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Uh, they may be the default position until they're NOT the default position. Hmmmm. Wonder what ever happened to those inland seas that used to cover a lot of Nevada. Guess they weren't the default position eh? The erf is constantly changing and will continue to do so with or without any help from us arrogant humans. When humans are done, we won't be a blip on the radar.
1 posted on 02/08/2016 7:50:21 AM PST by rktman
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Drought Conditions in Southwest May Be Here to Stay

Pardon me, but aren't deserts supposed to be dry? or did algore decree otherwise?

2 posted on 02/08/2016 7:52:39 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (My Forefathers Would Be Shooting By Now!)
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Couldn’t agree more. My response to the tree huggers who suggest we have any control over the climate is simply ‘how arrogant of you to think we could change nature’. I have also used ‘it is just the yin and yang of weather/climate’. Sometimes that gets the attention of the smug know-it-alls.


3 posted on 02/08/2016 7:52:55 AM PST by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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The erf is constantly changing and will continue to do so with or without any help from us arrogant humans.

Stop hating Obama because he is black!

4 posted on 02/08/2016 7:53:38 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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The Desert Southwest is supposed to be dry, punctuated by periods of flooding that keep the flora and fauna alive that have adapted to desert conditions. Writers should know something about the subject before sitting down to write this dreck.


5 posted on 02/08/2016 7:55:56 AM PST by txrefugee
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9 posted on 02/08/2016 8:08:06 AM PST by seawolf101
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It has always been known as the GREAT AMERICAN DESERT.

http://www.learner.org/interactives/collapse/chacocanyon.html

“Why would the Anasazi leave — potentially for good — pueblos it had taken them decades to construct? Scientists have found one possible answer by looking at tree rings (a study called dendrochronology) in the Sand Canyon area.

In the period between A.D. 1125 and 1180, very little rain fell in the region. After 1180, rainfall briefly returned to normal. From 1270 to 1274 there was another long drought, followed by another period of normal rainfall. In 1275, yet another drought began. This one lasted 14 years.

When this cycle of drought began, Anasazi civilization was at its height. Communities were densely populated. Even with good rains, the Anasazi were using their land to its limits. Without rain, it was impossible to grow enough food to support the population. Widespread famine occurred.

People left the area in large numbers to join other pueblo peoples to the south and east, abandoning the Chaco Canyon pueblos and, later, the smaller communities that surrounded them. Anasazi civilization began a long period of migration and decline after these years of drought and famine. By the 1300s, it had all but died out in Chaco Canyon.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedediah_Smith

It also appears to have been rather dry in the early 1800s. Jedediah Smith was killed by Comanches while searching for water in SW Kansas in 1831.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedediah_Smith


11 posted on 02/08/2016 8:09:23 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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“may”, “might”, “some say”, “say some”, “possibly”, “could be”, de dah de dah de dah de dah.

The Weasel Words of the Propaganda Ministry.

We might be taken over by space aliens, some say. And the universe might implode into a purple hole, say some.

There! I did it! Read all about it! Convene a world convention of Orks to demand a new anti-Space Aliens tax!

They could be coming, right? And cats and dogs could start talking...Some Say!


12 posted on 02/08/2016 8:09:29 AM PST by Regulator
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Drought Conditions in Southwest May Be Here to Stay

Oh, horseshit!

Just random news and opinion.


15 posted on 02/08/2016 8:45:06 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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Drought Conditions in Southwest

Wow. They're getting one drop of rain per year per square mile instead of two drops.

16 posted on 02/08/2016 8:50:39 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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We have a winter home in Arizona and I see these all these bridges with the name of the river at each end. But I have yet to see any water running under these bridges. It's all river channels with trees growing in them. One is called the Santa Cruz River and apparently there used to be a real river with riverboats on it.
18 posted on 02/08/2016 9:13:28 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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"Drought Conditions in Southwest May Be Here to Stay"

And then again...maybe not!

20 posted on 02/08/2016 9:34:55 AM PST by skimbell
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Drought Conditions in Southwest May Be Here to Stay


Or not


21 posted on 02/08/2016 9:40:22 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: rktman; SandwicheGuy; blam
This is a return to the historic normal, not a drought or mega-drought. The 20th Century was the wettest in the past 2000 years. The historic normal for the Southwest, and California, is 2/3 of the 20th Century average. A real drought by historic standards, and those can last for 100-200 years, is 1/3 of the 20th Century average. See:

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/02/drying-west/kunzig-text
Drying of the West, (February 2008), National Geographic, Kunzig, Robert.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D4EWHPU/ref=oh_aui_d_detailpage_o02_?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The West without Water: What Past Floods, Droughts, and Other Climatic Clues Tell Us about Tomorrow, Ingram, B. Lynn, and Malamud-Roam, Frances, 2013, University of California Press

California will be okay after we get desperate enough to overrule the greenies about desalinization plants. Israel is producing all the fresh water it wants from those for $1,0000 per acre foot. California is presently using about 9 million acre feet of water for industrial use and personal consumption, so that would cost us only about $9 billion a year.

Agriculture is another matter. Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and western Colorado will have to make do with the @ 3-4 million acre feet they'll be able to draw from a much reduced Colorado River. Pumping costs to get water from California, or over the Rocky Mountain Divide, will be ferocious.

22 posted on 02/08/2016 9:58:56 AM PST by Thud
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To: rktman; The Sons of Liberty; originalbuckeye; 17th Miss Regt; txrefugee; SpinnerWebb; seawolf101; ..

Most people live out of their memories. A few live out of their imaginations.

Here’s a utube of the relationship between declining cost water and energy and the advance of technology for the last 250 years. Plus an imaginative look into the next 150 years.

https://youtu.be/_AkNOitYmNA


28 posted on 02/08/2016 4:31:34 PM PST by ckilmer (q)
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Aren’t agricultural drought conditions worsened by human diversion of water to large cities?


30 posted on 02/08/2016 8:54:30 PM PST by Rebelbase (Best election ever. Sick of it already, but best election ever.)
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