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Many See I.R.S. (Obamacare) Fines as More Affordable Than Insurance
New York Times ^ | January 3, 2016 | Abby Goodnough

Posted on 01/03/2016 4:31:51 AM PST by reaganaut1

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A recent analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that more than seven million people who are eligible for exchange coverage would pay less in penalties than for the least expensive insurance available to them. More than half would not qualify for subsidies, the analysis found.

Ben Wakana, a spokesman for the Department of Health and Human Services, said people would still be better off buying insurance.

"We understand some people may be thinking through their choice of coverage, but going without health insurance is a serious gamble that can be catastrophic if wrong," Mr. Wakana said.

Many holdouts have made their decisions after meticulously comparing the cost of insurance premiums and deductibles with paying for doctor appointments, lab tests and prescriptions themselves. For some healthy people, the combined cost of premiums and deductibles, which can exceed $10,000, makes the penalty seem a better deal.

For 2016 and beyond, the penalty will be $695 per adult or 2.5 percent of household income, up from $325 per adult or 2 percent of household income last year.

Susan Reardon, 61, of Kalamazoo, Mich., said she was leaning toward going uninsured this year. She calculated that she would have to spend more than $12,000, including premiums of nearly $500 a month and a $6,850 deductible, to get anything beyond preventive benefits from the cheapest exchange plan available to her.

Ms. Reardon, whose husband is old enough to be covered by Medicare, said she would rather pay out of pocket for the drugs she takes for fibromyalgia and the handful of doctor appointments she tends to need each year.

If something catastrophic happens, she said, "I feel like it's better just to die."

As for the tax penalty, which could approach $1,500 for her?

"Come and get me," Ms. Reardon said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; obamacare; obamacarefine; obamacarepenalty; obamafines
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What if the GOP removed Obamacare fines from the next budget? Let Obama shut down the government to keep his fines. I don't think that would poll well.
1 posted on 01/03/2016 4:31:51 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

A much more likely outcome is that the feds will keep raising the fines thinking they will get the desired results (high participation). Of course they often miscalculate on these things and rarely achieve the desired results.


2 posted on 01/03/2016 4:34:56 AM PST by kg_mobster
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To: reaganaut1

The lying, alQaeda-assisting, GOP is FOR
ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE, in part because
THEY created it, and in part because THEY are EXEMPT.


3 posted on 01/03/2016 4:35:23 AM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: reaganaut1

Why pay the fine at all?


4 posted on 01/03/2016 4:35:47 AM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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What if the GOP removed Obamacare fines from the next budget?

AAAAHHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAH (giggle snort) HHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHHHAH

5 posted on 01/03/2016 4:37:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (It has gotten to the point where any report from standard news outlets must be fact-checked.)
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To: reaganaut1

My premiums have tripled while my business has tanked. Accordingly, I will be dropping coverage as of March of this year.


6 posted on 01/03/2016 4:39:48 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: Arm_Bears

Alarming amount of testicle-free wusses here on FR that absolutely freak when you suggest a tax revolt. Either in its entirety, or something as mundane as not paying one’s Obamacare fine.


7 posted on 01/03/2016 4:41:15 AM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: reaganaut1

or let the penalty accrue and then be gone when the obamination is repealed


8 posted on 01/03/2016 4:43:50 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: reaganaut1
They don't want to be punished with a bastard baby high insurance premium.
9 posted on 01/03/2016 4:45:58 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The goal of Socialism is Communism. Marx and Lenin were in agreement on this.)
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"What if the GOP removed Obamacare fines from the next budget?"

What if the GOP was principled and had a strong leader?

10 posted on 01/03/2016 4:48:31 AM PST by Baynative (Liberty lost is a high price to pay for the experiment of socialism.)
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Why pay the fine at all?

The fine, penalties & interest will very quickly exceed the $50,000 threshold, allowing the IRS to cancel your passport so you will be unable to fly to Mexico, Costa Rica or India for affordable major medical treatment.

11 posted on 01/03/2016 4:50:28 AM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: BwanaNdege

Can’t I just pay El Chapo for permission to Mexico and fly out?

Probably cheaper and less onerous.


12 posted on 01/03/2016 4:52:38 AM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: reaganaut1

That’s like asking the GOP to remove any big spending from those “omnibus” bills that openly confess to being about spending and naught else.


13 posted on 01/03/2016 4:58:47 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Baynative

Then it’d be a second party. Can’t have that under glorious one-party rule.


14 posted on 01/03/2016 4:59:27 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: reaganaut1

15 posted on 01/03/2016 5:04:07 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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"Come and get me," Ms. Reardon said.

She's made of steel I tell you. Reardon Steel.

16 posted on 01/03/2016 5:09:07 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Cruz or Lose 2016)
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To: Crazieman

El Chapo may void your passport if you are a tax debtor
That means you have to sneak into Mexici or elsewhere abroad for medical care... In the future I see a nation of peasants bound to the land over irs claims of taxes owed, and
I foresee a network or reverse coyotes helping Americans escape our democratic paradise for lifesaving medical treatments


17 posted on 01/03/2016 5:09:46 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: silverleaf

I don’t think you know who El Chapo is.


18 posted on 01/03/2016 5:11:18 AM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: BwanaNdege

Great minds think alike

I preduct the IRS will be more empowered to go after “ penalties” than people and the clueless Congress were led to believe

It’s a TAX


19 posted on 01/03/2016 5:12:05 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Sirius Lee

Mrs Reardon was a leech...


20 posted on 01/03/2016 5:12:23 AM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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