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1 posted on 02/10/2016 9:08:11 AM PST by GIdget2004
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Its amazing how the Left is again maneuvering conservatives into battling themselves over a manufactured political issue.


2 posted on 02/10/2016 9:10:33 AM PST by PGR88
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Senator Mike Lee Pushes to Definitively Bar Women from the Draft

No. Either fix this idiocy in the Military, or force them in.

Pressure to fix what is wrong will not be maintained unless there is a stick with which to beat liberal politicians over the head.

The prospect of female voters being aghast at being forced in, is that stick.

Don't throw away the stick.

3 posted on 02/10/2016 9:11:19 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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If: Women are to be admitted to all areas of the military
Then: They should be subject to the draft.

Live it, love it, libtards,

You started this crap, now wallow in it.


4 posted on 02/10/2016 9:11:21 AM PST by Da Coyote
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Why not just do away with selective service registration entirely?


5 posted on 02/10/2016 9:11:40 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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Senator Mike Lee, you better tell Sen. John McCain


7 posted on 02/10/2016 9:15:34 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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Can he bar men from it too?

You know, that whole idea of men having to drop their lives to make the nation safe for gals to fret over which pair of “cute” boots to buy, while they are off getting shot at, is bull.

Just eliminate Selective Service.


8 posted on 02/10/2016 9:16:33 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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Not all positions in the military are combat.

As a former Infantryman, women are not capable of that job due to lack of upper body strength, and during long duration forward deployment, sanitation becomes an issue.

But that is just Infantry. (Same for armor and artillery.)
There is no reason women can’t be drafted into support units - that’s where they are now.

This is just another congress critter grandstanding with no real world experience. No wonder he and Cruz are partners.


9 posted on 02/10/2016 9:17:02 AM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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I love when liberal hypocricy collides with liberal hypocricy. Somebody posted a link to a YouTube vid of Triumph the Insult Dog at a college in New Hampshire. It’s dirty but funny. In fact, I think it had to be filthy to prove the point that liberal policies are failures.


10 posted on 02/10/2016 9:19:29 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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This is good! But women in the military can’t be whining about wanting to be in combat units. NO.


11 posted on 02/10/2016 9:20:17 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel ("God only is my Rock and my Salvation; He is my Defence." (Psa 62:2))
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Call it the “make me a sammich” bill.


13 posted on 02/10/2016 9:43:16 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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Female Gunnery Sergeant has HARDCORE response to Rubio/Christie/Bush on women in combat

The three Republican candidates apparently bought into the left’s argument that this is an equal opportunity issue. No, this is a combat readiness issue. Period. Women in combat isn’t a feel good argument about “if she wants to do it” or “it’s her choice.” We’re talking about the difference between living or dying, and living means crushing an enemy whose only way to survive is by killing his opponent.

None of the candidates stated they researched the issue, or that they spoke to any of the military leaders who have requested exemption for infantry and commando units. So to me, many jumped on board the narrative to appeal to female voters. Before any candidate supports the draft, he or she needs to take a closer look to understand what it really means. It doesn’t mean women will be assigned to desk jobs to “Free a man to fight” like during WWII. It means women can and will be involuntarily assigned to combat and infantry units.

Be straight to the voters. Women in combat will cause women to die at a much higher rate then men in the next conflict.

The primary mission of the military is to eliminate the enemy by the quickest and most powerful means possible. When the military experiences any change, it should be to make units more lethal. There is zero evidence women in the infantry, special forces, or combat arms can do this.

The Marine Corps conducted a year-long study on women in integrated infantry units. The results clearly demonstrated women were not as effective as men in combat operations. However, critics shouted that the study was flawed and claimed the strongest and best women weren’t chosen for the study. The women in the study were stunned and insulted when Secretary Mabus “suggested the Marines’ study was flawed due to the caliber and mindset of the volunteer participants.” Several female Marines spoke out that Mabus dismissed their capabilities. Simply put, the Marines felt the Secretary of the Navy threw them under the bus. The Secretary’s argument wasn’t only insulting, it was highly flawed. Just to be a female Marine means you are already above average in fitness compared to most women. Apparently, even to the Secretary, that wasn’t good enough for the study.

The critics of the Marine Corps study actually proved my point: you must be a super woman to do this, and anyone less shouldn’t have been selected for the study. Isn’t that a contradiction to what is already a high standard women meet even to be a Marine?

