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Enter Donald Trump - "Outsider" who financially and verbally supported Reid, Pelosi, Clinton, Schumer, Weiner and the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee.

If Trump is the "warrior" so many "trust" that he is, they must also believe he can do many things by dictate - things that he claims are his positions (positions he didn't hold in the past).

Trump is more Establishment (uni-party;shape-shifter) than those now being tagged as "RINOs."

1 posted on 01/19/2016 2:53:43 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Or Scott Walker unemployed in a couple of years


2 posted on 01/19/2016 3:01:14 AM PST by Sybeck1
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I think the purpose of the article is to undercut those voters now who are convinced we have been betrayed by Republicans likey Haley, Ryan, Rubio, and Lee purely for the fun of it. I don’t see how this magically translates to being Trump’s fault. I don’t blame him for that just like I don’t blame my choice (Cruz).

We WERE betrayed, and they are still betraying us - daily. They’ve been doing this longer than Trump’s been on the scene.


3 posted on 01/19/2016 3:04:03 AM PST by Gaffer
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The “Tea Party” movement, by my own observation started with Rick Santelli’s rant, gained genuine traction for a short period of time before it was co-opted as a group to oppose obama care - but instead of opposing it in pursuit of freedom and liberty, it was used to oppose obama care in favor of preserving benefits under medicare.

Yeah, it sort of was a political proxy for conservative principles, but fundamentally, it was a vehicle for preserving the status quo.

I don’t think Americans have the appetite for liberty, if it means they don’t get their checks from government.

The Tea Party episode proved that to me.


4 posted on 01/19/2016 3:08:31 AM PST by RFEngineer
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Seems to be a theme running on NRO. 2 articles? Not buying any of it. Seek help Wright and bring French with you.


5 posted on 01/19/2016 3:12:48 AM PST by stilloftyhenight (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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Trump is more Establishment (uni-party;shape-shifter) than those now being tagged as "RINOs."

I commented in another thread that I think he would tend to resemble Richard Nixon if elected. Anticommunist and anti-jihadi to be sure, but prone to give it away on "ball game" issues like immigration. Despite his tough stands, I don't trust this wheeler-dealer.

There is more than a whiff of something you call "uniparty shape-shifter", and which some historians of antiquity have called Caesarism, which is a tendency shared by guess who? Barack Obama and the Hildebeast.

They didn't call the Clintonistas "Clintonistas" for nothing; they embodied several characteristics of South American personalismo (inherited Caesarism in Latin American culture) shared with the Peron family, the "Peronistas".

7 posted on 01/19/2016 3:20:55 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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First I had seen about Mike Lee defecting to the establishment too. Has Orrin Grant Hatch gotten to him? By the way, the popular Orrin’s picture was a question on ‘’Jeopardy’’ Monday, and a contestant knew him.


9 posted on 01/19/2016 3:47:22 AM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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this is GOPe writing about tea party


11 posted on 01/19/2016 3:49:42 AM PST by 4rcane
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Mike Lee is a polite Mormon.

The National Review Neocons know they can say anything they want and he won’t ruthlessly attack them for attributing his political views to whichever RINO they promote.

By the way, did Trump need to cosy up with Mormon businessmen in the west by donating to Harry Reid.

The only establishment thing Mike Lee did was the Sheldon Adelson gambling ban, which Mike Lee is probably the only person who is supporting it on some sort of principle


13 posted on 01/19/2016 4:06:13 AM PST by ObamahatesPACoal (Savage BLASTS Megyn Kelly, Fox News Over Treatment Of Trump)
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Politicians habe been really disgusting since the beginning of time
Majority will say and go with whatever movement they think will get them elected

Very few are real statesmen

Thomas Jefferson said it back when the country was just getting up and running

When a man cast his eye on public office a certain rottenness sets in ( Paraphrasing )
17 posted on 01/19/2016 4:53:47 AM PST by uncbob
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Let’s put our frustration this way. When they seem to pander to the GOPe it bothers us conservatives. Ryan became very close with Boehner after he and Romney lost the election, almost as if...well, I tried conservatism and it didn’t work, so I’m going to align myself with those in power. I’ve always liked Nikki Haley, but why attack our side after the president’s speech? He HAS fundamentally transformed America to something that would be unrecognizable to our forefathers and even to those of us older Americans. She gives Obama a pass? Incredible! And, Rubio? We were FL residents then and voted for him over Charlie Crist, and probably still would have after knowing his stand on amnesty because of Crist and his democrat stands. However, he kept all this to himself and it sure seems to me that the “Gang of 8” did not change Rubio, but he has always been one of them. The rule of law apparently doesn’t matter to him. He has voted for other nefarious bills that give him less than 80% conservative rating now. Anybody below 80% is not a consistent conservative.


19 posted on 01/19/2016 5:49:21 AM PST by Shery (Pray for righteousness to be restored and for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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Fool me once....


23 posted on 01/19/2016 6:51:04 AM PST by DungeonMaster
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What do all three have in common? Betrayal on illegal immigration. It seems to me that the illegal issue has, among conservatives, become the ‘third rail’ for Republican politicians. I think this is a very good development. Trump understood that all these polls that suggested that the majority supported amnesty were rubbish. He has ridden the issue to the top of the field. Good for him.


27 posted on 01/19/2016 11:01:27 AM PST by pluvmantelo (Barack Obama-gleefully bringing taharrush gamea to your neighborhood)
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