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Why Israeli Jews are Conservative and American Jews are Leftist
FrontPage Mag ^ | 03/17/2016 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 03/17/2016 9:21:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The Israeli left as a democratic political movement is dead. That piece of bad news was delivered by a recent survey which shows that only 8% of Israeli Jews identify with the left, 55% with the center and 37% with the right.

In the last election, the establishment Labor Party had to dress up as a wolf in Zionist centrist clothing by renaming itself the Zionist Camp (it still lost). The left had to create two other fake centrist parties to stop Netanyahu, but just ended up having to roll them into his center-right coalition.

The Israeli left still controls the usual undemocratic elitist outposts of the Deep State, media, academia, popular culture and the judiciary, but it can no longer even call itself the left and still hope to win. All it can do is undermine the will of the people and sabotage the country out of selfishness and spite.

The situation in Israel stands in sharp contrast to the United States where 49 percent of Jews lean to the left, 29 percent tend to the center and only 19 percent identify as conservative.

It’s a popular and simplistic conclusion on both the left and the right to attribute this split to terrorism. But if Muslim terrorism made people move to the right, New Yorkers would all be Republicans. And until the latest Knife Jihad, the Israeli right’s policies had ended Islamic terrorism as an everyday problem.

The Israeli left’s disastrous peace process with terrorists, which killed more Israelis than the Six Day War, helped discredit it, but it’s far from the whole story. The Israeli left didn’t suddenly implode because of PLO deal. It made the deal with the terrorists because it had been losing elections left and right.

The Israeli left had gone from dominating Israeli politics for thirty years to losing its grip in the seventies. By the eighties, the Israeli left was dying. For the last fifteen years, every Israeli prime minister has come out of the conservative Likud party (even if he didn’t always stay there.)

The rise of the Israeli right was fueled by immigrants. It still is. The Israeli left had set up its Socialist utopia of intertwined labor unions, collective farms, social welfare and political organizations in which your ability to earn a living depended on your political ties to the left. Holocaust survivors were violently assaulted by leftist thugs as soon as they reached the shore if they didn’t belong to the left. Middle Eastern Jewish refugees encountered a bigoted leftist system that viewed them as only slightly better than animals. Russian Jews fleeing the USSR often found an equally hostile welcome waiting for them.

These groups helped topple the left from power. The Holocaust survivors had been fleeing National Socialism. Middle Eastern Jews had fled Arab Socialist dictatorships. Russian Jews had escaped the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Socialism had few positive connotations for them. And the discrimination they encountered from the left as soon as they arrived convinced them to join the right.

The left had always understood that Jewish immigration to Israel posed the biggest threat to its rule. It needed immigrants, but it also hated and feared them. And they learned to hate it back. In the United States, first-generation and even second-generation immigrants make up a much smaller proportion of the American Jewish population than they do in the Israel. And, like their Israeli counterparts, first-generation Jewish immigrants in America from the USSR or Syria tend to be politically conservative.

That’s part of the story. But it’s also not the whole story. To see the rest of it, we have to look at American Jews. You can predict the politics of American Jews based on their religiosity.

60 percent of Jews who attend weekly religious services disapprove of Obama. Only 34 percent approve. Among those who don’t attend religious services, approval stands at 58 percent to 38 percent. In Israel, the left finds its greatest support among secular Jews and the right hits its best numbers among religious Jews. left-wing identification in America is 50% higher among Jews of no religion. The number of American Jews of no religion has tripled since 2001. Meanwhile the Israeli secular population is declining.

Twice as many Israeli Jews as American Jews believe in G-d. What do American Jews who don’t believe in G-d believe in? Usually the answer is Obama. Or in Israel, a fantasy of peace with Islamic terrorists.

Secularism does not in and of itself translate into leftist politics. Even secular Israelis are more likely to identify with the right than with the left (though by a much smaller margin). But secularism does create a vacuum that the left is quite adept at filling with its cults of personality, political messianism, pseudoscientific doomsdays and apocalyptic struggles for the future of mankind.

The American Jewish left is the product of a spiritual vacuum. It is a decadent movement of the directionless, of the neurotically unhappy needing validation and narcissists clamoring for attention. It has no real challenges to grapple with and so it immerses itself in borrowed sufferings and ennobles itself by lecturing others. There is nothing Jewish about the Jewish left. That is the whole point.

American and Israeli Jews exist in fundamentally different political, economic and religious contexts.

