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Trump is the best choice for NH Democrats
Union Leader ^ | December 14. 2015 10:55PM | Grant Bosse

Posted on 01/17/2016 11:51:05 AM PST by justlittleoleme

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To: justlittleoleme; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; Jim Robinson

Wonder what FR posting name Grant Bosse uses or is a ghost writer for?

His bs sounds so familiar to what we see posted daily on FR by the Trump Haters.


81 posted on 01/18/2016 7:08:55 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Obama is living proof of the disaster of not sticking to the Wisdom of our Founding Fathers!!)
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To: wny; nopardons; Liz; stephenjohnbanker

Reagan had been a liberal democrat in his earlier years and voted for FDR four times and admired FDR.

books.google.com/books?id=U2cs7IHERBwC&pg=PA12&lpg=PA12&dq=Ron+Reagan+voted+for+FDR+four+times&source=bl&ots=iYmMp0EL0c&sig=YJl3eWma9XLzKjJPCMd9nXhUunw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiF4YDJmvfJAhUU3mMKHaptA0UQ6AEIIzAB#v=onepage&q=Ron%20Reagan%20voted%20for%20FDR%20four%20times&f=false

Your logic would have been to throw Reagan out and to the dogs.
Fortunately, people like nopardons and I refused to stab Reagan in the back. He won the nomination and became a great president in spite of being a democrat and really liking FDR!


82 posted on 01/18/2016 7:15:27 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Obama is living proof of the disaster of not sticking to the Wisdom of our Founding Fathers!!)
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To: WTFOVR
Ihe banks are already effectively nationalized. Find me a bank that is free from overt fedgov control, if you can.

Ask anyone, who has refied their home or taken out a small second mortgage in the last two years about the federal government restrictions/intrusions even at the local level.

Two years ago, we refied our home mortgage with the same bank we had the original morgage. Our credit rating was and still is 830. Every check we get in retirement from SS, IRAs, and retirement plans has been deposited in that bank for over a decade. Every credit card is paid off each month.

The mortgage lady and local branch manager apologized that we had to recertify/confirm from SS, our holder of our IRAs and retirement that we were getting those checks deposited monthly. Last but not least if a flood or earthquake took out our home, the property value of the land was several times the the value of our requested loan.

They apologized up front and said all of this data had to be sent to their home office and sent to the Feds before they could approve the loan.

It took 4 months, after we submitted the ton of paper work for the final approval.

The following year we took out a smaller credit line loan to use instead of cashing in IRA's to pay for needed stuff for our home. In spite of our credit FICO score still being the same, we had to resubmit every freaking thing we had submitted a year ago. This time this second only took 2+ months.

The mortgage lady and bank manager said before the Feds got involved, our loans would have been approved in the same day we applied by them at the local level.

The mortgage lady retired last year due to this Fed BS, and she is working as an accountant not related federal gov banking at all levels. She used to love what she did until the Feds took away any decision powers she and her branch manager used to make on their own.

Apparently, the latest Federal intrusion with banks is with our safety deposit boxes. We have one, and we and our sons have to go in person to re identify our selves again with documentation like our drivers licenses, and new signatures. Everybody still lives at the same addresses, but we have to redo this paperwork.

83 posted on 01/18/2016 7:45:28 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Obama is living proof of the disaster of not sticking to the Wisdom of our Founding Fathers!!)
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To: justlittleoleme
For decades, Trump has consistently supported bigger government, and ridiculed conservative principles.

10/10 for creativity.

0/10 for logic.

Any (R)epublicrat or (D)ummycrat name placed in there would actually be perfectly true because well, it is. Romney, Ryan, Bush, Dole, Kasich, Christie, FioRINO, Graham, Hillary, Obama, Biden, Gore, McConnell, Pataki, etc.

Putting Trump in there seems logical to him, but is it really? We know the answer is no. Every one of those other names has already and quantifiably meant more of the same, but Trump has no record of being a wasteful, careless spender. Quite the opposite in fact. And he is unlike them because giving in to pressure to get along is not his style.

