There Has to Be a Better Way to Pay for Health Care

Townhall.com ^ | March 19, 2016 | Stephen Moore

[cableguymn]

Nope!

We barter.. They also use me for demos.. i have a TON of missing teeth from a work accident so every once in a while I get a free implant..

As to a regular cash customer Yes, they pay a little less than insurance does.

[cowboyway]

If anyone thinks they can just get rid of it (0bamacare) without an alternative, they are smoking some good stuff.

That's a kickass conservative attitude.

/sarc

So I guess your version of kickass conservatism is ready to fold on the 2A, also.

[Kickass Conservative]

Don’t confuse Facts with Attitude my FRiend.

Wish in one hand and spit in the other and see which one fills up first.

Once an Entitlement is given, it can never be taken away. That is why Obamacare should have been nipped in the Bud.

You can trim around the edges like Reagan did in raising the SS Full Benefit Age from 65 to 67, but you cannot just cancel a program that Millions of People take for granted.

Regarding Reagan’s SS Overhaul, you will notice that the Full Benefit Age was extended from 65 to 67, but the early reduced Benefit Age remained at 62. Gee, I wonder why?

Please name just ONE Entitlement that was just Cancelled without any alternate Plan? Guess what, you can’t.

[Kickass Conservative]

>>>So I guess your version of kickass conservatism is ready to fold on the 2A, also<<<

You guess wrong, but nice Straw Man. Apples and Oranges.

The Second Amendment is not an Entitlement, it is a Right.

Unfortunately, People think Obamacare is a Right. That is why we are in such deep doo doo.

[cowboyway]

Don’t confuse Facts with Attitude

Fact: the reason for perpetual and practically unlimited 'entitlements' are because of attitudes like yours.

[cowboyway]

You guess wrong, but nice Straw Man. Apples and Oranges.

No straw man; same concept. If you'll fold on reigning in unconstitutional cradle to grave government you'll fold on the amendments to the constitution.

[Kickass Conservative]

I don’t have an attitude at all. Facts are facts.

Now answer my question. What Entitlements have ever been eliminated without an alternative?

[Kickass Conservative]

Man, you are stretching.

My response to you was crystal clear.

[Kickass Conservative]

By the way, how am I “folding”?

I’m not in Congress, I am simply an observer, same as you.

[dfwgator]

A classic from "The Kids in the Hall".....



They just offered me the job of Chief of Surgery. Apparently, I've logged more hours in surgery than any other man my age. Four thousand hours this year alone. What no one seems to have noticed that it was all with the same patient.

Oh, I want to show you something. You know what this is? Urine. Another man's urine. I ask for it, and they give it to me! I don't know what to do with it! I've got a fridge full of this stuff. I mean, I suppose I could send it out to the lab, but they'd only send back a lot of test results that I couldn't possibly understand.

The only thing I'm actually sorta good at is referrals. You know that thing where doctors send patients to other doctors. Well, I'm the king of referrals. What I do is I call the, uh, the sick person into my office, and I stare for a long time really seriously at this blank sheet of paper. Then I say, "Hmmm. I'd like you to see someone. He's a specialist in this area." (laughs) There are specialists who have their whole career based on my referrals. I am the cornerstone of a medical empire.

(sighs) Well, I really should be going. I've gotta tell the family that the patient didn't make it - hardest part of being a doctor...I think!

[cowboyway]

You should change your screen name. The only thing kickass about your conservatism is getting your ass kicked by the commies in DC.

[Kickass Conservative]

Well, I gave you a couple of chances to answer my question, but you failed again.

My screen name is just fine. No need to get nasty.

If you want to change reality, write a Novel or run for Elected Office.

Apparently this discussion is going nowhere, so you stay off my Lawn and I’ll stay off yours.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Kaslin.

First, the excess of health insurance actually drives up cost. The more insurance for a procedure, the more expensive it is... Second, Obamacare has increased demand for health care and is driving up costs, so insurers appear to be cutting their expenses by denying claims more often.

#1, the premiums shouldn't be on the employer; #2, the obvious way to pay for it is to have the consumer pay for it, and using before-tax dollars; #3, using amended Medical Spending Acc'ts -- making them open-ended instead of expiring at the end of the calendar year -- would be the way to do that; #4, doctor visits could be out of pocket, but billable back to the MSA; #5 but we need coverage for hospitalization, for certain, due to the expense, and thanks to the long period to accumulate, the MSA would be worth more later in life, exactly when we start to spend about 90 percent of our lifetime healthcare dollars.