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Trump, Cruz, and Evangelical Authenticity
Joeseph Castleberry.com ^ | J.Castleberry

Posted on 12/30/2015 5:13:45 PM PST by VinL

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To: The Iceman Cometh
"Didn't you already see that I wasn't a fan of that either?"

I'd have to put credence in your posts to follow them. I don't.

"I don't like the way Cruz is pandering to evangelicals and I don't like when Trump feels he has to prove his religious cred."

Cruz is an evangelical. When he speaks to Christians, he's speaking to family. I don't expect you to get that.

"Leave that crap for Sunday."

What "crap" would that be?

"Silly religious crap", as one of your fellow Trump fans put it?

"Maybe if Cruz would work on his 'shtick' he had more support."

If I wanted a candidate with schtick, I'd be supporting that liberal used car salesman from Manhattan.

21 posted on 12/30/2015 5:53:12 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz))
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To: roamer_1

Someone has been preaching things along these lines. I’m glad if Ted hasn’t been swallowing it. If.


22 posted on 12/30/2015 5:55:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Confetti.

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Perfect! See yourself.


23 posted on 12/30/2015 5:55:26 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

You took the bait, Cat.


24 posted on 12/30/2015 5:56:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Then maybe Trump should quit casting aspersions on the provenance of another candidate’s beliefs and give some policy specifics - other than his laughable Mexico-funded wall.


25 posted on 12/30/2015 5:56:14 PM PST by wideawake
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To: roamer_1
Horse crap. Had that play run on me before - totally bull. See here.

That doesn't really help your point. According to information in the thread, it's not just Cruz but the entire congregation that is anointed to take dominion over the marketplace.....

That's some strange theology right there.

26 posted on 12/30/2015 5:56:57 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Crazy Cracker Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

I’d sure be exceedingly careful with such prophecies or supposed prophecies. The world is the devil’s kingdom at present. Christians can prosper amidst it because Jesus can always overrule the devil locally, but this represents individual exceptions, not some general inversion of the ownership of the world.


27 posted on 12/30/2015 5:59:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
I don't expect you to get that.

Nope, my Christianity is bible based, not some nut job theology expressed by many so called evangelical christians.

28 posted on 12/30/2015 6:00:06 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Crazy Cracker Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Exactly what kind of “Christianity” believes in saving that “crap” for Sundays?

I see why Trump’s your boy.


29 posted on 12/30/2015 6:01:42 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz))
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To: CatherineofAragon
As you probably know, Trump's core demographic is unchurched white males over 50 with a high school education.

He knows who he's talking to when he goes after a very churched, postgraduate Hispanic who's under 50.

He is pressing many buttons.

30 posted on 12/30/2015 6:02:31 PM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Laughable enough to raise general ire among liberals. Can’t be all bad. Maybe Trump won’t reach the stars, but his enemies are trembling that he will reach the moon.


31 posted on 12/30/2015 6:03:05 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: wideawake

other than his laughable Mexico-funded wall.”

+++

Oh ye of little faith.


32 posted on 12/30/2015 6:03:26 PM PST by Balding_Eagle ( (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.))
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To: CatherineofAragon

Oh is this another Cat fit. This is talking about the ill churched Trump. Look, Ice is actually trying to be fair. Can’t you appreciate that, Cat, or do you have to scratch no matter what?


33 posted on 12/30/2015 6:05:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
Exactly what kind of "Christianity" believes in saving that "crap" for Sundays?

Presbyterians?

34 posted on 12/30/2015 6:05:18 PM PST by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: TADSLOS

Hahahaha!


35 posted on 12/30/2015 6:06:21 PM PST by wideawake
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To: TADSLOS

Well, we agree, Trump is going where he doesn’t have the background to go.

And this is sad because it proves a smoke screen that would hide any actual serious issue with Cruz’s take on faith, or the take on faith of those who are purporting to spiritually back Cruz. Trump is blind to all that. All he can think is that if it ain’t Presbyterian it should be flouted, which cuts against his own stated goal to be supportive to Christianity in general. But anyhow, we aren’t blind to it. And to those whom much is given... much is required. The spiritually low-clue Trump is going to be held to a far, far less strict standard by the Lord... than the Cruz who is supposed to be hitting on all cylinders.


36 posted on 12/30/2015 6:10:54 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Well, this is not the first story of spiritual eccentricities about Cruz, let’s put it that way.

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I would like to read about it. Can you please share one credible source. And please, not from spooner, puny, proust, BFAC, the icenut or the rest of the faux religious, under the radar gang— a reputable source. Thanks.


37 posted on 12/30/2015 6:15:00 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

I.e. not from anyone who might CARE rather than want to sweep it under the rug?


38 posted on 12/30/2015 6:15:32 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: The Iceman Cometh
That doesn't really help your point. According to information in the thread, it's not just Cruz but the entire congregation that is anointed to take dominion over the marketplace.....

That's some strange theology right there.

No it's not - an 'anointing' is a fairly common term in any of the Spirit-filled churches.

There's literally hours of Rafael Cruz on Youtube - Pretty typical Southern Baptist, maybe a bit more spirit oriented than you might be used to... with a pretty hard patriotic edge... Pretty great to listen to. I haven't listened to them all, by any means...

But that last time that play of yours was made, I started listening to him. Big mistake on your part, getting Christians curious about him.

You aren't going to win here. Rafael Cruz is a Professor of Bible and a Professor of Theology... and tours the country speaking... Here's a pretty good example

39 posted on 12/30/2015 6:16:19 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Someone has been preaching things along these lines. I’m glad if Ted hasn’t been swallowing it. If.

Rafael Cruz has hours of sermons on youtube. go satisfy yourself. There's a pretty good one in my last post.

40 posted on 12/30/2015 6:18:33 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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