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No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States
Us Constitution | 1787 | Framers and Founder

Posted on 01/26/2016 2:57:32 PM PST by Walt Griffith

Article. II. Section. 1. Clause 5 No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.


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(1A) No Person except a natural born Citizen, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President

or

(1B)

A Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President

and

(2)

Neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

From Webster's 1828 Dictionary Or

OR, a termination of Latin nouns, is a contraction of vir, a man, or from the same radix. The same word vir, is in our mother tongue, wer, and from this we have the English termination er.

It denotes an agent, as in actor, creditor. We annex it to many words of English origin, as in lessor, as we do er to words of Latin and Greek origin, as in astronomer, laborer. In general, or is annexed to words of Latin, and er to those of English origin.

OR, conjunction [It seems that or is a mere contraction of other.]

A connective that marks an alternative. 'You may read or may write; ' that is, you may do one of the things at your pleasure, but not both. It corresponds to either. You may either ride to London, or to Windsor. It often connects a series of words or propositions, presenting a choice of either. He may study law or medicine or divinity, or he may enter into trade.

OR sometimes begins a sentence, but in this case it expresses an alternative with the foregoing sentence. Matthew 7:4 and 9.

In poetry, or is sometimes used for either.

For thy vast bounties are so numberless, that them or to conceal or else to tell is equally impossible.

OR is often used to express an alternative of terms, definitions or explanations of the same thing in different words. Thus we say, a thing is a square, or a figure under four equal sides and angles.

OR ever. In this phrase, or is supposed to be a corruption of ere.

OR, in heraldry, gold. [Latin aurum.]

1 posted on 01/26/2016 2:57:32 PM PST by Walt Griffith
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To: Walt Griffith

Depends on what the definition of “is” is, eh?


2 posted on 01/26/2016 3:00:07 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
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To: Walt Griffith

Posted this again? How many times are people like you going to post this? Trying posting a comment to one of the hundred existing threads before creating yet another one.


3 posted on 01/26/2016 3:01:14 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Walt Griffith
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States

The Constitution was Amended by the 2008 election. Now the requirement no longer has any significance.

4 posted on 01/26/2016 3:04:59 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Walt Griffith
We all know what it says. We need a"Controlling Authority" to say what it means.
5 posted on 01/26/2016 3:10:39 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Walt Griffith

How does the 2008 election figure into this info you posted? Did it meet
the same requirements? If not what has changed?


6 posted on 01/26/2016 3:10:54 PM PST by deport
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To: DiogenesLamp
The Constitution was Amended by the 2008 election. Now the requirement no longer has any significance.

It hasn't evaporated completely, but is now means nothing different from "citizen at birth" as used in the US Code, assuming the poseur was born in Hawaii.

At the moment it appears that anyone qualified as a citizen at birth under 8 US Code 1401 is eligible. And, that might not be a bad thing.

We still have a public vetting process.

7 posted on 01/26/2016 3:11:22 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Walt Griffith

So it seems the definition of “natural born citizen” is of prime importance. It has been debated ad naseum, so why continue to post this?


8 posted on 01/26/2016 3:12:34 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Walt Griffith

9 posted on 01/26/2016 3:13:01 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Link to US Code 1401 which defines all the various sets of qualifying conditions for US Citizenship at birth:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401


10 posted on 01/26/2016 3:15:27 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: datura

The last two elections were won by a foreign student from Indonesia. Maybe that is one of the 57 states he thinks we have.


11 posted on 01/26/2016 3:17:05 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: Walt Griffith

Article XIV, Section 1.

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.....”

There are two citizens, those born (natural born) and those who were NOT citizens but were naturalized.

You are either a natural born citizen, or you have to go through a naturalization process. Isn’t it funny that Ted Cruz was elected as a United States Senator, and no one challenged, successfully, his standing as a United States Senator? You have to be a citizen in order to be a Senator.


12 posted on 01/26/2016 3:18:26 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: John Valentine
Other parts of Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization contain "citizen at birth" language, not just 1401.
13 posted on 01/26/2016 3:21:01 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Bryan24

You have to be a citizen in order to be a Senator
************************************

Yes, you do. He is a citizen.
You must be a natural born citizen to be President.
Born here of citizen parents.
No other citizenships.
From foreign parents or foreign birth.


14 posted on 01/26/2016 3:23:04 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: DiogenesLamp
The Constitution was Amended by the 2008 election. Now the requirement no longer has any significance.

You must be a constitutional scholar of the caliber of cruz.
15 posted on 01/26/2016 3:23:51 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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To: Salvavida
It has been debated ad naseum, so why continue to post this?

Because of the inauguration of Barack H. Obama, it is clear that 'natural born citizen' no longer means what it once did, yet we have not made a clear and precise determination of what it DOES mean going forward.

Frankly, it appears to me to now mean any person who acquired US citizenship at birth.

It appears to me that the most appropriate subsection of 8 US Code 1401 covering Barack Obama is subsection (f):

(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;

In the past, this would not have been considered sufficient to establish natural born citizenship, but today... the man has been sitting in the Oval Office for seven years unchallenged.

16 posted on 01/26/2016 3:24:36 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Born here of citizen parents.

No other citizenships.

From foreign parents or foreign birth.

Please explain Barack H. Obama. Seven years in the Oval Office and he patently does not meet your eligibility requirements.

17 posted on 01/26/2016 3:26:59 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The Constitution does not say that. Not true. Where does it say that?

Born here of citizen parents.
No other citizenships.
From foreign parents or foreign birth.


18 posted on 01/26/2016 3:27:24 PM PST by Perdogg (Senator Ted Cruz - President 2016)
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To: Jim Robinson
No. What the US Constitution says "is" important.

Most people stop reading at "natural born Citizen."

I love our Constitution because it was written by men who loved freedom and wanted to preserve it in a document that does not require a lawyer to read.

What a blessing of a Holy God.

When I graduated from High School, my English teacher changed an "F" to a "D" so I would graduate.

Because of what she did. that day. I have learned to love the English language.

Do you realize the English language we use today is only a little over five hundred years old.

I wish I had a better command of it.

19 posted on 01/26/2016 3:27:30 PM PST by Walt Griffith
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To: datura

Chan Lowe clearly does not follow Free Republic. Birthers have been anything *but* silent on the issue. Insinuating otherwise paints Lowe as little more than a useful idiot with a clever pen.


20 posted on 01/26/2016 3:27:42 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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