Posted on 01/14/2016 10:37:58 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
Ted Cruz, by my lights, was doing pretty well in this presidential campaign until he started attacking Donald Trump for having "New York values." What in the Statue of Liberty do you figure the tin-eared Texan could've been thinking?
If he was thinking.
Just on the numbers, after all, being a New Yorker is nothing for which any presidential politician needs to apologize. New York has produced more presidents than any other state -- seven out of 43 total. (Yes, Barack Obama is No. 44 -- because Grover Cleveland, an ex-sheriff of Erie County who became mayor of Buffalo and then governor, was both the 22nd and 24th president.)
The list includes three other ex-governors, Franklin and Theodore Roosevelt and Martin Van Buren. Add in the wily Whig, Millard Fillmore, and our one-time port collector, Chester Arthur (who, some insist, was, like Cruz, born in Canada).
To what, if not New York values, does Cruz attribute such electoral success -- the vapors of the Hudson? Could it not be that New York values are actually perceived as a virtue across our glorious land?
It's not entirely clear, either, that The Donald is evincing New York values. He's running a protectionist campaign on trade and immigration. Those planks are about as far from New York values as it's possible to get.
New York's is a capacious and welcoming spirit, symbolized by the Statue of Liberty astride New York Harbor. In rankings of diversity, New York state beats Texas, and New York City tops any major Texas town.
Cruz has lately been grumbling about the neoconservatives (a movement launched largely by New York intellectuals). He lashed out the other day at the "billionaire Republican donors" who "actively despise our base."
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Yeah, not a good move. 9/11 with men and women rushing to the aid of the wounded and dying from a muslim attack on America, all while the twin towers collapsed around them comes to mind.
They have their share of scumbags, most notably their commie mayor and everyone who voted for him, but it’s not everyone.
~ Ted Cruz donor.
There are a lot of New Yorkers who are conservative.
Even many of the the democrats and enough of the liberals will vote for trump
None of them like being talked about in general terms anymore than anyone from any other state
Try this: “Texas values”, or “flyover country values”
Political mistake. Makes cruzsound like a hick
When people say to me, “you’re so polite. I can’t believe you’re a new yorker’ or turn me or my kids down for opportunity for not being Hispanic, it’s bigotry.
I know plenty of hicks who are from all walks of life. It just takes being used to being around just your own type and talking snack or thinking it about another group
Ted sounds like a hick talking like this and it’s bad for his campaign.
You judge an entire state and push everyone into a personality profile based on a few, and you’re acting like a hick. Cloak it any way you want to, justify it by digging a bigger hole, but it’s hick talk
You sound like children saying everybody does it. That is a true indicator of his character. He is a democrat, has been and always will be.
OK, I will change it up a little.
If there was ever an Elmer Gantry to come down our political highway to run for president, Don Trump is him.
Is it just me, or does Cruz seem less likeable when he's explaining his way out of things?
I’ve had quite enough of Texans and Mississippians discounting me for being a New Yorker. It’s a bad tack
Having lived in the North and the South, I’ve always thought it odd for people in one part of the country to dis those in another part. One finds, surprise surprise, that people in the U.S. are pretty much the same. Accents may vary, foods may very, but Americans are Americans.
The problem with dissing NY is so much of the media is based there. Another problem is folks who could well decide other states are from New York. Another problem is that Trump is a proud New Yorker. I suspect he really was insulted and offended.
New York City isn’t going to vote for Cruz, or any other Republican for President, including Trump. Upstate might, they’re part of the flyovers who got exactly what Cruz meant.
NYC was attacked on 9-11, and subsequently bailed out on the war on terror.
shouldn’t that be the land of Weiner ?
California is worse and has been written off
the good guys lack the raw political power to reverse course and prevail
that unfortunate fact is reality. good has become bad by association
That’s the way I see it.
A prime illustration of one of the many reasons that Ted Cruz is a bad choice. Ted’s used to hanging around a bunch of people in Texas who I’m sure think nothing of talking bad about New York, and California, and wherever else. And Ted can join in and it’s not a problem getting elected Senator from the Great State of Texas. He represents that. But talk that way on the national stage and you look like an idiot. Even putting aside his failure to distinguish NYC from New York State for a moment, New York City for better or worse is a symbol of America, of our capitalist system, our can-do spirit, our immigrant roots. Yeah, Trump pulled the “9/11 Trump card” but it’s not a coincidence that the terrorists have repeatedly targeted New York.
As a southerner who’s spent virtually my entire professional career in NY, I can understand the frustration conservatives have with the greatest city in the world being a liberal stronghold.
That said, Cruz made a huge mistake. NYers are some of the warmest and nicest people in the world, even if they don’t wave at each other and say hi on the street- we’d never get anywhere. Besides, you don’t make fundraising trips here every few weeks and then attack our values. That’s just not smart ball. I’ve always liked Ted Cruz for his values, but I’m not sure what to make if him writing off a place I’ve grown to love, warts and all.
NY makes the world go around in more ways than one, and Trump will definitely win NY. I’m looking forward to that.
All that said, when my kids get a little older I’m moving to the west coast as quickly as I can pack.
Southerners know carpetbaggers when we see 'em.
Oh, like 'people who cling bitterly to their Bibles and guns'?
I have no problem with that, but then (like many in 'flyover country'), I don't see any need to apologize for my values, ever.
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