverage. Overnight he became a national figure, due to the large publicity which he received. Ten years later Graham himself describes this significant crusade and the doors of opportunity which it opened:

It was just 10 years ago that my evangelistic work came to the attention of the church as the result of a Los Angeles crusade. To me it was like a bolt of lightning out of a clear sky. I was bewildered, challenged and humbled by the sudden avalanche of opportunities that deluged me...Telephone calls, telegrams and letters began to pour in from all over the world, inviting me and my associates to come for crusades or speaking engagements. (from The Christian Century, 1960)

This Los Angeles crusade was sponsored solely by fundamentalists. As Dr. Bob Shuler wrote, "in his Los Angeles campaign, I personally saw and heard him turn down and politely decline the approval and cooperation of the Church Federation, which represented the Federal Council, now the National Council" [The Methodist Challenge, October 1957, p.3].

Graham refused to cooperate with modernists in his early evangelistic campaigns. His campaigns in Los Angeles, Hollywood and Fort Worth were sponsored solely by fundamentalists.

In 1955 he told Dr. John R. Rice in Scotland that "he had promised God he would never have on his committees, taking an active part in his campaigns, a man who denied the virgin birth of Christ, His Blood Atonement, or the verbal inspiration of the Bible" [Sword of the Lord, 6/9/63, p.5].
 

3. THE GREAT TURNING POINT [THE NEW YORK CRUSADE]

The New York Crusade as described by Robert Ferm, one of Graham’s most ardent supporters:

The years since 1949 have been some of the most spectacular years of history...During this time Billy Graham and his team have campaigned in many of the major cities of America and in free countries around the world. The increasing effectiveness of the crusades reached a climax in the New York Crusade where more than 60,000 persons responded to the invitation, and an additional 30,000 wrote to tell of decisions they had been influenced to make by the television ministry.

In 1954 Jack Wyrtzen, a noted New York youth leader, along with several other fundamentalists, issued an invitation to Billy Graham to come to New York sponsored by born-again believers. This invitation was rejected by Graham, on the grounds that not enough churches were represented. At about the same time, the Protestant Council of New York, which is predominantly liberal, invited Dr. Graham to New York under their auspices. After some delay the invitation from the Protestant Council was accepted. Thus the invitation from the liberal Council was accepted; the invitation from the fundamentalists rejected.

As a result, the crusade was held in 1957. Lawyer James Bennett, a longtime resident of New York City and strong Christian leader there for years, estimates that the General Crusade Committee in New York was composed of about 120 modernists and unbelievers and about 20 fundamentalists, and the Executive Committee contained about 15 modernists and 5 fundamentalists.

Among those who served on the Crusade Committees were men such as...

According to Christian Life [Sept. 1957, p.25] the church that received the most decision cards of any New York Church was the Marble Collegiate Church, pastored by "positive thinking" Norman Vincent Peale (a man who did not preach the true gospel in his pulpit or in his writings). He received 373 decision cards. How terrible! Save the lost sheep and then send them to the wolves!

On April 3 Graham addressed the National Association of Evangelicals and said, "Our New York Campaign has been challenged by some extremists on two points. First as to sponsorship, I would like to make myself clear. I intend to go anywhere, sponsored by anybody, to preach the Gospel of Christ, if there are no strings attached to my message. I am sponsored by civic clubs, universities, ministerial associations and councils of churches all over the world. I intend to continue" [Christian Beacon, April 4, 1957].

 

4. OTHER EVIDENCE OF CHANGE

In 1956 (a year prior to the New York campaign) there was already evidence of Graham’s shift in position. When Graham came to Japan he demanded that both conservatives and modernistic pro-Shinto believers unite for the purpose of evangelism. Kagawa, a noted Japanese liberal and opponent of Bible truth, appeared on the platform with Graham. Liberal churchmen also appeared on the platform and participated in the Crusade in Graham’s meetings in England.

In 1955 (two years prior to the New York campaign) during Billy Graham’s Scotland crusade an interviewer asked him to define the fundamentalist label he had been plastered with. Billy objected. "I don’t call myself a fundamentalist," he said. To Graham there seemed to be an aura of bigotry and narrowness associated with the term "fundamentalist" which he certainly hoped was not true of himself. "I prefer to call myself a "constructionist," Billy said, explaining he was seeking to rebuild the church (March 1956, Christian Life).

