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GOP Field Must Use 2016 To Force Conservative Primary Reform
Breitbart ^ | December 14, 2015 | Curly Haugland

Posted on 03/16/2016 8:02:24 AM PDT by jjotto

As we approach the 2016 Presidential Election members of the Republican Party find ourselves in the middle of what will certainly be the most unique, yet pivotal, nomination process in the entire history of the party.

With an unprecedented field of uniquely qualified candidates and an equally unprecedented number of wealthy individuals willing to spend hundreds of millions of dollars in the nomination process, the Republican political industry is fully mobilized in the most lucrative Presidential nomination chase in history.

Given these circumstances, now is the time to study the nomination process, especially the Rules of the Republican Party...

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A lengthy history of how political parties and primaries got to be where they are. A very worthy read for those interested in an accurate background to today's politics.

1 posted on 03/16/2016 8:02:24 AM PDT by jjotto
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What is needed is to get rid of the unbound delegates. Get rid of idiotic caucuses and require all states follow the same processes in allocation of delegates. Also we should move more primaries earlier. Waiting till June is way too late the way election cycles run with 24x7 media.


2 posted on 03/16/2016 8:07:21 AM PDT by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: jjotto

The first thing they need to do is diminish the influence of reliable democrat strongholds in the early shaping of the field. They should reward the states that are reliably republican in presidential contests with being the first to award their delegates. They also need to limit the ability of democrats to influence the selection of the republican nominee.


3 posted on 03/16/2016 8:07:41 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: jjotto

This “Curly” is dumber than “Curly” of the Three Stooges.

He wants rule changes to prevent Trump from winning.

He believes voters do not chose nominee.

I read another story about this hack earlier this morning.


4 posted on 03/16/2016 8:09:19 AM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: jjotto
The GOPe will definitely change it. Jeb! was supposed to win and they can't have something like this happen again.

This gives a clue at the direction they're going
The media has created the perception that the voters choose the nomination. That's the conflict here," Curly Haugland, an unbound GOP delegate from North Dakota, told CNBC's "Squawk Box" on Wednesday. He even questioned why primaries and caucuses are held.
5 posted on 03/16/2016 8:09:27 AM PDT by LostPassword
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To: jjotto

Hah. As if.


6 posted on 03/16/2016 8:09:46 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Maelstorm

It allows for way too many damned debates

And they always suck for our side but then throw in how detestable FOX acted this year and it was excruciating


7 posted on 03/16/2016 8:09:54 AM PDT by wardaddy (Many Cruzbots here are on a seriously dark road....lets pray they can find their way back to sanity)
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To: jjotto

After their Trump experience I expect the GOPe to try and mimic the Democrats’ superdelegate rules.

That really WILL land them on the ash heap of history.


8 posted on 03/16/2016 8:10:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Maelstorm

Get rid of open primaries!


9 posted on 03/16/2016 8:10:41 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: tennmountainman

Curly is quite accurate as far as he goes. His glaring error is ignoring the original intent of the Constitution regarding state sovereignty, which applies when political parties use state law to conduct primaries.


10 posted on 03/16/2016 8:18:33 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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The Republican primary system is well thought out and working as intended.

I see no reasons for major change.

If the Republican base wants to avoid a avoid a brokered convention where the party elite get to push a guy like Ryan, Romney, or Jeb off on the American people they can do the same thing I am going to do if it looks like that may be the outcome.

I'm going to vote for the primary candidate that has the best chance to get over 50% and win the nomination outright to avoid a brokered convention.

Even if that candidate is not my first choice.

Even if that would mean voting for Donald Trump instead of Ted Cruz

The stakes are just too high in this election to allow Mitch McConnell and the ossified party establishment to coronate a candidate destined to lose to Hillary Clinton so Mitch McConnell and his establishment cronies can retain power in the Senate.

11 posted on 03/16/2016 8:20:04 AM PDT by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Millera)
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The very word “reform” should terrify any of you.

