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The Tea-Party Warriors Who Are Now 'Establishment Republicans'
The National Review ^ | January 19, 2016 | Mark Antonio Wright

Posted on 01/19/2016 2:53:43 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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Enter Donald Trump - "Outsider" who financially and verbally supported Reid, Pelosi, Clinton, Schumer, Weiner and the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee.

If Trump is the "warrior" so many "trust" that he is, they must also believe he can do many things by dictate - things that he claims are his positions (positions he didn't hold in the past).

Trump is more Establishment (uni-party;shape-shifter) than those now being tagged as "RINOs."

1 posted on 01/19/2016 2:53:43 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Or Scott Walker unemployed in a couple of years


2 posted on 01/19/2016 3:01:14 AM PST by Sybeck1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think the purpose of the article is to undercut those voters now who are convinced we have been betrayed by Republicans likey Haley, Ryan, Rubio, and Lee purely for the fun of it. I don’t see how this magically translates to being Trump’s fault. I don’t blame him for that just like I don’t blame my choice (Cruz).

We WERE betrayed, and they are still betraying us - daily. They’ve been doing this longer than Trump’s been on the scene.


3 posted on 01/19/2016 3:04:03 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The “Tea Party” movement, by my own observation started with Rick Santelli’s rant, gained genuine traction for a short period of time before it was co-opted as a group to oppose obama care - but instead of opposing it in pursuit of freedom and liberty, it was used to oppose obama care in favor of preserving benefits under medicare.

Yeah, it sort of was a political proxy for conservative principles, but fundamentally, it was a vehicle for preserving the status quo.

I don’t think Americans have the appetite for liberty, if it means they don’t get their checks from government.

The Tea Party episode proved that to me.


4 posted on 01/19/2016 3:08:31 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Seems to be a theme running on NRO. 2 articles? Not buying any of it. Seek help Wright and bring French with you.


5 posted on 01/19/2016 3:12:48 AM PST by stilloftyhenight (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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Frankly, I think all the various semi-official factions of the Tea Party movement (those with TP like names and some with different names) becoming more interested in fundraising than anything else.

There was a report done a year or so ago about all the TP-like organizations and what they took in, what their expenses and overhead was, salaries and percentage that actually went to TP worthy candidates. Overall their performance was pitiful and a very small percentage going to the candidates. I know the one here in my state is nothing more than a scam in my opinion.


6 posted on 01/19/2016 3:20:09 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Trump is more Establishment (uni-party;shape-shifter) than those now being tagged as "RINOs."

I commented in another thread that I think he would tend to resemble Richard Nixon if elected. Anticommunist and anti-jihadi to be sure, but prone to give it away on "ball game" issues like immigration. Despite his tough stands, I don't trust this wheeler-dealer.

There is more than a whiff of something you call "uniparty shape-shifter", and which some historians of antiquity have called Caesarism, which is a tendency shared by guess who? Barack Obama and the Hildebeast.

They didn't call the Clintonistas "Clintonistas" for nothing; they embodied several characteristics of South American personalismo (inherited Caesarism in Latin American culture) shared with the Peron family, the "Peronistas".

7 posted on 01/19/2016 3:20:55 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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The TP was touted as a spontaneous movement with no leadership. Indeed it was. Ripe for folks to simply declare themselves part of the movement and use the notoriety in the press for self-enrichment.

“Tea Party” like the term “conservative” when used by politicians is meaningless. It can mean anything along the spectrum from strict constitutionalist, to status quo establishment Republican.

They are terms that are simply claimed, not awarded by any entity. That’s part of the problem, but also part of the appeal of the movement.

The fundamental issue is that politicians are liars, and want to take your money and award it to themselves through their cronies.

This is true for the majority of the GOP and virtually all of the democrats.

Political parties are not the friend of liberty. They give cover to those who would take your property for themselves - the jackboot is either red or blue, but it’s on your neck either way.

It doesn’t have to be that way, but we don’t have adults leading either party, so that’s the way it is.


8 posted on 01/19/2016 3:39:20 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

First I had seen about Mike Lee defecting to the establishment too. Has Orrin Grant Hatch gotten to him? By the way, the popular Orrin’s picture was a question on ‘’Jeopardy’’ Monday, and a contestant knew him.


9 posted on 01/19/2016 3:47:22 AM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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Nixon thought he give away the store and win reelection, and he did take 49 states! He didn’t know that he had fallen into a trap set by the American people and their media.


10 posted on 01/19/2016 3:48:35 AM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

this is GOPe writing about tea party


11 posted on 01/19/2016 3:49:42 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: lentulusgracchus

.....the Regime....

Good post.


12 posted on 01/19/2016 3:58:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Mike Lee is a polite Mormon.

The National Review Neocons know they can say anything they want and he won’t ruthlessly attack them for attributing his political views to whichever RINO they promote.

By the way, did Trump need to cosy up with Mormon businessmen in the west by donating to Harry Reid.

The only establishment thing Mike Lee did was the Sheldon Adelson gambling ban, which Mike Lee is probably the only person who is supporting it on some sort of principle


13 posted on 01/19/2016 4:06:13 AM PST by ObamahatesPACoal (Savage BLASTS Megyn Kelly, Fox News Over Treatment Of Trump)
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“polite Mormon”

“Neocons”

“RINO”

“Trump need(ed) to”


14 posted on 01/19/2016 4:31:11 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Gaffer

or, it is more conservative to bitch and moan than it is to consolidate conservative gains and move forward


15 posted on 01/19/2016 4:37:30 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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Aren’t you too cute.


16 posted on 01/19/2016 4:40:14 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Politicians habe been really disgusting since the beginning of time
Majority will say and go with whatever movement they think will get them elected

Very few are real statesmen

Thomas Jefferson said it back when the country was just getting up and running

When a man cast his eye on public office a certain rottenness sets in ( Paraphrasing )
17 posted on 01/19/2016 4:53:47 AM PST by uncbob
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Even back then “statesmen” of the day were at each others’ throats.


18 posted on 01/19/2016 5:44:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Let’s put our frustration this way. When they seem to pander to the GOPe it bothers us conservatives. Ryan became very close with Boehner after he and Romney lost the election, almost as if...well, I tried conservatism and it didn’t work, so I’m going to align myself with those in power. I’ve always liked Nikki Haley, but why attack our side after the president’s speech? He HAS fundamentally transformed America to something that would be unrecognizable to our forefathers and even to those of us older Americans. She gives Obama a pass? Incredible! And, Rubio? We were FL residents then and voted for him over Charlie Crist, and probably still would have after knowing his stand on amnesty because of Crist and his democrat stands. However, he kept all this to himself and it sure seems to me that the “Gang of 8” did not change Rubio, but he has always been one of them. The rule of law apparently doesn’t matter to him. He has voted for other nefarious bills that give him less than 80% conservative rating now. Anybody below 80% is not a consistent conservative.


19 posted on 01/19/2016 5:49:21 AM PST by Shery (Pray for righteousness to be restored and for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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And who do you support now?


20 posted on 01/19/2016 5:57:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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