Another key crusade was that of San Francisco. Graham had refused two invitations to come to California under fundamental sponsorship (one by the Christ-for-San Francisco Committee which included about 100 fundamental churches and one by the United Evangelistic Churches of Oakland). However the liberal council of the Bay Area invited Graham to hold a campaign and this invitation was accepted. On September 26, 1957, 65 fundamental ministers of the San Francisco area issued a proclamation in which it was stated that these fundamental men would cooperate with the Graham Crusade if all participating churches and ministers were required to subscribe to the following minimal doctrinal statement:

Graham refused to make belief in these doctrines a prerequisite for participation in the crusade. As a result the General Crusade Committee for the San Francisco Crusade was dominated from the start by men who were advocates of liberal theology. Amongst others in support of the crusade was Bishop James A. Pike, Episcopalian Bishop of the diocese of California. Pike was asked to lead in prayer before the crowds. Pike considered the Garden of Eden and the Virgin Birth to be mere myths.

It was around this same time that Graham separated from John R. Rice and The Sword of the Lord. Rice asked Graham if he could conscientiously sign the doctrinal statement which appeared on the front page of every issue of his paper. The statement reads as follows: "An Independent Christian Weekly, Standing for the Verbal Inspiration of the Bible, the Deity of Christ, His Blood Atonement, Salvation by Faith, New Testament Soul-Winning, and the Premillennial Return of Christ. Opposes Modernism, Worldliness, and Formalism." In reply Graham stated that he did not believe he could sign the doctrinal statement as carried by the paper, and requested that his name be dropped from the Cooperating Board.

Billy Graham’s separation from fundamentalism is also evidenced by the fact that he helped to launch the magazine Christianity Today, a magazine that generally opposes fundamentalism and promotes the new evangelical philosophy. Graham told a ministerial friend that he gave $10,000 to start the magazine, and that he influenced others to give largely. The magazine has consistently featured his campaigns and has promoted his philosophy of coexistence with modernism and neo-orthodoxy.

Graham himself admits that his concept of the church has become less narrow: "A fourth change is to be seen in the fact that during the past ten years my concept of the church has taken on greater dimension. Ten years ago my concept of the church tended to be narrow and provincial, but after a decade of intimate contact with Christians the world over I am now aware that the family of God contains people of various ethnological, cultural, class and denominational differences" [The Christian Century, Feb. 17, 1960, "What Ten Years Have Taught Me"].

In the Los Angeles crusade of 1963, Bishop Gerald Kennedy of the Methodist Church was chairman of the General Crusade Committee. He was also on the executive committee. Kennedy wrote a book entitled God’s Good News in which he eloquently denies the deity of Christ. Need we say more?

In the crusade held in Montevideo a man by the name of Castro was called upon by Dr. Graham to lead in prayer. Graham referred to him as "my great friend Castro." This man believes that the God of the Buddhist is the same as our God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Especially significant was what took place at the Boston Crusade in 1964. During that crusade Graham paid a visit to Cardinal Cushing, the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Boston. The meeting was requested by Dr. Graham. This was the first time Graham had met with a Roman Catholic Cardinal. During the conversation the Cardinal said, "Well, I’m a Catholic, but I’m for you. No Catholic can listen to you without becoming a better Catholic. You preach Catholic as well as Protestant doctrine." Dr. Graham said that his preaching was much closer to the theology of the Roman Catholic Church than it was to some of the farther-out Protestants. This kind of fellowship with Catholics would continue throughout the rest of his ministry.
 

5. GRAHAM'S AMAZING DEFENSE OF HIS MINISTRY

In 1958 there appeared a book written by Robert O. Ferm, entitled, Cooperative Evangelism--Is Billy Graham Right or Wrong?. The author strongly defended Graham’s inclusivist methods of cooperative evangelism. By appealing to Scripture and to the example of great evangelists of the past, Ferm tried to prove that Billy Graham was right to cooperate with those who deny the Christian faith. In the space of three short months the book went through four printings which brought the total number of volumes in print to the huge number of 75,000. The book was made available at a low price (75¢ each and 12 for $7.20) and was widely circulated throughout the Protestant clerical community. It was sent to religious colleges and seminaries and to many clergymen free of charge by parties interested in spreading its message. Hundreds if not thousands of copies were mailed out by the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. At the National Association of Evangelicals Convention in Chicago free copies were handed out. The entire student body at Wheaton College were given copies of the book. Bob Jones University students received copies, unasked for, addressed to box numbers on an unpublished list. Dr. John Whitcomb, who formerly taught at Grace Seminary, told me that faculty and students there were flooded with copies of this book. Other examples could be cited.

