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1 posted on 02/10/2016 9:41:32 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

what happens if there is ever (God forbid) a CWII and we win and decide the press were traitors to the republic?

like i said, pray that never happens.


2 posted on 02/10/2016 9:43:35 AM PST by dp0622
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No surprise. The Left is the vanguard of abandoning trust in the Lord and embracing confidence in man and his government. At its core America’s “cultural” and political war is really a spiritual war. The Left exhibits all the characteristics of the spirit of anti-christ and the love of tyranny.

That’s what we’re up against and we have too be at least, if not more, determined than they are to see our goals and agenda met. The Left is pretty clear, although dishonest when they have to be, about their goals and agenda - more unconstitutional federal government tyranny. But I’m not so sure a lot of us on the Right are so clear about our goals and agenda. In fact many so-called “conservatives” actually adhere to much of the Left’s unconstitutional governmental agenda. We either get clear about who we are and what our goals are and be ready to fight at least as hard as the Left fights, or the Left wins by default.

The goals of the Right SHOULD be FREEDOM: 1) political freedom (the opposite of governmental tyranny and coercion) - to reinstate the Constitution as the Supreme Law of the Land and cut government down (about 80%) to its constitutional size 2) economic freedom - unleash the free market and get government out of the market and 3) individually promote the gospel of the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ to influence personal change throughout or land.


7 posted on 02/10/2016 9:56:30 AM PST by Jim W N
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Didn’t left wing Vermont try to develop a single payer health plan for its residents? After 3 years of trying when they determined there were not enough of Bernie’s “millionaires and billionaires” to fund it and that state taxes would have to be raised 160% ,they let out a big collective never mind.If there is one thing a socialist dislikes more than “millionaires and billionaires”, it is facing the reality of having to pay for their own entitlements


8 posted on 02/10/2016 9:58:06 AM PST by chuckee
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The “media” is like the useful idiot. They “think” they will be one of the “rulers” when the masses become slaves of the State and have no individual Natural Rights from God.

Socialism always kills the individuals who don’t conform or are useless or a problem to the State. The sycophantic media lick the b*tts and really,honestly believe they will be spared and live like our masters.

As the ex-KGB Yuri Bezmenov so eloquently explained, they are the FIRST to be eliminated-—they fulfilled their “duty” once the Leftists get in total control and their whining for a piece of the pie is not tolerated.


9 posted on 02/10/2016 10:00:32 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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Sanders IS where the heart of that party is today.
Hillary is where it was in 1992.


10 posted on 02/10/2016 10:02:42 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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The MSM: Soft in the Head because they’re in Bed


11 posted on 02/10/2016 10:03:24 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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It's not surprising that the MSM loves socialists/communists. They go to J-school and their teachers are leftists that indoctrinate them in the perfectibility of the new socialist utopia on earth. No, it hasn't worked where ever it was tried and there are several hundred million bodies to prove it, but hope springs eternal in the breasts of leftists. Their mantra: "We know where these other guys made their mistakes, we'll do better this time. Trust us." Those stupid enough to drink the Kood-Aid find out it's the same old batch of snake oil.
12 posted on 02/10/2016 10:06:47 AM PST by MasterGunner01 ( To err is human, to forgive is not our policy -- SEAL Team SIX)
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Something very troubling to me, is the silence from the Republican side, to refute Sanders’ socialism stands, and support market capitalism as the superior economic systems.


13 posted on 02/10/2016 10:07:18 AM PST by truth_seeker
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Democrats like to fancy themselves as being the poor and oppressed. Oppressed by all those rich Republicans who have all the money. All my Dem friends had more money than me. But they constantly whined that life wasn't fair. Somebody else had a dollar more than they did.

The truth is the average Dem lives better than 99% of the people on the planet. Nevertheless, for Dems life in the U.S. is just horrible.

That's the picture they have of themselves. And naturally, they want to help all those other poor and oppressed people by inflicting socialism on the country.

14 posted on 02/10/2016 10:07:43 AM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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As far as CWII/secession goes, we should pay attention to the Constitution as mandatory authority AND the Declaration of Independence (D of I) as persuasive authority.

The feds and states are bound by the enumerated limitations of the Constitution. Outside enumerated constitutional limitations on the states, states are sovereign and may and should nullify unconstitutional federal acts. However, the D of I gives guidance I believe for valid secession from an existing government, which the South failed to observe and thus were not in the moral or legal right.

Article VI, Clause 2 (the Supremacy Clause) of the U.S. Constitution, confirmed by the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, give individual states valid basis for nullifying and rejecting unconstitutional federal acts which by definition are acts of tyranny. Individual states must begin doing this, which, of course will mean those states must be ready for financial independence from the feds - but of course that is the basis of America’s beginnings - INDEPENDENCE.

Individual states must in good-faith nullify unconstitutional federal acts and notify the feds and the world why the nullified and rejected acts are unconstitutional. This is the only legitimate basis for action IMO toward further state independence from the feds which one would hope would not be needed unless necessary.

At some point, individual state secession may be necessary. The Declaration of Independence gives instruction and guidance for valid secession. The D of I shows valid secession 1) should not be “for light or transient causes” 2) requires a certain “patient sufferance” while “evils are sufferable” 3) notifying and submitting the facts of abuse “to a candid world” (27 specific abuses are listed in the D of I) and finally 4) “when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off such Government.” This is not a constitutional dictate, but, as the D of I says, what “Prudence, indeed, will dictate...”

The South jumped the gun when they ceded from the Union without first going through the necessary steps outlined by the D of I of first nullifying and notifying the feds of why certain acts are unconstitutional. So the South’s cessation was invalid IMO and I believe the North had a constitutional right to fight them and get them back into the Union.

Our beginning point here is for state nullification of unconstitutional federal acts. Also possibly a well-organized and rightly focused Convention of States but it takes longer and exactitude is required for every step or else you may have made matters worse. State nullification can begin NOW as long as the state publicly declares in good faith why the federal act in question is unconstitutional.


15 posted on 02/10/2016 10:15:52 AM PST by Jim W N
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The difference between a democrat and a socialist is the spelling.

Bernie Sanders’ supporters need to be introduced to Swedish tax rates.


17 posted on 02/10/2016 10:21:44 AM PST by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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“...anders reminds conservatives of that appendix in Milton Friedman’s 1980 book “Free to Choose” where he underlines that most of the 1928 Socialist Party platform of Norman Thomas was already part of the American federal establishment when President Reagan began his tenure...”

Sad, our once proud Republic of Free Men. Not a jerk from the path of destruction, just more lurches to the Left...all in the time-span of 2 generations.

Oh, I remember the calls to abolish the DoEd some 30 odd years ago. Now a days, it’s the GOP pushing NCLB, Common Core and more $, more $$, MORE $$$.

I know, let’s continue voting in the (R), though they’ve shown NO ability, NO compunction to end the wild ride to Socialism. Those crazy 3rd parties don’t know what they’re talking about... /s


18 posted on 02/10/2016 10:46:08 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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every financial institution is smeared as “based on fraud,” and where everything begs for a hostile government takeover.
The meaning of the term “liberalism” was changed - essentially inverted - in the 1920s. Thus, when T. Roosevelt enunciated it in 1910 his “man in the arena” speech was, as the word was understood at the time, liberal:
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
Plainly the TR quote is the antithesis of “every financial institution is smeared as ‘based on fraud.’”
The reason that journalists are liberal socialist is simple: journalists are critics rather than doers. Naturally journalists refuse to credit “the man in the arena” and are enamored of “critics” like Sanders, Hillary, and any other Democrat socialist you care to name.

19 posted on 02/10/2016 11:25:10 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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