The military isn’t being honest with women. All data shows that women are injured at twice the rate of men. Yes – TWICE the rate. In Army basic combat training women were injured 114 percent higher rate than men. These statistics are just in present combat support roles, not the combat/infantry units. Is the military disclosing this injury rate to women? Of course not, because it doesn’t fit the narrative. Even as engineers and military police, women have 108 percent higher injury ratings.

Sustained combat operations are physical. Even if a female can meet the standards men currently have in place, she will always be in the bottom percentile physically. Women have less muscle mass and less lung capacity – this is common knowledge. So even the most physically fit women are not going to be competitive with physically fit men. And after serving 20 years in the Marines, I can assure you, Marines are physically fit. One of the greatest areas emphasized by the Corps is physical fitness for the simple reason: to sustain long term combat operations, a Marine must be in top physical shape. Bodies break that can’t maintain the immense stress and physical requirements carrying gear and weapons for long periods of time.

Few women serve in the infantry in any other nation and the reality is, those countries are experiencing difficulties making it work. Israel doesn’t have women on the front lines. There are women in Kurdistan fighting – but much of their training and front line engagement is not revealed. Females in Israel only serve 2 years and don’t serve in units on their front lines. The reality is that both Israel and Kurdistan require all hands on deck, so to speak. It’s imperative for their survival. However, the U.S. is the tip of the spear fighting terrorism and evil dictators that have no hesitation to destroy America or her allies. We can’t modify standards just to give everyone a chance to face ISIS in hand-to-hand combat. It’s imperative we maintain standards and be the most lethal force on the planet.

14 posted on 02/10/2016 9:47:58 AM PST by kabar
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Senator Mike Lee Pushes to Definitively Bar Women from the Draft
What draft?

If women want all the things/opportunities/responsibilities that are available to men in the military, then they should be required to sign up for selective service just like men do...Otherwise STFU!

16 posted on 02/10/2016 9:53:45 AM PST by lewislynn (Ted Cruz: " I'll never have 'a plane with my name" …(or a Presidential seal))
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If the Feminazis want to be allowed into combat then they should be drafted as well. They want their cake and eat it too (combat and no SS/draft). Don’t give it to them.

And I’m a female.


18 posted on 02/10/2016 10:06:20 AM PST by reaganaut (Insert tagline here)
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Sorry, women want equal rights, libertards want women in combat arms, women must pay the full price of the ticket.

BUT, Senator Lee, here’s something that your obviously narrow mind ever thought of; make women register for the draft, and if the draft is ever reinstated, draft them. They can do all the admin, supply, motor t, etc., duties and free up a man to do a man’s job. Oh yeah, they can make sandwiches too.

It’s isn’t equal until it’s equal across the board.


21 posted on 02/10/2016 10:12:16 AM PST by Freakylongjohn
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Some of the comments here are eye-opening. What Mike Lee is doing is a good thing. I get the idea of people paying the price when their world view comes back to bite them. However, that is not what is going on here. The people being hurt in this case are not the ones who created the problem. They are young girls, many of whom will be voting for the first time this year. They are not responsible for this mess. Most women don’t subscribe to the feminist world view, yet some of you want them to pay the price for it by being forced to register for selective service? You want to use 18 yr old girls as pawns for some political end? Really? Passing a law like this helps to bring an end to this insanity. I hope some of you will rethink your position on this.


25 posted on 02/10/2016 10:38:33 AM PST by txjeep
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So far no one has addressed my fear that the draft can be used as a tool in social engineering.

Some misguided fool will suggest that true gender equality means 50/50, and there aren't enough female volunteers to achieve that, so what do we do?

Women won't like what happens after that ...

26 posted on 02/10/2016 10:45:02 AM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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This bill should both prohibit women from being subject to draft registration and prohibiting women from serving in the ground gaining combat arms and in combat units designated by each of the services. Letting women off the hook for draft registration while allowing loonie leftie politicians open the combat arms to women is insane. How easily some people can be manipulated by the left and the media.


27 posted on 02/10/2016 10:48:30 AM PST by centurion316
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One physical fitness test.

One height/weight standard.

Women have had years to put a stop to this, and they just stood there and smiled.

Welcome to the Infantry, ladies.


28 posted on 02/10/2016 11:05:57 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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