In view of this, it is interesting that Billy Graham wrote three years later: "I have never made it a point to answer critics, but I do try to answer honest inquiries as to our position. I do not think this work needs defending!" (from a tract entitled Fellowship and Separation by Billy Graham, p.9). The work of answering critics and defending his practice of ecumenical evangelism was left to Ferm.

Ferm’s book is Scripturally refuted by Gary G. Cohen in the book Biblical Separation Defended—A Biblical Critique of Ten New Evangelical Arguments (The Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Co., 1971). Cohen provides an excellent Biblical Critique of Ferm’s arguments.

 

6. REACTION AMONG FUNDAMENTALISTS

What kind of Christian concern did Graham’s fundamental friends exhibit towards him when he began to take a friendly attitude towards liberals and modernists? Did they confront Graham personally? Did they warn him about the consequences of joining hands with the enemies of the cross? Did they pray for him?

The following is written by Dr. John R. Rice and is but one example of how fundamental men pleaded with Graham to adhere to a separated position:

I talked with Dr. Graham again and again about the danger of yoking up with modernism. Again and again he assured me that he had vowed to God he would never have a man on his committee who was not right on the inspiration of the Bible, the deity of Christ, and such matters. I visited Dr. Graham in his own home in Montreat, North Carolina, by his invitation, and we talked earnestly on such matters. Again and again we have talked by long distance telephone sometimes as long as thirty minutes. At his own request, we sent him THE SWORD OF THE LORD air mail, week after week, in his tour around the world. I wrote him in great detail on matters where I thought he was wrong. And all the time I defended him openly and publicly, excusing his mistakes, until he openly declared he had decided to keep company with modernists and put them on his committees and to go under their sponsorship. Then I was compelled, in order to be true to Christ, to come out openly against that compromise.

The issue is not Billy Graham. I have loved him through the years. I have prayed for him daily for many years ... The warmhearted, friendly Cliff Barrows, the beloved Beverly Shea, the dear friend Jerry Beavan, and the assistant Grady Wilson—God knows how I have prayed for them all! I did all that a good man could do privately to help keep Billy Graham for the historic Christian position, and for working with Bible-believing Christians instead of unbelievers [from pp.304-305 of "Cooperative Evangelism" in Earnestly Contending for the Faith by Dr. John R. Rice].

Other fundamental leaders, such as Bob Jones and Charles Woodbridge, also approached Graham personally about the dangers of cooperation with liberal churchmen.

7. WHERE DOES BILLY GRAHAM SEND HIS CONVERTS (THOSE MAKING DECISIONS IN THE   CRUSADES)?

Dr. Oswald J. Smith once said of Billy Graham, "Again and again he urged the converts to get linked up with some Bible-believing church where Christ is preached" (see Ferm, p.17). In actual practice, however, when an evangelist works together with liberal ministers, it becomes very difficult for him to refuse to send his converts into their liberal churches. In fact, the Graham organization believes that if a liberal church or minister is willing to cooperate with a crusade, then they deserve to have the converts enter into the fellowship of their church. Consider Ferm’s comment on this (p.19):

Any minister or church that willingly enters into a cooperative effort, where the Gospel is to be preached without restrictions of any kind, is certainly deserving of having converts who so desire join in the fellowship of that particular church. If later any are led astray, or spiritually starved, the responsibility rests squarely on those churches, not on the evangelist.

In Graham’s newspaper column, My Answer (October 29, 1962), an anxious mother asks the question, "We have been going to a church which leans toward ‘modern theology.’ Our children don’t even know what it means to be ‘saved.’ Should we stay in our own church, or should we join a Bible church where our children will learn about the Bible?" Graham’s answer: "If your children don’t know what it means to be saved, don’t put all the blame on the church you attend. You as a parent have a responsibility to teach your children the things of God...No church, regardless of how ‘orthodox’ can do the whole job of teaching your children the things of God... Let God lead you about the church you are to attend..." (How would you have answered her question?)

When he was asked why Modernists support Billy Graham, one of the leaders of the World Council of Churches said, "We do not agree with Billy Graham’s theology, but we are using him to build our churches" [Christian Beacon, November 22, 1956, p.8].

 

8. WHERE WILL BILLY GRAHAM PREACH AND UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS?

We have already mentioned the statement Graham made before the National Association of Evangelicals on April 3, 1957: "I intend to go anywhere, sponsored by anybody, to preach the Gospel of Christ, if there are no strings attached to my message."

Ferm has said, "Graham’s willingness to cooperate has never influenced him to adjust his preaching to suit any sponsoring groups" (Ferm, Cooperative Evangelism, p.13).

