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Why supporting Donald Trump is not a betrayal of "conservatism."
vanity | 1/25/2016 | myself

Posted on 01/25/2016 6:39:44 AM PST by AndyJackson

Today we learn from Jim Robinson of a movement afoot to proselytize among the so-called conservatives here to abandon Free Republic.

This is but another effort by the supporters of Ted Cruz to squirm out of the Trump's closing in on the Republican nomination, and, perhaps the presidency. If the close is forestalled, and they SCREAM loudly enough in block capital letter that TRUMPIZOIDS ARE INSANE they will see Trump for what he is and the nomination will go to Cruz. They even project idiocies such as Trump's supporters would overlook it if he killed 500 puppies on TV with a hammer, a projection asking for an analysis that I leave to the clinical psychologists.

While Trump has provoked Bill and Hillary into cornering Hillary exactly where Trump wants her, we learn from Cruz's supporters that Trump did not do this using "pure conservative" tactics, which means, in Brent Bozell's view, Trump is a charlatan. He doesn't walk with "us."

Whatever kind of charlatan Trump may be, at the end of the day, when he promises his investors he will build a building, he builds the building, which is a lot more than the present government establishment ever does. As one of my sometimes libertarian, sometimes Democrat inclined friends and colleagues points out, Trump completed the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas on the ruins of a lot of former landmark, but now decayed casinos, and he did it at a time when Las Vegas and many of its other developers, famously, went bust around 2008 leaving a zone of bleak ruin in their wake. It is a constant lament among Trump's critics that he has holds his bankers and investors at bay, "stiffing them" while he finishes a project, sells the units, and operates the facility. From this we should conclude not that he is a shyster, the evidence for which would be a deed to swampland or a demolished crater, but the consummate project manager getting done what he set out to do, probably the highest moral standard a real estate operator can demonstrate, e.g. deliver the project he promised to deliver, come unions, the mob, city council members and the ivy-league trained mob-in-business-suits, the NY bankers and their legal counsel. Presumably, at the end of the day the banks all got paid, else the first Trump project liquidated at pennies on the dollar would have been the last Trump project. Instead his bankers continue to lend money for his projects.

The fundamental error made by those who walk with Brent Bozell is that they violate an old military principle that attacking a well-defended position by constantly on the same axis comes at a very high cost. Fortifications are built exactly because they are easy to defend and hard to attack. And conservatives have been attacking the liberal fortification along the same tired old line of attack for fifty years now. The Art of the Deal is just another version of Alinsky's Rules for radicals. The constant thrum of the conservative drum has gotten to be a drag [Alinky's Rule #7]. We know the battle plan on both sides of this argument, but conservatives insist on a civil war re-enactor's exactitude towards authentic paraphernalia, but they never go home except to retreat and refight the same battle another day with, they hope, a different outcome. The notion that the liberal establishment will fall if only we get a true conservative to attack them on true conservative principles is fantasy. Grant struggled in his campaign against Lee's Army of Virginia to get them out of their fortifications in the Wilderness and Petersburg. The costs of doing so earned him the opprobrious title of "butcher." But, eventually Lee was forced out of his defensive position and Grant out-maneuvered Lee's army forcing the surrender. Sherman's flanking move through Georgia was another part of this same maneuver.

As an example, the "non-conservative" Trump destroyed political correctness overnight after "true conservatives," spent decades wailing on every street-corner in the nation, even writing articles for publication in the National Review. Trump made the other side live up to his own rules [Alinsky's Rule #4]. Killing conservatives was the whole point of political correctness. What Trump pointed out was that political correctness was also killing those whom it was designed to benefit by making common cause with the injured parties, the majority of whom are not traditional supporters of the conservative cause.

