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To: Right-wing Librarian

The better way to understand this current situation is tounderstand the divide in Conservatism between the Dogmatics vrs the Realists.

This is an old divide in Conservatism. The Dogmatist care nothing about political realities, only the purity of the dogma matters to them. The Realist understands you have to be able to advance the political ball down the field to achieve the goals of the dogma.

Reagan, who was a realist, wrote about it.

By Ronald Reagan in his autobiography An American Life

“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it. “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything. I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’ If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.


6 posted on 03/09/2016 12:24:20 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: MNJohnnie

Bump.


8 posted on 03/09/2016 12:26:54 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: MNJohnnie
I don't disagree at all with what you wrote about the Dogmatists v. Realists. But it actually reads much more like an eloquent retort to those who levy blanket accusations against "RINOs" and the "GOP-E" that it does as support for Trump.

Honestly, what really turns me off from Trump is what I see as political nihilism towards just about everyone who isn't Trump. People saying we'd be better off getting rid of the Republican Senators because they're really no better than the Democrat's who'd replace them, etc..

So invoking Realism v. Dogmatism in defense of that mindset seems odd to me.

39 posted on 03/09/2016 1:41:17 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: MNJohnnie

The better way to understand this current situation is tounderstand the divide in Conservatism between the Dogmatics vrs the Realists.

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I remember an argument I had with some Freepers a few weeks back when the whole PP meme was in full swing.

They told me that they would refuse to accept and and fight against any law restricting abortion except for a complete ban.

I called them sick freaks for sacrificing unborn lives for the sake of their dogma.

Things went downhill from there.


54 posted on 03/09/2016 2:38:50 PM PST by Luircin (Supervillians for Trump: We're sick of being the lesser evil!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Sounds like Trump negotiating a deal. And he’s dealt with unions too.


77 posted on 03/09/2016 4:39:40 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: MNJohnnie

Excellent post.


80 posted on 03/09/2016 4:56:04 PM PST by Gator113 (~~Go Trump Go~~ Just livin' life my way. Don't worry, everything is gonna be alright.)
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To: MNJohnnie
The Dogmatist care nothing about political realities, only the purity of the dogma matters to them.

What does reality look like from 778 Park Avenue?

87 posted on 03/10/2016 5:04:23 AM PST by Stentor
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