Republicans split on attacking climate science (Hoax deniers walk amongst us?)

The Hill ^ | 12/27/15 | Timothy Cama

[Amendment10]

What federal lawmakers do not want citizens to know about PC global warming is the following. Regardless if global warming had been scientifically proven by the consistent results of repeatable, scientific method-based experiments, it remains that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to address global warming issues.

Note that the Founding States had made the 10th Amendment to clarify that the Constitutions silence about things like global warming means that such issues are automatically and unquely state power issues.

In fact, a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that Congress is prohibiting from appropriationg taxes in the name of state power issues, essentially any issue which Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

”Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” - Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So the only thing proven about global warming is that it is one of the best excuses to win unconstitutional federal funding with no accountability.

And when patriots elect Trump, or whatever conservative they elect as president, they need to also elect a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to support the new president.

Also consider that such a Congress would probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.

[Iron Munro]

I've got an idea - make every hoax denier stop purchasing fossil fuel. Give it a hundred years or so and we'll analyze the results.

If they were really true believers they would stop using any sort of energy or products based on "fossil fuels".

That would eliminate about 99.9% of everything they touch, use, eat or consume, rely on or ride in.

[SoFloFreeper]

[sport]

Republicans do not attack anything but Conservatives.

[Rembrandt]

I deny the hoax, but if you try to deny me buying fossil fuels, what kind of government are you practicing?

[Rembrandt]

Hi Wendle,

I just stood up, did you see me?

Why don’t you just go back to Mr. Ed?

[Pontiac]

Average composition of the atmosphere up to an altitude of 25 km.

Gas Name	Chemical Formula	Percent Volume
Nitrogen	N2	78.08%
Oxygen	O2	20.95%
*Water	H2O	0 to 4%
Argon	Ar	0.93%
*Carbon Dioxide	CO2	0.0360%
Neon	Ne	0.0018%
Helium	He	0.0005%
*Methane	CH4	0.00017%
Hydrogen	H2	0.00005%
*Nitrous Oxide	N2O	0.00003%
*Ozone	O3	0.000004%

* variable gases

Water is also a Green House Gas.

The percentage of Water in the atmosphere is commonly given the working average of 1%.

So the greenhouse gas ‘water’ is 28 times more abundant in the atmosphere and we are worried about carbon dioxide?

Also commonly ignored in the discussion in the press of Global Warming is the fact that the solubility of carbon dioxide in the ocean falls as the ocean temperature rises. So it is it is far more likely that rising CO2 levels are more an artifact of rising global temperatures than vice versa.

[TBP]

The science is clear. Global warming is a hoax and a fraud.

[Libloather]

I deny the hoax, but if you try to deny me buying fossil fuels, what kind of government are you practicing?

The same kind of government which denies everyone electricity from coal burning power plants. Maybe I didn't go far enough. Not only should you not purchase the earth-choking fossil fuel, you should also be forced to purchase a certain type of vehicle so that the planet can be saved even quicker. That is the goal of the hoax deniers - yes?

[wiggen]

Pretty simple to stand for environmentally sound policies while doubting climate change. People make them out to be indistinguishable but they’re not the same. By making the same claim you get to say a doubter is for poisoned lakes and pollution.

[RightLady]

Where does Trump stand on this ????? He has dodged the question. Rubio? others are global warmist I think.

[gleeaikin]

Climate sure has changed this year. Unless there is a very different late winter early spring, this will be the shortest mid-Atlantic winter I will have seen in 54 years.

[AdmSmith]

The split comes as more and more voters, particularly young people and minorities, say in opinion polls that they believe climate change is real and want action to fight it.

Normally you get wiser with age, but they do not have to wait for long; it looks like a new cold period will start about 2030:

Scientists have studied the evolution of the solar magnetic field and the number of sunspots on the Sun's surface. The amplitude and the spatial configuration of the magnetic field of our star are changing over the years. Every 11 years the number of sunspots decreases sharply. Every 90 years this reduction (when it coincides with the 11-year cycle) reduces the number of spots by about a half. A 300-400 year lows reduce their numbers almost to zero. Best known minimum is the Maunder minimum, which lasted roughly from 1645 to 1715. During this period, there were about 50 sunspots instead of the usual 40 000-50 000.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-12/lmsu-wew120115.php

Original article: Heartbeat of the Sun from Principal Component Analysis and prediction of solar activity on a millenium timescale
http://www.nature.com/articles/srep15689

[SunkenCiv]

Partisan Media Shills Alert!