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FACT SHEET: New Executive Actions to Reduce Gun Violence and Make Communities Safer (WH Transcript)
White House.gov ^ | 4 Jan 16 | White House

Posted on 01/05/2016 12:25:09 PM PST by xzins

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This needs to be analyzed in detail. We can't expect that from the GOP-E
1 posted on 01/05/2016 12:25:09 PM PST by xzins
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This needs to be analyzed in detail. We can’t expect that from the GOP-E
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2 posted on 01/05/2016 12:26:03 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Why not cancel the jail releases they’ve got planned?


3 posted on 01/05/2016 12:27:35 PM PST by Brilliant
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Because that would make sense.


4 posted on 01/05/2016 12:28:54 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Obama and Facts?

This is a joke, right?


5 posted on 01/05/2016 12:29:02 PM PST by sevlex
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It does not go far enough! What about knives, hammers, and baseball bats?

So, anyone banned from owning guns must also be prohibited from getting within ten yards of any other person. Ever.. including family members. /sarc

6 posted on 01/05/2016 12:30:19 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Obama has a year remaining.

Which of these directions on his part a just hot air and which can be implemented and cause grief in this next year?


7 posted on 01/05/2016 12:31:17 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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ATF is finalizing a rule to ensure that dealers who ship firearms notify law enforcement if their guns are lost or stolen in transit.

Ah, the boating accident clause.

8 posted on 01/05/2016 12:34:31 PM PST by C210N (Supporting the Constitutional Conservative in the race. Constitutional Conservative Cruz.)
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It’s unlawful so it’s irrelevant.


9 posted on 01/05/2016 12:39:00 PM PST by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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Why not cancel the pending relase of terrorists in Gitmo?


10 posted on 01/05/2016 12:39:30 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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In 2015, NICS received more than 22.2 million background check requests, an average of more than 63,000 per day

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And this is the reason why they are sh!tting themselves. The government can no longer control the arming of a law abiding citizen. So they are now focusing on the dealers and resellers.


11 posted on 01/05/2016 12:41:04 PM PST by WakeUpAndVote
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How about ‘engaging in business’ can be based on the sale of no more than 2 guns?

So, you sell off your deceased uncle’s estate and it has a few guns.

By no stretch of the imagination are you in the gun selling business....except perhaps to Obama.


12 posted on 01/05/2016 12:42:01 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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“We must continue to remove the stigma around mental illness and its treatment and make sure that these individuals and their families know they are not alone.”

Now that is the money statement! Yes, dear citizen, you are not alone, cuz, we are watching your every move, and you vill be a mental case.


13 posted on 01/05/2016 12:46:29 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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It’s also illegal to give social security benefits to illegals, but the traitor tried and was doing just that until Texas and Judge Hanen(?) made him stop.

Legality is not an issue with this guy.


14 posted on 01/05/2016 12:46:33 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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The NSA is watching you.

They’ll soon be given authority to label citizens mentally defective based on overheard conversations/texts/emails/etc.

And it probably will be classified secret, and there will be no appeal that isn’t costly and denied access to ‘classified’ information.


15 posted on 01/05/2016 12:48:36 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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This needs to be analyzed in detail. We can't expect that from the GOP-E

OK, here goes:

1. Keep guns out of the wrong hands through background checks.

The proposed changes to NFA trusts was already underway long before this "executive order" and is nothing new.

2. Make our communities safer from gun violence.

Directing the U.S. Attorneys to actually enforce existing laws. Something us law abiding gun owners have been asking for for years. Nothing new.

3. Increase mental health treatment and reporting to the background check system.

The Social Security Administration does not adjudicate mental competence, so anything they report to the NICS system will be challenged in court, just as the VA Administration attempt was. The increase in mental health funds and additional ATF agents will require action by congress, so it really isn't even an "executive order."

4. Shape the future of gun safety technology.

Directing the Defense Department, Justice Department, and Homeland Security to fund or conduct research into smart gun technology will not have any impact for years, if not decades.

16 posted on 01/05/2016 12:48:50 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Simply applying and ENFORCING the laws already on the books would go a LONG way to cut down much of the violence associated with guns.

Persons who use weapons in a criminal way, whether discharged or not, in urban conditions, upon apprehension should be tried and given punishment to the full extent of the law, and adult punishment should apply, regardless of the perpetrator’s age at time of the transgression.

Prisons should not become merely academies for creating better criminals, but an almost total isolation and very limited interaction, only between the convicted prisoner and any plan of rehabilitation, continued until the prisoner has undergone real rehabilitation, and not just “good behavior”. Only then may parole be considered, but even on parole, the former inmate is constantly monitored, util the terms of the sentence have been fulfilled. This alone would greatly reduce recidivism.


17 posted on 01/05/2016 12:48:53 PM PST by alloysteel (Do not argue with trolls. That means they win.)
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Previous administrations have gone after “kitchen table” dealers that did business on the internet and at gunshows. The number of current FFL holders is about 10% what it once was.

If I apply to the BATF for a license, saying I will be doing business on the net and with a PO box, and will sell 3 gunz a year, do you think they will approve my application? (I am referring to the “brick and mortar requirement that exists with the BATF today).


18 posted on 01/05/2016 12:51:34 PM PST by wrench
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How about ‘engaging in business’ can be based on the sale of no more than 2 guns?

This is the centerpiece of their scheme - they want to be able to decide who is a firearms dealer retroactively, so they scan selectively prosecute individuals who sell guns. Presently, ATF's web site indicates that a number of conditions are required in order to obtain a FFL, many of which are related to actually being in business as a firearms dealer. I think that they have actively opposed licensing a lot of individuals in order to minimize the number of licensees. Because of course licensees have a broad range of things they can do, like ship firearms to other licensees, or buy firearms themselves without any new background check.

So now Obama wants it both ways - he refuses to set an easily knowable limit on activity which is not dealing in firearms, but wants to be able to tailor the definition to the desires of the moment.

Another reason to elect conservatives who will reject that kind of regulation as an affront to the rule of law. How can a citizen be expected to know if they are a firearms dealer or not if the government themselves can't define the boundary?

19 posted on 01/05/2016 12:53:10 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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“Simply applying and ENFORCING the laws already on the books would go a LONG way to cut down much of the violence associated with guns.”

How Biden and the wHiteHutters feel about existing laws (background checks, no less)

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2980073/posts


20 posted on 01/05/2016 12:54:33 PM PST by wrench
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