In response to Trump's theme of competence conservatives have likewise screamed foul. They have become the flip side of the liberals believing "right- thinking" in both senses is far more important than right doing. Some 97% of the decisions people make are correctly made on the basis of "common sense" or at least the technical experience of trades, crafts and practitioners. That itself is common sense - the human species survived and evolved large brains not just for the elite, but for everyone because most of the time individuals of the species have a higher probability of survival by using his brain to adapt to the unique circumstances of each case. The argument against centralized thinking was the conservative case against the liberals. Now they demand the same of themselves. And in those cases where centralized direction is needed, wisdom is also needed underscored by the Robert's clever smart-aleck decision that Obamacare is a tax.

In short, Trump has triumphed by side-stepping the tired liberal/conservative attack / counter-attack by showing up the shortcomings of both sides, approaching from a different angle altogether. Whatever the 22 participants in the National Review attack on Trump mean by conservatism, is has unfortunately become the mirror reflection of the liberalism that it seeks to undo. And liberalism has built itself up as the antidote to the conservatism that sees itself as the antidote to liberalism. Each assails the other's stronghold and accomplishes nothing while marauders sack the undefended ground in between.

The fundamental problem, of course, is that conservatism is built on the political foundation of the Republican Party, and, with that party's devolution into crony capitalism, what conservatives attempt to defend is built on a "dismal" plague infested miasma. Defend the ramparts of your castle all you want. You are defending ground no one wants to occupy and the political battles will be fought elsewhere. If conservatives want to be relevant. they need to move to solid ground.

In supporting Trump have we abandoned conservatism? Well, define conservatism. If it is old go to church on Sunday small town America, that is dead. High-speed internet, Amazon, NETFLIX and FEDEX are now regarded as daily necessities in the most remote parts of America and anyone curious avails himself of these connections to the broader world. The doctor is not going to do house calls. Modern medical procedures are so complex and so dependent upon a vast healthcare system, that it sweeps up everyone. We decry government involvement, but is a "free market" solution available? Those who would hope so do have a burden of proof.

What principals are we actually defending. Now, I think that if conservatism is anything it is the application of our great heritages of British common law, enlightenment inspired science and reasoning, and Judeo-Christian principles of morality in how we treat our fellow humans. That conservatism could be very much alive. That is the conservatism of William F. Buckley. But his doctrinaire heirs at NR have abandoned that view.

Another recent post The Ten Conservative Principles of Russell Kirk which are more fully described by discusses this at much greater length. Russell Kirk himself. Kirk himself states that "conservatism is the negation of ideology: it is a state of mind, a type of character, a way of looking at the civil social order."

While a discussion of the full ten principles would be tedious here, let me emphasize two:

Principle 5 Conservatives pay attention to the principle of variety. They feel affection for the proliferating intricacy of long-established social institutions and modes of life, as distinguished from the narrowing uniformity and deadening egalitarianism of radical systems [consult a dictionary. Doctrinaire conservatives are "radical"]. ... Society requires honest and able leadership ; and if natural and institutional differences are destroyed, presently some tyrant or host of squalid oligarchs will create new forms of inequality.

Principle 10: The thinking conservative understands that permanence and change must be recognized and reconciled in a vigorous society ...Therefore the intelligent conservative endeavors to reconcile the claims of Permanence and the claims of Progression. .... The conservative, in short, favors reasoned and temperate progress; he is opposed to the cult of Progress, whose votaries believe that everything new necessarily is superior to everything old. ..Change is essential to the body social, the conservative reasons, just as it is essential to the human body. A body that has ceased to renew itself has begun to die. But if that body is to be vigorous, the change must occur in a regular manner, harmonizing with the form and nature of that body; otherwise change produces a monstrous growth, a cancer, which devours its host. The conservative takes care that nothing in a society should ever be wholly old, and that nothing should ever be wholly new. This is the means of the conservation of a nation, quite as it is the means of conservation of a living organism. Just how much change a society requires, and what sort of change, depend upon the circumstances of an age and a nation.

Trump's genius is framing issues in ways that reflects the problems faced by voters in their daily lives and not the problems argued by inside-the-beltway think-tanks on which the conservative establishment has made itself a useless appendage. If we believe in the vitality of the civil order, in right-acting, in solving problems that face the nation, supporting Trump is not inconsistent with conservatism. Sure, we must hold Trump to our leading principles, and we will. But we can do that without abandoning the field to Hillary.