Ferm also speaks of Graham’s "uncompromising determination to preach this gospel message to any and all who will hear him, accepting the cooperation of any and all who will agree that he shall so preach without any restrictions" (Ferm, p.15).

Ferm also makes this statement: "What about compromise? It has been agreed by both his supporters and opponents that Billy Graham has never trimmed or diluted the message of the Bible. His pronouncements on every fundamental doctrine have been unqualified" (p.23).

Does Billy Graham really proclaim the whole message of the Bible? Or are there perhaps some things that Graham refuses to preach? For example, in Acts 20:27 the Apostle Paul reminded the Ephesian elders that he did not shun to declare unto them all the counsel of God (the whole counsel of God). A vital part of the whole counsel of God involves warning believers about false teachers. Read Acts 20:28-31. Paul warned them about the wolves! Does Billy Graham warn people about the wolves? Does he warn them about the wolves in sheep’s clothing who stand behind many of the pulpits in our land? Does he warn them about the wolves who sometimes sit on the platform with him and who are sometimes asked to lead in prayer and even counsel new converts?

What kind of a message did the Lord Jesus give to the false religious leaders of his day? See Matthew chapter 23. Have you ever heard Billy Graham give such a message?

 

9. WHAT DOES THE BIBLE TEACH CONCERNING COOPERATION SOUND IN THE FAITH?

  1. Avoid them (Romans 16:17).
  2. Reject (Titus 3:10).
  3. Receive him not (2 John 10).
  4. From such turn away (2 Tim. 3:5; and compare Rom. 1:16 and 1 Cor. 1:24).
  5. Let him be accursed (Galatians 1:8-9).

For further discussion of these issues see our paper Contemporary Evangelism in Light of God’s Word (20¢).

 

10. WHY I SHOULD NOT ATTEND A BILLY GRAHAM CRUSADE

Note:  The following paragraphs were written many years ago when a Billy Graham Crusade was scheduled to be held in the Hartford, Connecticut area.  It was written to warn believers of three main problems.

In view of the fact that the Southern New England Billy Graham Crusade is scheduled for May 19-26, 1985 in the Hartford Civic Center, it might be good to remind ourselves of some of the problems connected with ecumenical evangelism:

Problem #1
A REFUSAL TO PRACTICE BIBLICAL SEPARATION.

In such crusades there is a yoking together with unbelievers and religious apostates (2 Cor. 6:14-17). The key word is "cooperation." There is the yoking together of believers with unbelievers. Professing believers join hands with liberal churchmen and all sorts and shades of Christ-deniers. The clear line of demarcation between Bible-believing fundamentalism and Bible-denying modernism is terribly blurred. The Apostle Paul put a curse on every man who preaches a different and false gospel (Gal. 1:6-9) but today we enlist such people to help in our crusade and to counsel and follow-up our new converts. The enemies of the cross are treated as friends and fellow-workers, instead of being exposed for the wolves they really are (Acts 20:28-31). Biblical separation is not practiced (2 Cor. 6:14-7:1).

Problem  #2
A POOR CONCEPT OF THE LOCAL ASSEMBLY OF BELIEVERS

There is a naive tendency to regard all churches within "Christendom" as acceptable and to accept all clergymen as brothers and fellow-laborers and to be pleased when people become members of these churches even though they may not be sound in the faith. The Biblical concept of the church is that the local assembly is made up of BELIEVERS--those who honor the Word of God and who have been eternally saved by putting their trust in the Person and work of the crucified and risen Son of God.

Those who advance the cause of ecumenical evangelism are reluctant to be critical of any church and they seem unwilling to expose any false teacher. One begins to wonder if there is such a thing as a false teacher within the organized churches of Christendom. The church at Ephesus could not bear those who were evil and they clearly exposed them (Rev. 2:2). This is certainly not the attitude of the ecumenical evangelists. They do not share Christ’s hatred of false doctrine (Rev. 2:15). They do not share Paul’s abhorrence towards those who teach a false gospel (Gal. 1:8-9). They seem totally ignorant of the fact that the devil, who himself appears as an angel of light, has his own ministers who transform themselves into the ministers of righteousness (2 Cor. 11:14-15). They seem like respectable clergymen, but in reality they are serving the cause of Satan and doing the devil’s work by leading multitudes astray.

A common practice of the ecumenical evangelists is to send new converts back into "the church of their choice." If new believers need anything they need to be protected from church leaders who profess to be "Christian" but who deny the fundamental truths of the Word of God. How can a newborn babe in Christ be helped and stabilized in a liberal church environment? How can the little lambs be ruthlessly thrown to the wolves? This is the most unloving thing that can be done to a new believer.

