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Canada’s palliative care so bad that patients may opt for euthanasia, experts warn
LifeSiteNews ^ | 2/9/16 | Lianne Laurence

Posted on 02/10/2016 9:43:37 AM PST by wagglebee

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Ethicist Somerville noted that in the culture and the courts, "the exercise of autonomy has been equated with human dignity." A loss of autonomy is therefore a loss of dignity.

But the other concept of dignity is that "human dignity is intrinsic to being human, and as long as you're human, you have dignity, and you must be respected in the way that all humans need to be respected."

The danger of adopting the former concept of dignity, Somerville said, is that anyone who is seen as not having dignity "can be disposed of."

And this is nothing more than a death panel by a different name.

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3 posted on 02/10/2016 9:44:28 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 02/10/2016 9:46:00 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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But you see, they DO WANT the elderly be forced (er, consulted) into choosing death! They just can’t say that in public.

Yet.


5 posted on 02/10/2016 9:46:27 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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The quicker the old white guys are gone, the better for the new moslem nation.


6 posted on 02/10/2016 9:48:08 AM PST by x_plus_one (Obama say, 'no worries, Islam is peace. But the weather is gonna getcha!')
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Canada kills old people. Don’t let anyone tell you differently. They don’t have death panels, per se, they simply deny and delay care until they get the desired outcome.

They are barbarians. I know this will come as a surprise to many Canadians, who generally are proud of their Healthcare system. I tell them “wait until you get old”

It may vary here and there by province, but the truth is there for Canadians to deny. It’s still the truth. I know this to be true, unfortunately.


7 posted on 02/10/2016 9:50:56 AM PST by RFEngineer
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Benton Fraser and Inspector Meg Thatcher need to get on the case.


8 posted on 02/10/2016 9:56:00 AM PST by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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I've known quite a few wealthy Canadians that routinely visit the US or go overseas for medical care, they would rather pay than wait and risk the consequences.
9 posted on 02/10/2016 9:57:13 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Leftism is essentially atheistic, because it has to be. Thus leftists see funerals as opportunities for political rallies, since they imagine no life after death. To them, the dead are nothing—ashes.

That attitude translates to those nearing death. They are seen as just “taking space and resources”, since they will no longer contribute to society. Or really, to leftism. This is why, to leftists, people are expendable waste.

In turn, this translates as contempt for the living and unborn. Leftists respect no one. They are ultimately self centered and vain. But their vanity is its own punishment.

They despise God, but they try to carve out a niche to hide in, away from God. As such, they try to create their own Hell - a place removed from God.


10 posted on 02/10/2016 9:59:03 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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This is how it is when your country nationalizes health care. All of the most private, intimate details of your personal care decisions become a political football, played out in the press and in government hearings.


11 posted on 02/10/2016 10:01:33 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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More than a decade ago, my aunt was in a nursing home, doing fairly well despite a stroke on her dominant right side. The home picked up her food tray after 30 min. and documented that she rejected food.

It just took her longer than 30 min. to eat with her left hand. She was losing weight. A relative asked for a feeder to help her eat within the 30 min. Unfortunately the person provided for feeding assistance was sent by a hospice. Auntie unwittingly signed the papers.

Soon after, she died painfully of a heart attack. She begged for medical care, which was denied under the terms of the hospice contract. Her palliative care consisted of a Tylenol. She suffered in pain and frustration for 12 hours. At the core of her sweet soul, Auntie was trusting—a fatal mistake then and now.


12 posted on 02/10/2016 10:02:35 AM PST by ntnychik
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And why do you think that palliative care is so bad?
So people will choose to die.


13 posted on 02/10/2016 10:03:00 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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‘Palliative Care’..........nice euphemism...................for DEATH................


14 posted on 02/10/2016 10:05:22 AM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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"the exercise of autonomy has been equated with human dignity."

It was 'better' in the original German:


15 posted on 02/10/2016 10:06:55 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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We don’t do all that great on palliative care. Our “drug warriors” hsve doctors scared silly to prescribe effective levels of pain relief, even in terminal patients suffering excruciating pain. God forbid someone die a possible “addict” rather than a less painful emd of life.


16 posted on 02/10/2016 10:16:00 AM PST by Barkeep99
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To be fair and I live in Canada at the Michigan border, it is not accurate to use a blanket description such as "Canada's palliative care". Just like Michigan, it all depends on exactly where one lives. I live in a small city of 75,000 and our palliative care seems in good shape. Lots of praise in the local press for these facilities. Admittedly there is a problem with the amount of doctors available though.

The horror stories come from large cities like Toronto and in Alberta, such as Edmonton. Referring to our neighbours in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, we have good reports of how they cope. On the other hand in the main cities in the Lower Peninsula it may be different.

Again simply conditions vary from area to area. The bigger the city, very often the bigger the problem.

17 posted on 02/10/2016 10:43:47 AM PST by Peter Libra
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Isn’t that the point of socialist “care”??? TO KILL YOU!


18 posted on 02/10/2016 10:44:09 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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Bloodless ghouls.


19 posted on 02/10/2016 10:48:39 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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I work with elderly and this sickens me. Is this US or Canada? Was she on Medicaid?


20 posted on 02/10/2016 11:33:47 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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