Every time the parties try to “reform” the process, they make it worse for the common people to have a voice.

Now they are upset cause Trump is getting more votes than anyone. Who wants to guess what the “reform” would be?


12 posted on 03/16/2016 8:23:22 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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this dope “must” be living in some dream world. How does he think the rules got this way? Not by listening to “conservatives” tell the party what it “must” do.


13 posted on 03/16/2016 8:23:45 AM PDT by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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Personally I agree, we should update the primary process. First they should be closed primaries, if you are not registered you don’t vote. Second limit early voting to one week before, to allow developing events to effect the outcome. Shortening the cycle wouldn’t be a bad idea, nor limiting the debates. You could say for two candidates you have three debates, and for every added candidate you add a debate. So if you have five candidates, you have six debates, with an option for a seventh. The order of the states is randomized, or all nominating contests are broken up into four or five groups and each groups primaries or cucaus is split over two or three weeks. You then move onto another group, and with these groups being set along geographic lines, you randomly choose which group goes first. You require photo ID to vote. Just my opinion for how the process should be.


14 posted on 03/16/2016 8:30:50 AM PDT by PA-LU Student (Breathe Donald..... I know it's hard)
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I am of the opinion that the GOP needs to go to closed primaries. Conservative candidates tend to do better in closed primaries. No caucuses.

During the convention, Delegates during the first round of voting are bound to their candidate. If no one gets the majority, go to second round

Alternatively, the second round could be conducted as follows: Delegates are bound and starting with the candidate that has the fewest delegates, have their delegates unbound and then they vote. Based on their vote, they then bind themselves to their “new” candidate. They remain bound to that candidate unless and until subsequent rounds unbind the new candidate. If no winner yet, do the same with the next fewest delegates and so on until a majority is reached. Basically bubble up from the bottom candidates.

In essence, eliminate the lowest tier of candidates / delegates by unbinding their delegates and letting them declare their support for another candidate.


15 posted on 03/16/2016 8:34:13 AM PDT by taxcontrol ( The GOPe treats the conservative base like slaves by taking their votes and refuses to pay)
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He has some good points. He had me going until this:

“Progressives within the Republican Party (yes, we have them too) have been trying to emulate their Democratic mentors for many years with a steady, persistent push to make primary elections the final determinant of the Republican nominee.”

Simply false. The Democrats do not choose their candidate by the primary elections. They have so many superdelegates that the primaries are mostly for show, as we have seen with the Hillary vs Sanders contest.

I agree with him, though, that having people other than Republicans selecting the party nominee, is stupid.

We should certainly do away with “open” primaries.


16 posted on 03/16/2016 8:35:26 AM PDT by marktwain
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I believe that this article is correct. The Democrats, in addition to their efforts to “bind” delegates have also worked for open primaries, same day registration, absentee ballots, motor voter schemes, and outright voter fraud. All of this has been done to overwhelm the upright citizens of the country, who tend to be Republicans, with the masses who can be bought and delivered to the polls. Of course, the Democrats have built in a “get out of jail fee” card into their own convention rules with their 400 superdelegates who are the party and union bosses and the hard core lefties.

The Republican organizing rules have, therefore, been designed to resist the trend of left wing populism and medial influence over our politics. Unfortunately, the Republican Party, especially at the national level has become corrupted and has operated without regard for the rank and file conservative voters. They have brought this dilemma upon themselves and they are going to pay a price.


17 posted on 03/16/2016 8:36:35 AM PDT by centurion316
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Curly is an unbound delegate for North or South Dakota.

Unbound is the key word.


18 posted on 03/16/2016 8:44:26 AM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: centurion316

Well stated.

Much of the primary “reforms” over the past 40 years have been designed to give the media cartel control of the Republican nomination process.

Trump is the result of the media cartel power being fractured and dispersed by new media, social media, and the massive trading of credibility for political power over the last 22 years.


19 posted on 03/16/2016 8:59:05 AM PDT by marktwain
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