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1 posted on 03/19/2016 5:16:45 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Cruz will repeal 0bamacare. What will Trump do?


2 posted on 03/19/2016 5:25:46 AM PDT by cowboyway ("Give me a beer or two and I'll be fine, at least that's worked every other time....")
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I might have missed this, but why can’t he pay for his own MRI? He says Cigna won’t let him?

True he shouldn’t HAVE to. But are ins co’s actually telling people they can’t take care of themselves?


6 posted on 03/19/2016 5:33:20 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan
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“it suggests the wisdom of the medical savings account approach, where people put money, tax-free, into an IRA account and draw it down to pay for their first few thousand dollars of coverage.”

The author is in denial that a growing number of Americans 1) never intend to work, to earn money to put aside, or 2) are working but don’t have the money to contribute to such plans. Our government for the last seven years has been all about finding funding and freebies for the former.


8 posted on 03/19/2016 5:34:56 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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I can sympathize with the author. I got a shoulder injury in the autumn...I went out for a walk while my leashed dog went for a run.

I feel better about my choices after reading this. I only have Medicare Part A so the injury wasn't covered. The whole system is appalling....proving I could pay for care before getting it, endless delays and billing procedures they had to go through even though the result was I would get bills and they get paid months later. In the OS office, the majority of the staff was billing, and they didn't even generate the bills! The cost of things has spun out of control because the issue doesn't seem to be what things cost but what will the insurance company cover.

I do not sympathize with this author, not at all. This is his shoulder he's talking about. Don't whine about whether "it's covered". If he knows he needs the MRI, he should take the financial hit and get it done. And maybe go to one of those franchise gyms and pay for a highly qualified personal trainer....there are some that are much cheaper than what the insurance company pays for and they're more focused on the individual.

This article is really a testimony to current thinking. Whine about the system but go along with it.

11 posted on 03/19/2016 5:35:35 AM PDT by grania
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...instead, it suggests the wisdom of the medical savings account approach, where people put money, tax-free, into an IRA account and draw it down to pay for their first few thousand dollars of coverage.

MSAs exist now and are available to any person with a high deductible health insurance plan. If your company doesn't offer one then you can set one up on your own.

13 posted on 03/19/2016 5:36:49 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Huh, I have three rotator cuff tears. And I and my surgeon agreed I will treat these tears with therapy. The larger muscles of my upper body support these lil torn muscles. Medicare and Tricare cover all but my chiropractor, who was the one who discovered the tears. Lift weights, FRiends but be wise.


14 posted on 03/19/2016 5:41:18 AM PDT by larryjohnson (FReepersonaltrainer)
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Cruz campaign for that Texas Senate seat was to repeal RobertsCare... SN I C K E R Who to believe??? I think Cruz has the most impressive Senate record.

How many times did Cruz introduce a bill to repeal RobertsCare? Is that why he called McConnel a liar?

15 posted on 03/19/2016 5:41:26 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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Stay healthy. Self-fund. Have a doctor in your extended family or group of friends. Extract your hard earned money from socialist health schemes - oh wait. Be responsible for your own stupidity. Teach your children.


16 posted on 03/19/2016 5:42:37 AM PDT by PGalt
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"Cruz will repeal 0bamacare. What will Trump do?"

Cruz nor Trump nor any other President will do anything about Obamacare EXCEPT sign bills sent to them by Congress.

Cruz right now has more power to repeal Obamacare than he will when he is President and he and every other Republican in congress has done exactly two things about Obamacare.

1. Jack

2. Schitt...

18 posted on 03/19/2016 5:48:32 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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If the author wants to reduce health care costs, he should have dropped his insurance coverage and paid cash for his care.

By his own calculation it looks like he would have saved about $100,000 over the years just by doing it this way.

19 posted on 03/19/2016 5:49:04 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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The real question: Is there a better way to get someone else to pay to my medical care? The best way to approach medical care is quite simple: Contract for services and pay for them yourself. It seems to work for almost everything else in our economy.


21 posted on 03/19/2016 5:55:31 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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By the way, the insurance lobby should take note that this sleazy practice only plays into the hands of Bernie Sanders and others who want a single-payer government system to take over health insurance.

Given the stunts I've seen insurance companies pull, years before Obamacare, public demand for socialized medicine was an inevitable reaction.

