Apple is openly defying US security orders, but in China it takes a very different approach

Daily Mail ^

[Swordmaker]

Apple possibly employs a double standard by allowing only China access to the backdoor key. In the case of every other country they said they won't, but have avoided making that assurance in the case of China. It opens up the intriguing possibility that China is able to use Apple devices to quietly spy on their own people and other countries. Maybe Apple has gained market access with devious means?

Performing 'security checks' does not mean they have a back door access. It means checking to see if there IS a way in that could compromise security. There IS no "backdoor key."

[Swordmaker]

I’m just saying, we should know if Apple gave the golden key to China.

There is no "golden key."

[Swordmaker]

Apple thinks they should sell in China. China won’t go for it.

Apple is selling in China. China insisted that Apple customers in China data had to be stored on servers inside China's borders on Servers provided by Chinese carriers. Apple had to agree. However, China had to agree that the data was permitted to be encrypted by Apple's customers using their own passcodes before being loaded onto those servers. China's government agreed. China's news system made a stink in January about this, so Apple agreed that China could "security check" that the servers were "secure" and that the connections from the Apple devices were also secure.

[Swordmaker]

Swordmaker is Steve Jobs. He was cloned before the original passed on.
He just does not have the money. Darn that Steve Jobs!

Damn. I hadn't noticed I didn't have the money.

[SteveH]

Is that anything like “do not cross the streams”?

:-)

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

That’s because China plays hardball like only communists can. With their own people it’s, “Do what you’re told or you’ll be taken out back and shot.” With Apple it’s, “Do it or you’ll never do business in this country again.”

[going hot]

Fibs can ask the Chinese for use of their apple provided key.

[DUMBGRUNT]

Is that anything like “do not cross the streams”?

Yes, if your are engaged with the Stay Puft guy!

Here it may be more like bringing a fork to a knife fight?

"That's not a knife".

[SteveH]

Hmmph, well maybe that all just depends on the definition of “engaged with”

*cough*

[Scutter]

Apple is selling in China. China insisted that Apple customers in China data had to be stored on servers inside China's borders on Servers provided by Chinese carriers. Apple had to agree. However, China had to agree that the data was permitted to be encrypted by Apple's customers using their own passcodes before being loaded onto those servers. China's government agreed. China's news system made a stink in January about this, so Apple agreed that China could "security check" that the servers were "secure" and that the connections from the Apple devices were also secure.

What SwordMaker says here is correct. Another example of how strict China is on these matters: If a US company wants to operate a data center in China, they have to go through a Chinese shell company who (on paper) owns the facilities.

It really chaps my behind to see China complaining about Trump imposing any sort of restrictions on trade with them when they have these trade restrictions for goods and services coming into China. Total hypocrites, and we are the dumb ones for letting them play us this way.

[DUMBGRUNT]

Oh my!
I walked right into that one!!!

“Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?”

[SteveH]

Eewww gross!

“THAT’s a KNIFE...!”

lol