Both American and Israeli Jews have an immigrant narrative, but their narratives are very different. The Israeli immigrant narrative began with a pioneer story of settlers clearing land for settlements and fighting off savages. This resembles the American pioneer narrative, but has little in common with an American Jewish narrative of modern urban immigration. While American Jews also went west, built cabins, farmed, mined and were scalped, their narratives were discarded for social justice reasons.

To many American Jews, land is not finite and there is no reason to fight anyone over it. But tell that to a Jewish farmer or herder on a plot of land overlooking a terrorist encampment. His life has less in common with New York than with a Texas outpost before a Comanche Moon or Afghanistan.

The next phase of the immigrant narrative ended very differently in America and Israel. In America, the left won its struggle with poor religious Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe whose descendants became secular leftists raised to think of the Democratic Party as their religion. In Israel, the left lost its struggle with poor religious Jewish immigrants from the Middle East despite using every dirty trick.

The fall of the left in Israel reflects a country where the struggle between religion and the left, between immigrants and political elites, ended with a fundamentally different outcome than it did in America.

Generations of American Jews have been indoctrinated to think of left-wing ideas as elementally Jewish. They are unaware of any conflict between their ideas and their origins. But to many Israeli Jews, left-wing agendas are antithetical to Jewish values. Middle Eastern Jewish refugees and Soviet Jews had to defy the left to remain Jewish.

Finally in the economic context, Israel has opened up economic opportunities by moving away from the left to a more open economy. Americans have never lived under Socialism and so are more willing to believe the empty promises than people who have suffered under the real thing.

American Jews define themselves by a progressive narrative of struggling for equality. In Israel, the struggle for equality for a majority of Jews was a struggle against the left. The left has taught many American Jews to view religious devotion and nationalism as evils. In Israel, they are virtues.

All of these combined created very different cultural contexts. American and Israeli Jews both felt vulnerable, but the former responded to it by becoming less Jewish and the latter by becoming more Jewish. Israeli Jews have found strength in becoming more Jewish. American Jews have only found neurosis and spiritual emptiness in becoming more leftist.

And so the left lost in Israel, but still rules over American Jews.


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1 posted on 03/17/2016 9:21:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the basic premise of this article is misleading. I believe Israeli Jews are considered more conservative than their American counterparts because Israel as a whole has historically been a radically leftist country compared to the U.S.


2 posted on 03/17/2016 9:25:00 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Delusion and lots of agnostic Jews.
Orthodox ones are mostly conservative.


3 posted on 03/17/2016 9:25:52 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why Israeli Jews are Conservative and American Jews are Leftist

Because Israeli Jews have been mugged by reality.

4 posted on 03/17/2016 9:26:38 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: SeekAndFind

American jews are largely diaspora from 19’th century Europe and brought their socialist views, which were in vogue at the time, with them. Isreali jews are largely diaspora from 20’th century Europe that were nearly wiped out under the fist of socialism.


5 posted on 03/17/2016 9:27:49 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SeekAndFind

Same reason whites in high percentage black areas tend to be more conservative and not emulate black culture as much as whites in homogeneous areas

The alternative is a clear and present threat

Not a noble naive stab at self righteousness borne at no cost

Funny about Israel though...it was founded largely by Ashkenazi socialists who brought their crap onto the existing Sephardic and Oriental Jews already there


6 posted on 03/17/2016 9:31:59 AM PDT by wardaddy (Many Cruzbots here are on a seriously dark road....lets pray they can find their way back to sanity)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most Jews promote multiculturalism and open borders in white countries and the opposite in Israel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ


7 posted on 03/17/2016 9:35:32 AM PDT by Ultima
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To: SpaceBar

“American jews are largely diaspora from 19’th century Europe and brought their socialist views, which were in vogue at the time, with them. Isreali jews are largely diaspora from 20’th century Europe that were nearly wiped out under the fist of socialism.”

Correct.

It also has to do with the simple fact of location of immigration. By happenstance, American Jews moved to the big cities of the NE when they came. They accordingly vote like others in the NE big cities.

I would note that, as a group, American Jewish people are demographically trending conservative as they get to more younger. This is like all immigrant groups, but affirmative action, in particular is a galling issue to young Jews.


8 posted on 03/17/2016 9:35:43 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not all Israeli Jews are conservative...but thankfully, enough are for them to be able to continue to defend themselves.

And why?

Because they have to live with the truth staring them square in the face every day.

They are surrounded by people who want to annihilate them...on all sides. 24 hours a day. 7 Days a week, 365 day a year.

American leftists Jews live detached from the truth and the real world...pretty much like all libtards.