Instead of being recommended to these churches, they need to be seriously warned about these churches. We need to send converts to the "CHURCH OF GOD’S CHOICE." We need to carefully direct new believers to churches that are Bible-believing, Bible-teaching and Bible-practicing, but how often do you hear the evangelist give this kind of specific direction?

Problem #3
A PROMOTION OF THE "SOULS AT ANY COST" PHILOSOPHY

Though we ought to be willing to sacrifice our very lives for the salvation of the lost, this must never be our supreme motivation. Rather it should be this: "Faithfulness to God and Obedience to His Word at Any Cost." Souls at the cost of disobedience to the written Word of God is far too great a price to pay. The Jesuit philosophy that the end justifies the means is an abomination to the Lord (cf. Rom. 3:8; 6:1-2). The Christian athlete must follow the rule book if he is to be crowned (2 Timothy 2:5). May our evangelism be God-centered, may our gospel be Christ crucified, may our power be God the Holy Spirit, and may the Lord of the harvest be pleased to call out a people for His Name and for His glory.

George Zeller (revised 1999)

"There is a toleration which is treachery. There is a peace which issues in paralysis. There are hours when the church must say NO to those who should ask communion with her, in the doing of her work, upon the basis of compromise. Such standing aloof may produce ostracism and persecution; but it will maintain power and influence. If the Church of God in the cities of today were aloof from the maxims of the age, separated from the materialistic philosophies of the schools, bearing her witness alone to the all-sufficiency of Christ, and the perfection of His salvation, even though persecuted and ostracized and bruised, it would be to her that men would look in the hour of their heartbreak and sorrow and national need. The reason why men do not look to the Church today is that she has destroyed her own influence by compromise."

--Dr. G. Campbell Morgan

"Truth cannot be perpetuated through compromise, and compromise cannot be avoided without separation."

--Dr. John C. Whitcomb


66 posted on 03/20/2016 5:46:34 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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FRANKLIN GRAHAM’S UNSCRIPTURAL ECUMENISM

Republished October 6, 2008 (first published February 26, 1998) (David Cloud, Fundamental Baptist Information Service, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061, 866-295-4143 FREE, fbns@wayoflife.org) -

Franklin Graham is following closely in his famous father’s footsteps, which, sadly, have led further from the Bible with each passing decade. In 1996 Franklin was named the first vice-chairman of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. This was a new position with direct succession to become chairman when Billy Graham became incapacitated. Of course, this has now occurred.

Franklin Graham told the Indianapolis Star that his father’s ecumenical alliance with the Catholic Church and all other denominations “was one of the smartest things his father ever did” (“Keeping it simple, safe keeps Graham on high,” The Indianapolis Star, Thurs., June 3, 1999, p. H2).

He said: “In the early years, up in Boston, the Catholic church got behind my father’s crusade. That was a first. It took back many Protestants. They didn’t know how to handle it. But it set the example. ‘If Billy Graham is willing to work with everybody, then maybe we should too’” (The Indianapolis Star, June 3, 1999).

Franklin Graham’s ecumenical direction is evident from the various forums he frequents, the same ones attended by his father. In 1997, for example, he spoke at the National Religious Broadcasters in January, at Moody Bible Institute’s Founder’s Week in February, and at a Promise Keepers conference in Birmingham, Alabama, in May. That was at a time when one of the directors of Promise Keepers was a Roman Catholic.

Franklin’s 1998 crusade in Adelaide, Australia, left no question about his direction. Present at the media launch for the crusade were Catholic Archbishop Leonard Faulkner and Anglican Archbishop Ian George. The Festival South Australia News said, “The Archbishops agreed that Festival SA with Franklin Graham next January would be the greatest event the churches have seen in this State’s history.” Almost 400 churches registered for Graham’s Christian Life & Witness Course which was conducted in preparation for the crusade. Twenty-three denominations were represented. The churches included 49 Roman Catholic (false grace plus works gospel), 82 Uniting Church (ultra liberal), 30 Churches of Christ (baptismal regeneration), 25 Anglican (mostly liberal), 1 Greek Orthodox (sacramental gospel), and 3 Seventh-day Adventist (Ellen White is a prophetess, death is only sleep, and punishment in hell is not eternal).

These churches, taken as a whole, represent a hodgepodge of apostasy and doctrinal error. God plainly forbids His people to yoke together with such confusion. “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds” (2 John 9-11).