The only way we wind up with more of the same with Trump is if the Congress unites to block and override, something that is possible but unlikely under a populist who has majority support. With Cruz or Carson I suspect they would be quickly rolled over, blocked and overridden by such a Congress but not Trump. This is the major difference between them all. It should be obvious by now to even his most strident enemies.

Allegedly Reagan's staff threatened House and Senate members that he would fly into their districts on Air Force One and defeat them at the polls if they didn't support his economic recovery act of 1981. Now this is exactly the weapon that Trump could use in a case like this because he has already demonstrated that ability on the campaign trail with his jet and rallies. The question becomes, is there anyone else with that ability and gravitas?

So all in all, a clever attempt to call the outsider maverick guy a RINO big government shill, lumping him in with all our current proven shills. Incredibly illogical reasoning.

84 posted on 01/18/2016 8:18:05 AM PST by Democratic-Republican
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To: dynoman

Please be serious.


85 posted on 01/18/2016 8:22:36 AM PST by FredZarguna (Cincinnati is the new Seattle -- or is it the new Philthydelphia?)
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To: Democratic-Republican

I am just trying to do Trump a favor and get this out before the election...

If this isn’t dealt with by Trump, Clinton will use it against him in the election.

/sarc


86 posted on 01/18/2016 8:24:57 AM PST by justlittleoleme (Cruz or Lose. Trump is a progressive populist liberal.)
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To: FredZarguna
And it sure as hell isn't the Republican party either. Those of you who claim to be Conservative and hanging onto the Republican party as your "best last hope" really need to give it up.

I didn't leave the Republican party, The Republican party left me. So I quit, changed to Independent in 1991 and called it a day. The Republican Party has NOT represented Conservative Values since the election of George Walker Bush.

Wake up. The Republican Party doesn't deserve the defense you give it.

87 posted on 01/18/2016 10:03:07 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
Welcome to the world of the Libertarian Party. Everyone agrees with about 50% of what libertarians believe. Yet they are not -- and never will be -- a major force. Why? Because if you go to l/Libertarian forums, going back as far as the "Libernet" Listservers in the 1970's, you will find that l/Libertarians argue ad nauseum about who is or isn't a "real" l/Libertarian.

So they control 100% of NOTHING.

In order to put together a governing coalition, you have to put together 50% of the electorate plus 1 vote. You cannot do that without the Republican Party, and you will most certainly not put together a governing majority of conservatives with Democrats.

Should conservatism be more strongly reflected by the Republican Party, since its base is conservative? Yes. Absolutely.

Will conservatism be reflected by The Donald® and his administration? Most assuredly it will not. Trump is no conservative. He has a couple of conservative ideas, but no ideology other than opportunism. His liberal Supreme Court appointees will destroy whatever is left of the country after he introduces his "conservative" single-payer health plan.

You're being used by a carnival barker. You're the one who needs to wake up.

88 posted on 01/18/2016 12:27:50 PM PST by FredZarguna (Cincinnati is the new Seattle -- or is it the new Philthydelphia?)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Iowa’s a Tieawa. Keep the faith.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_republican_presidential_caucus-3194.html

I hope we don’t end up with Rubio or heaven forbid someone worse, instead of Cruz, because of this clown.


89 posted on 01/18/2016 1:02:14 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Grampa Dave; justlittleoleme; Liz

“Wonder what FR posting name Grant Bosse uses or is a ghost writer for?

His bs sounds so familiar to what we see posted daily on FR by the Trump Haters.”

They are coming out of the wood work now, but most are using the same old faux talking points.


90 posted on 01/19/2016 7:46:42 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: FredZarguna
So they control 100% of NOTHING.

In order to put together a governing coalition, you have to put together 50% of the electorate plus 1 vote. You cannot do that without the Republican Party, and you will most certainly not put together a governing majority of conservatives with Democrats.

Should conservatism be more strongly reflected by the Republican Party, since its base is conservative? Yes. Absolutely.

