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TIMELINE: How Cruz's Camp Spun A Ben Carson Hoax During The Iowa Caucuses
TPM ^ | February 3, 2016, 2:12 PM EST | Katherine Krueger

Posted on 02/04/2016 4:27:58 AM PST by Red Steel

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To: Red Steel

Sounds like Cruz cheated, possibly breaking the law. Before the Iowa results can be considered validated, these irregularities must be investigate fully. If charges are warranted, then so be it.


21 posted on 02/04/2016 4:52:15 AM PST by patq (Who is it? Harvard Law School, Unaccomplished Senator, No Exec Experience, Foreign Born.)
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To: Red Steel
The R's are acting like a bunch of toddlers and crybabies. “He called me a name”. “He was mean to me”. “Megyn Kelly is a loser”. “I'm going to sue everybody”. “Could you people please clap for me when I speak”. “I'm compassionate because Daddy was a mailman." “He said I was dropping out, when I know I should drop out, and I should have never been in this race in the first place because I never had a chance to win”. What a spectacle!
22 posted on 02/04/2016 4:54:10 AM PST by petercooper (All the world's problems are caused by the sandrats, hoodrats, gimmedats, democrats and commiecrats.)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

You think character is lame? We already have one liar in cheat, do we really need another one? He should resign from the race.

Pray America wakes


23 posted on 02/04/2016 4:54:40 AM PST by bray (Trump/Palin 2016)
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To: Red Steel; All
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Article Link: http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/02/03/ben-carson-gets-hoisted-petard-isnt-pretty-video/

Reporter: Do you regret, uh, announcing that that you were going to be going back to Florida and spurring some of this confusion?

Carson: Well, I didn’t make that announcement. Uh, I guess somebody talked to … other people…

Reporter: Well, your campaign told the press.

Carson: You know, *I* didn’t say it, so don’t blame me. [laughing]

Reporter: But you’re here telling us that people should know what’s going on in their campaign and hold people accountable, I mean that’s [crosstalk]

Carson: Well, let me ask you this question, is it okay after being on the road for after three weeks to go home to Florida and get a fresh change of clothes? Or is that a problem? Does that make someone into an evil, horrible person?

..... So, to summarize:

Carson admits his own campaign staffer talked to the media and said he was going to Florida.
Carson takes no responsibility for the actions of this staffer.
Cruz staffer tweeted a media report based entirely on what the aforementioned staffer said.
According to Carson, Cruz should take responsibility for that staffer.


So Carson knew his campaign leaked this to the press. Then got angry that it snowballed from there.... He is kinda burrying the lead here isn't he.

And going home to get a change of clothes? Is Iowa or New Hampshire so rural that he can't send staff or go himself to buy some more clothes?

24 posted on 02/04/2016 4:54:55 AM PST by justlittleoleme (Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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To: mongrel

They also lied about the content of the 8pm memo. Not once did it use the phrase “dropping out.”


25 posted on 02/04/2016 4:58:12 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: Red Steel

I like Cruz and donated to him but why was his campaign the only one to misunderstand the CNN report?


26 posted on 02/04/2016 5:00:50 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: CaptainK
The Rubio camp did as well:

But that isn't getting covered by the media.

Rubio camp also mailed out voter violation mailers.

But that isn't getting covered by the media either.

27 posted on 02/04/2016 5:02:31 AM PST by justlittleoleme (Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

Plenty of people care. The timeline is interesting as well as illuminative. Deal with it. Stop spinning for Cruz.


28 posted on 02/04/2016 5:02:57 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: justlittleoleme

Cruz stretched it from going to Florida to get fresh clothes after the Iowa caucus to Carson is getting out of the race is BS.


29 posted on 02/04/2016 5:03:17 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: justlittleoleme

Interesting.
Could it be because Rubio is the MSM chosen one?


30 posted on 02/04/2016 5:04:19 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: mongrel

Exactly. If Carson supporters should be angry, they should be angry at Carson for his inept campaign. Who puts out something like that on the night of a caucus? Who goes home for clothes and not off to the upcoming primary?

Carson and the consultants he’s hired have burned through a huge amount of cash and have very little value for their spend. They didn’t have the wherewithal and money to halt the decline with Trump beat them about the head with his comments and whining about this now is them whining about a problem they caused themselves.