The Uniting Church in Australia is very modernistic and apostate. The Uniting Church in Paddington, Australia, for example, recently placed a 12-foot-square banner over its entrance declaring that the church is a SAFE PLACE for homosexuals, a place they are accepted and can be open “about their sexuality” (Australian Beacon, Feb. 1998, p. 2). The Paddington Uniting Church’s pastor, Rod Pattenden, told the media, “We want to let gays and lesbians know that they are very welcome in this parish.” He said that at least one-third of Paddington’s Eastside Parish is made up of homosexuals.

The Roman Catholic Church is a false “church” with a false gospel (grace plus works, faith plus sacraments), a false authority (the Bible plus Catholic tradition), and a false head (the pope). The New Catholic Catechism says: “The Church affirms that for believers the sacraments of the New Covenant are necessary for salvation” (1129). Our book Evangelicals and Rome reviews Catholic heresies which were reaffirmed by the Vatican II Council and the New Catholic Catechism.

Those who responded to the Gospel invitation at the Franklin Graham crusade were sent to the aforementioned sponsoring churches for “discipleship.” Thus we again have the strange sight of a supposed shepherd happily and willfully giving his sheep into the hands of wolves. This is the most spiritually-doctrinally confused hour which the world has ever seen.

The Vice-Chairman for the Franklin Graham Festival in Lubbock, Texas, April 28-30, 2000, was Paul Key, evangelism director for the Catholic Diocese of Lubbock. At least three of the local leaders for the “festival” are Charismatics. The Chairman was Rick Canup, an elder at Trinity Church, a charismatic congregation which formerly had ties with the Assemblies of God. The pastor of this church, Gary Kirksey, was also on the Executive Committee. Pastor Jackie White of the Charismatic Church on the Rock was another of the Vice-Chairmen (E.L. Bynum, “Franklin Graham Festival,” Plains Baptist Challenger, April 2000, p. 1). Paul Key was a Presbyterian minister for 18 years before converting to Catholicism. He has written a book entitled “95 Reasons for Becoming and Remaining a Catholic.”

Roman Catholics participated in Franklin Graham Festivals in Corpus Christi, Texas, in 2005, and in Halifax, Nova Scotia, in 2004 (“Central Canada 2006 Franklin Graham Festival Background and Pastoral Notes for Catholic Clergy and Workers,” by Luis Melo, Director of Ecumenical and Inter-Religious Affairs, Archdiocese of Saint Boniface, n.d.).

Many Roman Catholics were trained as counsellors for the Franklin Graham Festival in Baltimore, Maryland, July 7-9, 2006. Catholic priest Erik Arnold of the Church of the Crucifixion in Glen Burnie, Maryland, led the team of 225 Catholics who participated in the crusade. He said, “It was a great opportunity for the Christian churches to show their unity in leading people to Christ” (“Catholic Counselors Attend Billy Graham Festival,” The Catholic Review, July 12, 2006). The Graham organization delivered the names of 300 people to the Roman Catholics for “follow up,” and these received a letter from Cardinal William Keller “encouraging them in their faith and inviting them to get involved in the church.” They will be taught, among a multitude of other heresies, that it is acceptable to pray to Mary. In fact, some of the counsellors are from the Cathedral of Mary Our Queen in Baltimore.

Roman Catholics also participated in the Franklin Graham Festival in Winnipeg, Canada, in October 2006. The previous year the Graham team approached the Catholic bishops in Winnipeg soliciting their support and involvement (“Central Canada 2006 Franklin Graham Festival Background and Pastoral Notes for Catholic Clergy and Workers,” by Luis Melo, Director of Ecumenical and Inter-Religious Affairs, Archdiocese of Saint Boniface, n.d.). In response, each archdiocese in central Canada had official representation on the Festival Executive Committee, and various parishes provided workers to be trained as counsellors and to provide follow up. The Catholics were told: “Following in the footsteps of his father, Franklin Graham will present basic Christianity. The Catholic will hear no slighting of the Church’s teaching on Mary or authority, nor of papal or Episcopal prerogative; no word against the Mass/Divine Liturgy or sacraments, nor of Catholic practices or customs” (Ibid.).

In an interview with Katie Couric on NBC television on April 2, 2005, Franklin Graham praised the late Pope John Paul II and claimed that they preach the same gospel. Graham said: “We disagree on a lot of doctrinal issues and I guess those disagreements will always be there. At the same time we did agree on the fundamentals that Jesus Christ is the son of the living God who came to this earth to die for our sins and when he died on that cross and shed his blood he took the sins of the world with him on the cross; and if we confess our sins and repent and by faith receive Christ into our hearts God will forgive us and cleanse us. These are fundamentals of the faith we agreed on and support and we appreciate this man and the stand he has taken on so many of these moral issues.”