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To: Elderberry
Variety is #5 in Russell Kirk's famed Conservative Principles essay on which National Review founder Wm F Buckley based much of his philosophy promulgated in National Review. Here's the thread, with link to Kirk's writings:

The 10 Conservative Principles of Russell Kirk

81 posted on 01/25/2016 12:38:35 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Hay-soos and Ach-med, you mean?


82 posted on 01/25/2016 12:39:33 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: OwenKellogg

Thank you so much for that, OwenKellogg!


83 posted on 01/25/2016 12:48:31 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: AndyJackson

“Trump’s genius is framing issues in ways that reflects the problems faced by voters in their daily lives and not the problems argued by inside-the-beltway think-tanks on which the conservative establishment has made itself a useless appendage.”

The things he has said about the middle class have amazed me. How could a billionaire even know such things, or care? He has talked about the artificially low interest rates causing people to lose money through inflation, so many gambled with the stock market, which us sure to go down one of these days. And about the Obamacare deductibles being so high that people couldn’t use their insurance but still had high premiums that were going up each year.

It wasn’t even part of his platform, just answers to questions from a journalist. That shows me he has a pretty good grasp of why he is getting votes and how people are feeling.


84 posted on 01/25/2016 1:55:57 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: pookie18

You’re ability to discern the nuances of the English language is lacking.


85 posted on 01/25/2016 3:30:38 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: CottonBall
How could a billionaire even know ... or care[about the middle class]? He has talked about the artificially low interest rates causing people to lose money through inflation,...[a]nd about the Obamacare deductibles being so high that people couldn’t use their insurance...

Trump sells condominiums into a market dominated not by the super-rich, who can afford "bespoke" properties, but the very very successful end of the middle class. To be successful Trump must understand his market and its desires, its phobias and its economic potential and limitations.

86 posted on 01/25/2016 3:43:01 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

Maybe you either didn’t want to hear it, were wearing earplugs or thought it was it a different language.


87 posted on 01/25/2016 3:49:44 PM PST by pookie18 (10 months until the general election...)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

BINGO


88 posted on 01/25/2016 6:27:32 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: AndyJackson

bkmk


89 posted on 01/26/2016 6:03:45 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Out shoveling snow yesterday, but appreciate your comment:when Trump is elected it will not be on the basis of conservative support, and he will not be beholden to conservatives for his win.

More so, they are doing a good job of demonstrating that he will win the nomination without their support. Then what will they do in the general election, try to hold Trump to ransom for their support? At that point does Trump want the democrats to know he is the conservative choice or not.

Reagan built a big tent and won. Are conservatives going to shelter under it or try to burn it down?

In every argument the conservative case should be - look everyone, here is what is reasonable, here is what is just, here is what is in the nation's long term interest. Instead, too often it is the same shrill moralizing that puts everyone's backs up, and if they have a valid point well, most are not listening.

90 posted on 01/26/2016 6:22:16 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Bush the Elder threw out Nationalism and Patriotism for a “New World Oder”. The gloBULList chickens are coming home to roost.


91 posted on 01/26/2016 6:25:42 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: AndyJackson

BTTT!


92 posted on 01/26/2016 10:46:29 AM PST by The Mayor (Honesty means never having to look over your shoulder.)
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To: AndyJackson

Very nice!


93 posted on 01/26/2016 10:54:58 AM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the GOPee does not want you.)
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To: gogeo

Thanks.


94 posted on 01/26/2016 12:11:47 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
Trump's genius is framing issues in ways that reflects the problems faced by voters in their daily lives

He has done a good job of that. My issue is if his solutions will impact our daily lives. What will be the cost of doing business?

95 posted on 01/26/2016 12:22:01 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
What will be the cost of doing business?

We are already paying the uniparty's cost of doing business. We just don't get anything for it.

96 posted on 01/26/2016 1:11:54 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

No truer words spoken.


97 posted on 01/26/2016 1:14:12 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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