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Paraguay keeping M3 Stuart, M4 Sherman tanks in service
IHS Janes 360 ^ | 12-29-2015 | Erwan de Cherisey

Posted on 12/30/2015 9:35:29 AM PST by Snickering Hound

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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Landlocked Paraguay also has a navy. The bought a war ship of some description, but it was too big. It couldn’t get out on the Parana River and into the Atlantic for half the year. The water level was too low.

So finding they have Sherman tanks is not surprising.


61 posted on 12/30/2015 10:57:32 AM PST by bajabaja (Too ugly to be scanned at the airports.)
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To: archy; skeeter
Besides, the UK has the only running Tiger tank. You can sort of "see" it in the movie "Fury".

For fear of breaking it, it had minimal movement, and a CGI-friendly peelable coating to fill in the paint scheme, and action details and "damage".

62 posted on 12/30/2015 10:58:01 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Old Sarge
I would love to see one of those in working condition, just for the history sentiment.

Ever see the movie Tank Girl?


63 posted on 12/30/2015 10:59:25 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
This doesn’t explain why they bothered to invade.

There is virtually nothing there.

I take it you've never been to the nudist beach at Cordillera.

64 posted on 12/30/2015 11:02:09 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: tumblindice

The “Combat-happy Joes of Easy Company”. Fond childhood memories.


65 posted on 12/30/2015 11:03:25 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: archy
You could move to Zimbabwe?

Looks like they could use a weed whip.

66 posted on 12/30/2015 11:05:15 AM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: archy

Ogod, THAT thing? It was almost - ALMOST - unwatchable sober...


67 posted on 12/30/2015 11:07:19 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

True, but if you replace the M3 gun with the M256 120mm smoothbore gun and explosive reactive armor you would have an effective tank!


68 posted on 12/30/2015 11:08:48 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: W.Lee
Wasn’t the Sherman referred to by the British as the “Zippo” because of it’s penchant to light up when hit? Not meant to insult, but I remember reading that somewhere.

Sort of, and partly true. Also true of any tank using an aircraft radial engine as its powerplant, moreso if still running aviation fuel, less so- a bit less, maybe- if detuned for regular military grade MoGas.

Remember that the Finnish inventors of the Molotov Cocktail firebomb for use against tanks did so because the Russian light tanks, Amphibians and armored cars of the 1939-'40 *Winter War* were gasoline engined. So were most of the tanks the Brits used in North Africa, their own as well as the ones we sent them, as well as those run by the Germans, trying to save scarce Diesel fuel for their U-boat service.

In my day a *Ronson* or *Zippo* tank or track was one with a flamethrower on board. Real handy against light infantry attacks at night.


69 posted on 12/30/2015 11:10:30 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Snickering Hound
Wonder if I can get USAA Auto Finder to find me a working used one a an affordable price?

Wonder what,

1. Arizona license/registration would cost.

2. What USAA Insurance would cost.

3. How many Gas/Diesel Station Attendant Heart Attacks this would cause when I KLANITY/KLANKED in and said “Fill Er Up.”

4. How many local & Az Cops I'd cause to faint.

70 posted on 12/30/2015 11:11:31 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: W.Lee

The Brits were just jealous when Patton kicked Rommel’s ass with them.


71 posted on 12/30/2015 11:12:49 AM PST by Crucial (At the heart all leftistshttps://terri0729.fil is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: SandRat
You want an M3 or an M5?

An M5 went for 300K two years back.

On the other hand, MV Specialists in Kent, England scored 18 M3A1s from Brazil and is working like Santa's elves to get them back in shape- it helps that he picked up 60 tons of spares. If you get one, get one with the Continental engine, not the Guiberson [goobersome!] Diesel engine.

As for License/registration: incorporate in Montana: $87.50 LIFETIME registration rate, $5 Montana Highway Patrol Salary and Retention Fee, county tax, $6 optional state parks support, certain special plate fees and $5 insurance verification fee if existing plates are kept on the vehicle

Insurance: register in Montana and self-insure.

How many Gas/Diesel Station Attendant Heart Attacks this would cause when I KLANITY/KLANKED in and said “Fill Er Up.”

In my experience, they smile all the way to the bank. And after they leave, they chuckle a bit.

4. How many local & Az Cops I'd cause to faint.

Nah. They want to go for a ride. Almost always.

72 posted on 12/30/2015 11:29:57 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Years ago I was in what was then called Puerto Stroessner, now Puerto de Este, after the coup). Under both names, that river port city was the smuggling capitol of South America. I bought six Rolex watches from a guy who had about a dozen of them under his sleeve, just like in the movies. I gave him $100 for six of the Rolexes for gifts and the dude threw in a pair of “genuine” Oscar de la Renta shades. I LOVE Paraguay.


73 posted on 12/30/2015 11:34:27 AM PST by Ax ("You'll Never Walk Alone" (LFC))
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To: Starstruck
Looks like they could use a weed whip.

Aikona, don't say *whip* to a Zimbabweenie! Sis, they take it right personal, meneer!

74 posted on 12/30/2015 11:36:28 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: taxcontrol

“I believe it was Ben Franklin who said “Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.” “

Maybe Ben Franklin said it first, but it’s funnier if you credit it to Bill Clinton.


75 posted on 12/30/2015 11:37:30 AM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: PLMerite

“I believe it was Ben Franklin who said “Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.” “

Maybe Ben Franklin said it first, but it’s funnier if you credit it to Bill Clinton.


76 posted on 12/30/2015 11:39:17 AM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

They would loved to have had them in early 1930s for the Chaco conflict

But considering the first Stuart or Sherman tanks didn’t hit the ground till 1941.....

It would have been hard in early or even late 30s


77 posted on 12/30/2015 11:49:27 AM PST by wardaddy (Save western civilization and save the world....lose it & it's a dark ages unknown to human history)
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To: archy

Paraguay for their size are badassed and heroic and understand full well victory and despair

Not to be underestimated


78 posted on 12/30/2015 11:51:20 AM PST by wardaddy (Save western civilization and save the world....lose it & it's a dark ages unknown to human history)
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To: Snickering Hound
"The M3 Stuart light tank and M4 Sherman main battle tank, both nearly 75 years old, appear to be going back into service with the Paraguayan Army as operational trainers. "

If they keep 'em a little longer, they'll be able to upgrade them with railgun turrets.

(This image is sci-fi, not prototype)

79 posted on 12/30/2015 11:57:22 AM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Snickering Hound

Didn’t some British collector buy a bunch of M3s from some South American country a couple of years ago?


80 posted on 12/30/2015 12:22:22 PM PST by ozzymandus
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