So they live a lie and try and spread those lies. And in as much as they can rech people who do not have the truth staring them in the face every single day, they are successful in spreading them to the ignorant.

Of course, there is a healthy does of enemies who do not care about the truth...who want to destroy Israeli...and American for that matter. They buy into the lie all the time because that is their mission.

Anyhow...one day, if those liberals ever have to face up to the truth...say from a crazed Syrian refugee who believes in Sharia Law and believe he has the right to decapitate them if they do not believe it...they may wake up.

More likely, the person facing the truth directly will simply die...and then some of their relatives may wake up.

But such is the state of affairs.


9 posted on 03/17/2016 9:37:09 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is simple - Israeli Jews have been shot at blown up and seen freinds and family die because of leftist utopian thinking and actions. American Jews watch TV.


10 posted on 03/17/2016 9:37:16 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Israel was conceived by its founders to be a Socialist Utopia. There's a 1961 film starring Topol (Tevye in the film version of Fiddler on the Roof) called "Sallah Shabati" that depicts the time well.
11 posted on 03/17/2016 9:37:50 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinion)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why Israeli Jews are Conservative and American Jews are Leftist

Because Israeli Jews have to deal with a dangerous reality and American Jews live in a protected, safe environment that lets them indulge in liberal fantasy. Liberalism can only thrive in the safe, stable environments that strength and courage build, and liberalism's only goal is to erode that strength and courage.
12 posted on 03/17/2016 9:39:10 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SeekAndFind

Being completely surrounded by people who greatly outnumber you, whose sole ambition in life is to kill you has a way of getting you to focus on reality, and looking to and hoping in God. On the other hand, living at ease, in comfort, with fullness of bread and many desires at your finger tips can nurture opposite tendencies.


13 posted on 03/17/2016 9:47:03 AM PDT by inpajamas (Texas Akbar!!!!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Simple, because conservatism in Israel does not have the same meaning as it does here. In Israel, to be a conservative is to be what Americans call liberal, they support socialist doctrines. Just look at Israel’s cradle to grave welfare programs. Israel is also a nation where the land belongs to the state and the land is then leased for a period of 49 years, then that lease must be renewed in the 5oth year according to their twisted interpretation of the Biblical Jubilee.


14 posted on 03/17/2016 9:50:08 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: SeekAndFind

American Jews, tend to be “Cultural Jews”, which means “Atheist.” They have no ties to the religion.


15 posted on 03/17/2016 9:51:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m an American Jew and I feel like a total misfit. I actually checked out a local temple a number of years ago and considered joining but I was cornered after the service by a temple official (not the Rabbi) who asked me if I was an Obama supporter. Well of course I’m not, and I very politely said so. This person told me I would never be accepted in the temple, which was fine because once they treated me that way I was never going back again anyway. But that’s how you’re treated when you are an American Jew who doesn’t conform with most of the pack.

I have members of my own family who stopped talking to me when I didn’t support Obama, but some of them wanted to “patch things up” when they needed a loan. I told them to get lost. Being a conservative American Jew means I’m not going to be included in most religious and family occasions, but I don’t want to be around those people anyway. I’d rather be alone for the right reasons. And to the people I’m speaking of, their God is their own selfish liberalism which means they can’t even get through the First Commandment without sin. Sorry for the long post that probably seems like a rant (it’s not) but it can be frustrating sometimes.


16 posted on 03/17/2016 9:52:06 AM PDT by RightInJersey
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow..!!


17 posted on 03/17/2016 10:11:21 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: SeekAndFind
Can American Jews even be called Jews?

Do they actually practice their religion, or are they in fact "Cultural Jews", who are often agnostic, or in Bernie Sanders case, athiests?
18 posted on 03/17/2016 10:11:59 AM PDT by indthkr
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To: SeekAndFind

The explanations in reply to this post make clear that people on freerepublic, Jew and non-Jew, understand. Here’s a story that illustrates the point: I was in Israel a few months ago and was explaining to a friend who lives there about the insanity going on on American college campuses. I described (and showed her a video of) the screaming Yalie. The woman laughed, and said “you people need a war on your borders.”

The sad part is that we HAVE a war on our borders (and inside our borders). But most Americans don’t know that yet.


19 posted on 03/17/2016 10:20:25 AM PDT by JOHN ADAMS
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To: Alberta's Child

You are correct. Israeli Jews are not conservative by American standards. They just have a physical safety situation that mitigates insanity a little. Israeli colleges are as filled with kooks as US ones.


20 posted on 03/17/2016 10:25:15 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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