We are glad that Franklin believes and preaches the gospel described in this testimony (apart from the “receiving Christ into the heart” part, which is not scriptural), but he seriously misrepresented the Pope’s gospel. The late Pope believed that the doctrine of salvation by grace alone through Christ alone by faith alone is heresy (the anathemas of the Council of Trent against the gospel of grace alone have never been rescinded). He believed that the sacraments are a necessary part of salvation, beginning with baptism, whereby one is born again, continuing in Confirmation, whereby one receives the Holy Spirit. Speaking at the confirmation of 800 young people at Turin, Italy, Sept. 2, 1988, Pope John Paul II said: “Jesus comes close to us; he enters our history precisely by means of these concrete, visible sacramental signs. ... Confirmation is your personal Pentecost. Today you receive the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, who on the day of Pentecost was sent by the risen Lord upon the Apostles. Every baptized person as a believer needs to receive the moment and mystery of Pentecost; it completes and perfects the gift of Baptism” (L’osservatore Romano, N. 38, Sept. 19, 1988, p. 16). Nine days later, speaking in Harare, John Paul II said to the crowd gathered in Borrowdale Park: “You have thus become a new people, reborn in the Sacrament of Baptism, nourished by the Holy Eucharist, living in loving communion with God and with one another with the Successor of Peter and the Catholic Church throughout the world” (Ibid., p. 2).

In an April 5, 2005, appearance on Hannity & Colmes on the Fox News television network, Franklin Graham was asked the following question by Sean Hannity (who is Roman Catholic): “Let me ask you this, what are some of the disagreements — we only have 30 seconds this segment — between, say, Catholicism and evangelical Christians? Or is it just more that you agree on than disagree on?” Graham replied: “Well, there are a lot of doctrinal issues that we disagree on. But the things that we do agree on are the cross, that Jesus Christ was the son of the living God who went to the cross, took our sins, died on that cross, was buried on the third day, according to the scriptures, rose again. And this is the essence. This is what we agree on and we can work together on and can build on.”

It is commendable for Graham to preach the Gospel on television, and I understand that he had limited time (although his time on the show did not end with that segment) and wanted to focus on the Gospel; but that does not excuse the fact that his reply was artful, erroneous, and dangerous. It was artful in that he refused to state any of Rome’s serious doctrinal heresies. It was erroneous because he said the Roman Catholic Church believes in the cross and salvation the same way that “evangelicals” do, which it certainly does not. This erroneous statement would have given Graham’s Roman Catholic listeners a false sense of security in their faith-works-sacraments gospel. Graham’s statement was dangerous because he said that evangelicals and Catholics need to work together and build on their agreements, whereas the Bible commands God’s people to separate from heresy and apostasy (e.g., Rom. 16:17; 2 Tim. 3:5) and an unscriptural unity plays more into the hands of the antichrist than Christ.

Franklin Graham not only praised the late Pope, he attended the coronation of the new one. Speaking on Larry King Live, April 2, 2005, Billy Graham said: “I don’t have the physical strength to go, and I have been invited. I was invited about six or seven months ago by the Vatican ahead of time. And they’ve asked that I come. So I’m asking my daughter, Anne Lotz, to go [to Pope John Paul II’s funeral]. ... And then my son, Franklin, will be going to the enthronement of the new Pope [Benedict XVI].”

More than any other one man, Billy Graham paved the way for the widespread acceptance of a Catholic Pope by Protestants and Baptists. Graham’s groundbreaking ecumenical evangelism, which downplayed doctrine and exalted experiential religious unity, stretches back more than half a century.

Though bolder than his famous father in some respects, Franklin is walking in this same disobedient path in the ecumenical realm.

http://www.wayoflife.org/database/franklin_grahams_unscriptural_ecumenism.html


67 posted on 03/20/2016 5:49:48 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: RaceBannon
Rather than fill up two separate posts with all of that, all you had to say was you disagreed with Graham's outreach to the Roman Catholic church.

As a former Catholic (now an Evangelical Christian), I am all too familiar with the false teachings and un-Biblical traditions of the Roman church. I disagree with them.

But either Graham or his son Franklin never compromised the Gospel to fall in line with those false teachings.

Ravi Zacharias, an acquaintance of mine and the man I admire more than any others I have ever met in my life, spoke to the Mormon church. He did it to bring the true Gospel message to them. Should he be condemned?

Getting to what you originally started here (i.e. political support for Cruz) - I don't think he would have made a bad President. He certainly would be infinitely better than what we had now. But he cannot win the nomination, and if he did, I think Hillary Clinton would have destroyed him in the general election. Only Trump can defeat Hillary.

