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Anti-Trump Republicans Come to Terms With Cruz Nomination
ABC News ^ | March 10, 2016 | steve peoples and mary clare jalonick, Associated Press

Posted on 03/10/2016 12:42:46 AM PST by Innovative

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To: jjotto

How does the GOP-E take control if there are a combined 1900 Trump and Cruz delegates?

Why are you asking me? I said nothing about the party bosses taking over; the poster I responded to did...

I simply noted the preponderance of individuals on this site who think there’s a difference between a ‘brokered’ andd ‘contested’ convention, as if one is ok and the other a huge no no...


61 posted on 03/10/2016 3:57:57 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: jpsb

Cruz is a complete sellout. Hiring Neil Bush..CFR..the emperor has no clothes

Cruz has zero appeal beyond the conservative base..zero. Hillary will crush him and don’t show me any stupid meaningless polls right now.

He is creepy


62 posted on 03/10/2016 4:00:15 AM PST by ground_fog
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To: ground_fog

Hillary will crush him and don’t show me any stupid meaningless polls right now.

I said the other day that Cruz would not move the EV meter one iota, arriving at the 2012 332-206 total; I now revise that, as he may lose North Carolina as well, so...

We’re looking at 347-191; pretty stiff beating...


63 posted on 03/10/2016 4:05:11 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade

A contested convention has no candidate with a pledged majority. If that’s what the process yields, there’s no alternative. In 1976, for example, uncommitteds decided it without need for ‘brokering’.

A brokered convention is actually an open convention. There are no longer any brokers who control blocs of delegates. Delegates are almost all autonomous, having been elected by folks back home and owing party bosses nothing.


64 posted on 03/10/2016 4:09:48 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: IrishBrigade

And that post will be wrong.


65 posted on 03/10/2016 4:17:36 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ground_fog
Cruz did not hire Neil Bush, the Bush family assigned Neil the job of helping Cruz stop Trump. Cruz is and always has been a Bushie. Cruzs' job was to split the conservative vote clearing a path for Jeb, no one expected a Trump.

However all the masks are coming off and it is a plain as day the Ted Cruz is as GOPe as any Bush.

Now it is a test of raw political power. The pretenting to be a princibled conservative game is over. The do anything and everything to stop Trump is the name of the game now.

66 posted on 03/10/2016 4:19:05 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: jjotto

A brokered convention is actually an open convention. There are no longer any brokers...

You’ve completely contradicted yourself...

In 1976, for example, uncommitteds decided it without need for ‘brokering’.

You could just as easily say they decided it without ‘contesting’ as Ford won on the first ballot, and there was no floor fight...as to whether there were any back room bartering, who knows...


67 posted on 03/10/2016 4:21:58 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade

You can assign your own private meanings to all the words you want. Others will not necessarily go along.


68 posted on 03/10/2016 4:24:32 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

You can assign your own private meanings to all the words you want.

My ‘private meanings’ to words are all contained within any Standard English dictionary, and are all easily researched..

Now once more...how is a ‘brokered’ convention one in which there are no ‘brokers’...


69 posted on 03/10/2016 4:28:12 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Innovative

It is their last route to a crooked convention.

When you look ar Cruz’s accomplishmentsmin the Senate, they are right up there with Hitlery’s...a stepping stone to the Presidency.

Where have we seen that before?


70 posted on 03/10/2016 4:28:33 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Remember...after the primaries, we better still be on the same team!)
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To: dforest

A few quotes from Mark Twain about Congress might be in order:

“..I never can think of Judas Iscariot without losing my temper. To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature, Congressman.”
- “Foster’s Case,” New York Tribune, 10 March 1873

“It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress.”
- Pudd’nhead Wilson’s New Calendar

“Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.”
- Mark Twain, a Biography


71 posted on 03/10/2016 4:44:47 AM PST by TheConservativeBanker
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To: lucky american

I don’t know if you’ve noticed but Trump has gotten millions of dollars worth of “free press”.”

It’s a good point.

“And he is supposedly the front runner.”

That’s silly spin. He IS the front runner.

“So yes, the media has chosen our next candidate again and he will lose to Hillary.”

I don’t think so. And the poll numbers (state by state) support Trump over Cruz.

And I’m not anti-Cruz.


72 posted on 03/10/2016 4:49:54 AM PST by JPJones
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To: IrishBrigade

” I now revise that, as he may lose North Carolina as well, so...”

?

Cruz is still ahead of Hillary in NC (RCP)....

But now trails in OH.


73 posted on 03/10/2016 4:53:47 AM PST by JPJones
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To: 9YearLurker

Ding Ding Ding !!!! We have a winner. That is exactly what they’re going to do. Romney already filed his papers. I’m sure Mitt will find a place for Cruz in one of his departments as a payoff. No VP, thats for Ryan.


74 posted on 03/10/2016 4:58:13 AM PST by stratboy
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To: ground_fog

Creepy Cruz may be to some, but he knows well the GOPe will always be his enemy.

By allowing Bush and others to snuggle up, Cruz is playing the keep your enemies closer card.

Cruz knows well, the GOPe will not back him if comes down to the convention.

So what’s Cruz doing about it?

Cruz is working to win 1237 delegates at the ballot box, period. That’s the only way he becomes the nominee.

If Cruz can gain support from his enemies towards that goal, why the heck not?


75 posted on 03/10/2016 5:01:34 AM PST by reviled downesdad (Some of the blind will never believe the Truth.)
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To: Innovative

So, are we to believe the GOPe is becoming the GOP E?


76 posted on 03/10/2016 5:03:43 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: lucky american

Not true, we stated our reasons for not liking him and his lack of character. People, such as yourself, choose not to hear that and prefer to live with the meme that he is perfect and that anyone who says anything bad about Cruz is blasphemous.


77 posted on 03/10/2016 5:05:00 AM PST by stratboy
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To: Innovative

The GOP will never again see one of theirs elected President if it ain’t Trump nominated this year.

How the media and the establishment cannot recognize this is an impossibility.

These days they only care that Trump is boxed out. Nothing else matters.


78 posted on 03/10/2016 5:06:21 AM PST by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents.)
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To: Innovative

Cruz is being played. It’s all about getting to a contested convention. And once there, does Cruz really think they’ll pick him? If he does, I have a bridge up for sale he might be interested in.


79 posted on 03/10/2016 5:07:20 AM PST by Magnatron
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To: reviled downesdad

But Cruz isn’t going to get to 1237. He’s just going to keep Trump from that—and then the GOPe will swoop down and put their own candidate in.

Cruz’s blind ambition is screwing the country.


80 posted on 03/10/2016 5:07:50 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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