I should think that the insurance companies would welcome being, in effect, nationalized. The managers currently in the industry would become government officials. Their employees would become infireable and unaccountable government employees.

22 posted on 03/19/2016 5:55:39 AM PDT by snarkpup (I want a government small enough that my main concern in life doesn't need to be who's running it.)
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Get rid of the lawyers and health care is cheap. Sorry, but you or your precious snowflake might not be worth $4.6 million if a doctor tries to treat you and the outcome isn’t perfect. My toddler and I once got the squirts in a third world country and went to the clinic. We got checked over and he got several extra tests because he was so young. We walked out with a sackful of meds and the total bill was $11. Suing over everything wasn’t known there and health care was affordable. The biggest expense most doctors have here is malpractice insurance.


23 posted on 03/19/2016 5:59:30 AM PDT by eartrumpet
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what a ridiculous article - 8th grader prolly.


26 posted on 03/19/2016 6:10:23 AM PDT by corkoman
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For a number of reasons (some including kids), insure several automobiles. A number of years back, I did a calculation on my deductible amount and determined that I could save over $1,000 per year in premiums if I increased my deductible amount to $1,000. I immediately did so, and it has paid handsome benefits. For one, I carefully review costs of claims. In just one instance, I paid $200 for a new windshield that had been cracked when the insurance claim for the windshield was quoted at over $700 (plus a deductible).

I am now over 65, and am required to have Medicare. Voilà, "free" insurance. This now means triple bills, one for Medicare, one for my Medgap, and one for me. The bills sometimes are pennies - less than the stamp to send it to me. Some procedures that I would be willing to pay for myself are impossible to get. My physician is not allowed to prescribe something that Medicare does not pay for. He loses his ability to bill all other Medicare bills for everyone, if he does.

There are billions to be saved by giving patients more control over their medical bills.

35 posted on 03/19/2016 6:21:29 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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So it's "free" but I can't get it. Wonderful.

Precisely. In that regard it's just like a public education.

38 posted on 03/19/2016 6:36:22 AM PDT by Buttons12
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The big problem with healthcare is its cost, not how to pay for it


39 posted on 03/19/2016 6:36:27 AM PDT by cymbeline
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We could go back to paying with a chicken or a jar of preserves.


72 posted on 03/19/2016 7:14:40 AM PDT by jetson
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I have always appreciated the Army health care process. First, the person goes to an aid station. If they need more help, then they are passed on to the clinic. If they need more care, then they go on to the hospital. If they need more care, then they’re sent to a specialty center.

Obviously, an emergency like a heart attack jumps to a hospital.

In the military, almost everything is solved at the aid station or clinic.

That said, this article echoes what’s been said now for at least a decade. The huge pool of “insurance money” drives up costs because all the providers know it’s there for the taking.


74 posted on 03/19/2016 7:15:48 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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So I finally and reluctantly went to the orthopedic surgeon; he said that I had a rotator cuff tear and I would probably need surgery. Ugh! He scheduled me for an MRI, but the day I was set to go, the hospital called to tell me my insurance company declined to pay for the scans. The insurance company, Cigna, tersely sent me a note: "You will need to complete six weeks of conservative treatment, such as physical therapy and anti-inflammatory medication. Once that has been completed and you have been re-evaluated, we can try to have the MRI re-authorized." Gee, thanks. You guys are the best.

This type of thing; insurance companies not covering surgery for certain types of injuries like rotator cuff injuries without first having undergone PT and less invasive treatments, is nothing new and long pre-dates Obamacare. It even seems to be the first standard of care in most cases as described by American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons, although the insurance company IMO should have paid for a diagnostic MRI.

http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?topic=a00378

Years ago (I think it was around 1999), I worked with a woman who started having severe pain in her shoulder and down her arm. She didn’t have a rotator cuff tear but severe rotator cuff tendonitis that ended up in what is called “Frozen Shoulder Syndrome – very painful) and was caused by repetitive and improper, non-ergonomic use of a computer mouse. Since it was work related, it ended up being a worker’s comp case and although both her personal and the WC ortho’s thought she may need surgery, she had to do PT, anti-inflammatory drugs and get cortisone shots for about two months, and only after that did not improve her condition, was surgery done.

97 posted on 03/19/2016 10:00:54 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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