68 posted on 03/20/2016 7:00:01 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: RaceBannon

Race, I am not being “fooled.” in the least.

I support Ted Cruz.

But the facts about what is happening and why are undeniable.

I wrote a letter to Ted Cruz, and gave him my heart felt advise.

Here it is:

My Letter to ted Cruz
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3410747/posts


69 posted on 03/20/2016 7:13:38 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: detective

It’s hard to estimate numbers. There were definitely some hard-core leftists. They are more serious, handing out literature, one of them even sneaking up when I was talking to someone to hear what I was saying, and then audibly telling his co-worker that I was a Trump supporter. (I was joking around with the guy trying to sell horse-carriage rides.)

The greatest number were probably the ignorant hangers-on who just like excitement and feeling righteous about themselves but with no defensible convictions on anything. Trump having been demonized by the press and the other candidates, they just glommed right onto that as something to be hateful about. It was a hate-Trump fest for the majority.

There definitely were some La Raza types who mostly just take offense that anyone would not want them to march right over the border and suddenly be American citizens. They have a certain arrogance about them.

Some very fashionable people with expensive cameras but without press tags.

There was one group with lots of black-and-white anti-racism signs and a huge banner who set themselves off from the others between Broadway and Central Park West instead of crossing over to be with the others. They were very serious, and it’s a serious subject. They just happen to be wrong about Trump.

The people who were just curious mostly went around the circle intersections by a different route after watching for a while. They didn’t join in with the group.

That probably doesn’t help much.

I now wish I had gone over to 57th and Fifth because it seems that’s where much of the action was.

The cops were many and everywhere and taking no guff from anyone. They had the Trump building at the circle well protected. They weren’t even letting northbound cars coming around the circle turn west at 60th Street, creating a bit of a traffic slowdown. Couldn’t figure out the reason for that. I would’ve thought it was better to keep it all moving. Must have been a reason.


70 posted on 03/20/2016 7:49:36 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: RaceBannon

You are a classless representative of Cruz voters. Lots of good people support Trump. I could easily put up a graphic showing normal people supporting Trump and holy rollling snake handlers supporting cruz. But unlike you, I don’t go out of my way to insult people.


71 posted on 03/20/2016 7:58:04 AM PDT by Darth Gill
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To: RaceBannon

Oh vomit. Ted has bent over alright. Not for the Bible, but for the GOPe. He is full on their boy! A grotesque embarrassment.

He will be the one who keeps the Establishment in place to bring down America.


72 posted on 03/20/2016 8:03:38 AM PDT by dforest (Ted took your money and is laughing all the way to Goldman Sachs)
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To: SkyPilot

you should have read the details, he was agreeing with them, saying they brought the true gospel

Did Zakarias say that in Utah?


73 posted on 03/20/2016 9:55:42 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: RaceBannon
Why don't you people realize that the same people supporting the street thugs who attack Trump supporters, the Mexican cartels and criminals, the thugs who close down highways and block traffic and the corrupt Washington insiders are exactly the same people who are supporting Cruz?

They are not supporting Cruz because they like him or want him to be president. They are supporting him for only one reason. Cruz and his supporters can be used as tools to weaken Donald Trump.

These people support open borders, sanctuary cities, drug cartels, corrupt politicians and violent criminals. They support jihadists, unlimited welfare, moving American jobs overseas and corruption in government.

Whether you realize it or not, when you post your silly pictures you are their stooge. You are helping to weaken Trump.

These evil people have no fear of Romney, Cruz, Kasich, Bush or Rubio. The one they fear is Trump. They will do anything to destroy him.

Aren't you happy to be a tool helping them?

74 posted on 03/21/2016 9:33:16 AM PDT by detective
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To: Jeff Head
Great letter.

Those are my feelings also.

I like Cruz and admire many of things he has stood for in the past.

But now his campaign serves only one purpose.

Cruz is being used as a tool to weaken Trump and those outside the establishment.

Cruz is being used to create a brokered convention and assure a Hillary Clinton victory.

The same people who support Cruz (supposedly because he is a conservative) are now supporting a third party candidate(supposedly because he will be a conservative). These are also the same people calling for a blacklist of anyone who publicly supports Trump.

They have only one purpose. To elect Hillary Clinton.

75 posted on 03/21/2016 9:43:43 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective

who?

you are delusional

none of the soros crowd support cruz

you guys need to stop sniffing the koolaide


76 posted on 03/21/2016 1:02:18 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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