100% of NOTHING is the same as 0% of EVERYTHING. And that is what happens when the enemy gets 270 electoral votes. We will have 0% of the executive branch and that is EVERYTHING this time around. It will mean amnesty, naturalizations, refugees, 4-6 justices, countless judges, blocked (D) investigations but plenty of partisan (R) crucifixions, EPA crap, executive orders, and that is just the tip of the iceberg.

No, it is NOT 50% of the electorate plus 1 vote, where does that come from unless you meant to say within each state? Anyway, this comes down to exactly 12 states. The question of the day is whether you want to preserve a wonderfully idealistic litmus checklist in order to feel better, but at the same time completely disregard whether that ideal candidate is who voters in those twelve states want in the first place. Life is not fair.

You say: you will most certainly not put together a governing majority of conservatives with Democrats. I guess you mean that (C) won't want to associate with (D)?That begs the question as to how many Conservatives you really think there are anymore. This is one of those few things that Rush has always gotten wrong, and I mean really really WRONG. He keeps feeding that line to us that we are really a "conservative" country, we just need to organize and defeat the minority enemy. Jeez Louise. That lie is killing us. We were never a majority, and even at the Founding we were a third Patriot, a third traitor, a third too retarded to decide.

On a good day we *might* be a third of the electorate. But the population has not stood still since say 1984 when Rush took notice of things. The WWI folks are gone, WWII folks are going fast, the baby boom ended long ago, they have imported tens of million replacement ALIENS since 1965 and have been naturalizing them non-stop. So I doubt we can even point to a third of the electorate any longer. A quarter maybe? If we're lucky.

Not to mention the fact that from a party standpoint (D) always outnumbers (R) and with the recent RINO disasters both in the Presidential elections and in the treacherous Congress it will depress it even further. If they somehow manage to take Trump out there will be exodus and it will crash like the Whigs. So you might as well face it, we cannot do any such thing alone, if we ever could in the first place. Reagan went from 50.8% in 1980 to 58.8% in 1984 by pulling in tons of (D) and (I) crossovers. That is the exact type of voter in play today because DingleBarry hit his ceiling and many of them are pissed off enough to cross over now. Perfect Storm arising. But you do not want to put someone on the ticket that will keep them home.

It sounds to me like many want to die with an (R) button on their lapel. Unfortunately this cycle it's thankfully changing from Party First to Country First. Those wearing the (R)epublicrat badge who thinks that is weird or jingoistic or nationalist ( like that idiot RNC guy that Rush was talking about ) deserves to get run over. And then back up and run them over again. The country is at stake.

Listening to (R)epublicrats whine about the chance of actually winning one is utterly stunning. It proves Rush is right about the conditioning of many on our side, brainwashed worse than Patty Hearst. Rationalizing that fear of winning because the candidate isn't perfect is priceless. And sad.

91 posted on 01/19/2016 8:37:25 AM PST by Democratic-Republican
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To: Democratic-Republican
Rationalizing that fear of winning because the candidate isn't perfect is priceless.

But The Rump is perfect: he's a perfect Democrat; and he's every bit as conceited, arrogant, authoritarian, and unqualified as Barack 0bama.

92 posted on 01/19/2016 8:50:27 AM PST by FredZarguna (You did not see what I did there.)
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To: FredZarguna
... he's a perfect Democrat; and he's every bit as conceited, arrogant, authoritarian, and unqualified as Barack 0bama.

You have to be pretty far down a bottle of scotch to believe that the (D)ummycrats would consider a fraction of what Trump is running on. A large amount of it is very Reaganesque. If he actually builds a wall and reduces or eliminates naturalizations or even a moratorium then he will actually be starting off on the right foot. There is no guarantee, but there is no chance anyone else can do it at all.

If he appoints Justices according to his comments about Alito being his idea of a good appointment, and Clarence Thomas as a great Justice, and that Roberts is a disaster, then 4-6 Justices would actually impact America positively for a very long time.

If he destroys the (R)epublicrat establishment, burning it to the ground and salting the Earth he will be Sainted by countless people.

There are many more things about Trade and China and Taxes and Tariffs and well you know, but I'll settle for those first three. Without them we are lost anyway.

93 posted on 01/19/2016 9:06:16 AM PST by Democratic-Republican
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