What really shows this is the fact that while calling for Cruz to fire his staffer, Carson won’t do anything to his own staffer that caused all the trouble in the first place.


31 posted on 02/04/2016 5:05:34 AM PST by phothus (http://buanadha.wordpress.com/)
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To: Red Steel

What I saw on CNN real time when it happened, sure sounded like Carson was dropping out. His actions were called “very unusual” by the news team.
To say Cruz any Rubio unethical by forwarding what CNN said doesn’t wash.
Trump, Carson, Cruz, and Rubio, all should be turning their guns on CNN for putting out such a misleading report, not one another.
Instead, Trump and Carson are using this for political gain, and Rubio is not being called out at all, which should tell us something about Trump and Carson and the media.


32 posted on 02/04/2016 5:06:02 AM PST by GrouchoTex (...and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free.)
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To: CaptainK

Unfortunately yes. It has been terrible this election season.. They all are fawning over Rubio.

Bowling on the Five yesterday did a slip and said “Because Rubio won Iowa” then corrected himself and said he was seen as winning because he came in third place.

Trump they remain mostly neutral (I think that is about to change) they are just doing that for ratings, and to take him at when it is most beneficial to Rubio or Bush

Cruz they either bash or ignore


33 posted on 02/04/2016 5:12:43 AM PST by justlittleoleme (Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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To: Red Steel; All; DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker; HarleyLady27; Jane Long; Greetings_Puny_Humans
You know it truly amazes me, the behavior of the Cruz fanatics who seek to defend what may very well be indefensible behavior. If there was any sort of vote fraud, it needs to be investigated. If the parties were reversed, you can bet the rent that each and every Cruz supporter would be screaming murder most foul about how Trump "cheated" in Iowa, and THEY would be demanding that the results be thrown out, Hell - they would be demanding that Trump be exiled from any further primaries.

And they incessantly blame Trump who is doing nothing but asserting that the Cruz campaign may have engaged in vote fraud (and I have yet to see anyone effectively refute what Karl Rove has said, and Rove is no friend of conservatives or Trump) and Trump is threatening legal action of his own.

But noooooo, TRUMP is the villain, TRUMP is the one who must be attacked, and this sick mentality is identical to the depraved individuals in society who, when learning of a woman being raped, immediately blame the victim, asking "well, what was she wearing?" or "did she do something provocative?" or some similar clap trap.

What happened in Iowa on Monday has yet to be fully determined, however there are strong suggestions that the Cruz campaign engaged in electoral rape of the Carson and Trump campaigns.

And that needs to be thoroughly investigated, for the benefit of Carson and Trump, and even for Cruz. He doesn't need this sort of thing following him through the next primaries.

Let the flames begin. I'm ready. BRING IT.
34 posted on 02/04/2016 5:15:28 AM PST by mkjessup (Sarah Palin says "GO TRUMP GO!!!!")
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To: mongrel

I never thought of Trump as “pretty”, but if you say so....


35 posted on 02/04/2016 5:17:16 AM PST by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: mkjessup

Yawn


36 posted on 02/04/2016 5:19:47 AM PST by justlittleoleme (Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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To: Red Steel

Steve Deace ‏@SteveDeaceShow 9h9 hours ago Des Moines, IA

So on top of running for president, apparently @tedcruz must add CNN ombudsman to his daily duties. What does that pay by the way?


37 posted on 02/04/2016 5:24:38 AM PST by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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To: Red Steel

In order to believe Ted Cruz’s account you would have to believe Ben Carson, Donald Trump and CNN are all lying.

And why did Cruz apologize if he din’t do anything wrong?


38 posted on 02/04/2016 5:25:56 AM PST by McGruff (We're not in Iowa anymore Heidi.)
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To: Daniel Ramsey

Are you accusing Carson of deceit? Cruz supporters seem to be without any moral compass if it involves Cruz lying. I can’t imagine the screaming here if anyone had done it hat to Cruz. Christian principles fly out the window.


39 posted on 02/04/2016 5:27:53 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: ETL

BS it has been shown over and over that CNN did NOT say Carson was dropping out that is the twist Cruz campaign put on it. But truth doesn’t matter if it involves Cruz campaign lying.


40 posted on 02/04/2016 5:32:00 AM PST by nclaurel
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