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I have been exploring the heretical electric universe theory lately. It's the only model that the macro universe can be reproduced on the micro scale - or something.

http://www.electricuniverse.info/Introduction

1 posted on 01/21/2016 12:52:39 PM PST by Trumpinator
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We need more mad crazy scientists doing all sorts of crazy things... Science has become too much of a dogma...


2 posted on 01/21/2016 12:55:12 PM PST by GraceG (The election doesn't pick the next president, it is an audition for "American Emperor"...)
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Two non-scientific wacko ideas:
1. Alternate universes. An infinity of them.
2. The Universe popping in and out of existence.
Anyone who proposes them is no longer a scientist.


4 posted on 01/21/2016 12:58:19 PM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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I remember reading such talk about the field of Optics a few decades ago. With the explosion of technology for fiberoptic communications, electro-optic materials, etc., that talk has vanished.


5 posted on 01/21/2016 12:59:36 PM PST by rightwingcrazy
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for later.


6 posted on 01/21/2016 1:00:09 PM PST by redgolum
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"That's why I left String Theory."


7 posted on 01/21/2016 1:00:17 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7915-most-scientific-papers-are-probably-wrong/#.UwyvVM5lock

http://yournewswire.com/nearly-all-scientific-papers-controlled-by-same-six-corporations/

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-most-published-scientific-research-is-wrong-2013-10?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+businessinsider+%28Business+Insider%29

http://www.nwcreation.net/evolutionfraud.html

Lysenkoism: describes the manipulation or distortion of the scientific process as a way to reach a predetermined conclusion as dictated by an ideological bias, often related to social or political objectives.


11 posted on 01/21/2016 1:12:00 PM PST by Mechanicos
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Physicists' fantasies about parallel and virtual realms are not just stale. Increasingly, they strike me as escapist and even irresponsible, because they are so lacking in evidence. Scientists shouldn't have to serve the public good any more than poets or musicians.

I would agree with that if they were spending their own money or the money of a private benefactor. But most of them are spending public funds, so called federal grants. Such funds should be doled out sparingly to projects that promise real dividends in real time (DARPA).

Pie in the sky research should be funded privately. Too much of government funded research has become politicized and needs to be defunded.

12 posted on 01/21/2016 1:12:59 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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But if theories are being passed off as science, shouldn’t they have at least a remote chance of being empirically corroborated? Otherwise, how do they differ from pseudoscientific ideas like intelligent design?

AT least intelligent design is privately funded. If it is a waste at least it is wasted money voluntarily given and not money taken from individuals by force.

14 posted on 01/21/2016 1:16:24 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Instead, physics has devolved into an cerebral circle jerk expounding ridiculous ideas like string theory, alternate universes, time travel, and dark matter. A bunch of Steven Hawking-induced claptrap designed to force reality to conform to some obscure equation, instead of the equation reflecting the reality.

Oh, for the days of Einstein again ...

16 posted on 01/21/2016 1:22:58 PM PST by IronJack
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questions that we cannot answer... because the laws of physics themselves forbid it.

They fought the law and the law won.

19 posted on 01/21/2016 1:26:49 PM PST by MUDDOG
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There’s still a lot of interesting stuff coming out of physics. The problem is theoretical physics has advanced so far beyond engineering capabilities that it’s all kind of meaningless. Once upon a time the lag between working out the math of how some chunk of reality works and building a machine to use that knowledge was a few years, now it’s at least decades, maybe even centuries. A big part of that is because physics and engineering are working in the same directions anymore. Engineering right now is very focused on improving existing stuff, not wholly new things, and physics is still playing with the wholly new. Even when they get a tool to mess with stuff, like the Hadron, there’s still a “now what” at the end. Yea we “found” the Higgs Boson, not that we know what to do with it, but we “found” it.


31 posted on 01/21/2016 1:59:44 PM PST by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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32 posted on 01/21/2016 2:01:46 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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I remain on the cutting edge of the aether movement. I mean, consider the aether: invisible, all-pervasive, can't prove it's there but you have to believe or you're ostracized. Sort of like White Privilege.

Don't even start me on Phlogiston, you unbelievers.

34 posted on 01/21/2016 2:15:26 PM PST by Billthedrill
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Some scientists think they know everything and that all has been identified. I remember [as a Medical Lab Technologist] in the late 70’s reading an article in a journal, that lab scientists thought that all human diseases caused by microorganisms had been discovered and defined. Then - surprise! Up popped, AIDS, Lyme disease, all manners of enteric viruses and tick and mosquito born illnesses, not to mention Chalmydia, HPV, Helicobacter, various herpes infections, Ebola, etc. You get the picture?


41 posted on 01/21/2016 3:24:44 PM PST by Gumdrop
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To this non-physics student it always seemed that too much of the theorizing in physics was too anthropomorphic - it’s true that guys on trains going at different speeds would see the movement of an object at different relative speeds, but there must be a way of determining a “true”, “absolute” speed independent of their observations, and that cat in the box - it should be either dead or alive regardless of whether the guy outside the box knows it is or not - and all the indeterminacy experienced in quantum physics - how much of it results from no more than inadequacies in being able to measure accurately at such minute dimensions - but then I watch a show like “Particle Fever” on PBS not long ago - about the search for and demonstration of the Higgs Boson, and the field -at least major elements of it - seems to take on a new vitality.....


43 posted on 01/21/2016 9:04:44 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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For a lapsed Catholic like me, physics represented a kind of scientific theology

Well, there's your problem right there.

46 posted on 01/21/2016 9:20:51 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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