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Posted on 01/03/2016 2:50:08 PM PST by Mariner
"If three years ago any person had told me that at this day, I should see such a formidable rebellion against the laws & constitutions of our own making as now appears I should have thought him a bedlamite—a fit subject for a mad house."
—George Washington to Henry Knox, on the subject of Shays Rebellion, February 3, 1787
You have to give Captain Daniel Shays this: When he launched his armed sedition against lawful authority, he at least was invited in. Overnight on Saturday, in an obscure corner of the Oregon wilderness, and contrary to the law, and in defiance of democratic authority, both federal and local, another act of armed sedition was committed. It seems to me that this ought to be a bigger story than, say, the belated prosecution of Bill Cosby, or whatever most recently came out of the mouth of the vulgar talking yam. In a small place in Oregon, the essential compact of the United States of America has come apart.
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What's the difference between "armed sedition' and "--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
Restoring our original Constitution fits the bill.
Charley Pierce has been a recycled piece of shit since Mike Lupica and Pierce were getting a nickel a sentence from the far-left Boston Phoenix in the early 1970s.
The only reason Lupica had steadily work and Pierce has been begging all his life is Lupica gives better head.
Yes you would think. Plus this land they want to annex is not public its privately owned.
There are many real and troubling reasons to question the statement : "contrary to the law, and in defiance of democratic authority..."
There has been no Constitutional Law in effect the last 6 years, not when limited Executive authority has been corrupted and abused, and its related "Justice Department" used to undermine the checks and balances of the judicial system.
When such abuse and usurpations are flagrantly in play, and the legislative Constitutional duties similarly corrupted and abused, What Constitutional remedy is left?
Well you have a point but some hills are better than others.
Have they started looting and burning police cars yet? /s
Good
About time folks stand up to this quota boys illegal gub mint shit
Even if the hill you’ve chosen to die on is asleep in your own bed, if you aren’t choosing one to die on, you’re choosing one to kill on.
The ranchers that started all this WENT TO JAIL for ‘arson on federal land’
What they did was set some controlled brush fire burns, to help avoid future disastrous WILDFIRES.
No criminal intent.
And they called that ‘arson’ and jailed them for a few months.
But obama’s federal government could not leave it at that- they say the mandatory minimum sentence is 4 years and want to send this old man and his son BACK to jail. After they served their sentence.
If that is not double-jeopardy I don’t know what is.
The key to victory is not agreeing on a hill to die on, it’s agreeing on a hill for the enemy to die on.
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“....and the feds came and burned your cattle, your crops, your feed, and your barns.
I’m not sure that the BLM has burned a house down yet, but probably not for lack of trying.”
The feds ARE doing this every year. They either let forest fires burn out of control, or by deliberately lighting ‘controlled burns’ that get out of control, all in an attempt to ‘restore’ our forests back to ‘normal’. It’s a policy that comes from the very top, from officials appointed under libtard administrations such as Obama’s. They don’t get charged with arson when their ‘controlled burns’ get out of control and burn down people’s structures or fence lines. Then it’s just an accident.
Cute. Meaningless, but cute...
bfl
FWIW, I’m standing with you in spirit. Too old to do much more than rant.
"When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable Rights; that among these, are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness; that to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
For the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."Thomas Jefferson
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With all due respect, I don’t agree.
Indeed.
Trish nobody in the rational militia movement thinks Aamon Bundy is making a smart play. Stewart Rhodes and Mike Vanderboeh have both advised him against this misadventure. The Oregon state militia are refusing to get involved. The Hammond’s don’t want their help and the community is not out in the streets protesting.
The Hammond’s have reported to jail and its a matter for the courts at this point.
The Bundy brother’s and about 20 others are 50 miles out in the woods in an unoccupied forestry cabin. Its non productive and they need to go home and wait for real fight to come along.
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I don't agree. This is about far more than the Hammonds, and it is not up to them to decide if this is an issue that is bigger than they are. There are those who are willing to wait. There are those who are willing to act.
This is the real fight, and long overdue.
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