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Townhall.com ^ | December 25, 2015 | Mona Charen

Posted on 12/25/2015 5:55:12 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 12/25/2015 5:55:12 AM PST by Kaslin
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>>Portions of the Republican base are ferociously determined to punish Rubio for his immigration stance (though it differed only slightly from Sen. Cruz’s, and as for Trump’s views, name the day). But the new Republican establishments — talk radio, Twitter, Heritage Action — are single-issue constituencies, and they seem to be in the driver’s seat.

That “single issue” is stopping the Progressive takeover of America. It’s a pretty broad “single issue” but it is the alligator portion of the old saying, “When you are up to your ass in alligators, its hard to remember that your job was to drain the swamp.”

FYI Mona, we went out to eat last night and THEN went to church at 11 pm.


2 posted on 12/25/2015 6:02:14 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Immigration is the only debate-worthy issue, and the author of this piece still doesn’t understand Americans don’t want to bend over and take it anymore.


3 posted on 12/25/2015 6:09:13 AM PST by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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To: Kaslin
Marco Rubio looks like a Cub Scout.

Hillary will eat him up like a mean old witch from a Grimm'm Fairy Tale.

That said, I think he is a good man and he has a very bright future, just not Nov 2016.

4 posted on 12/25/2015 6:14:36 AM PST by Pietro
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Principal is one thing, stupidity another. There's some truth in the Stone's lyrics: "You can't always get what you want but if try sometime, you'll get what you need."

ANY of the Republican candidates will be better than Hillary.

Every Conservative who stays home on election day(s) with the excuse of "principal" or "conviction" is simply helping the Democrats.

"THE BEST IS THE ENEMY OF THE GOOD!"

Come primary and general, for God's sake vote for the least evil candidate!!!

5 posted on 12/25/2015 6:19:51 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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he's a superb debater and a tea party favorite, and (with the exception of immigration -- if you accept the premise that building a wall and deporting illegals is the conservative position) he is a firm conservative.
For generations before Senator Ted Kennedy, there was no legal immigration at all. The reductio ad absurdum of unrestricted immigration is that 100 million Arabs come to the US, go on the dole and, in counties and states across the US, institute the antithesis of constitutional government - i.e., Sharia law. It is not at all clear that the current (elected!) POTUS has any animus against that. At all.

So if you have any question about imposing some control on immigration, you are not conservative. In fact, the only question is whether or not you are sane.


6 posted on 12/25/2015 6:59:56 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: JesusIsLord
ANY of the Republican candidates will be better than Hillary.

It wasn't so long ago that I used to believe that fairy tale. It's now irrefutable that the 'rat party and the GOPe are two wings of the same party. I'll grant that the GOPe candidates are 'nicer' than the shrewish Hillary, but the end result would be the same.

7 posted on 12/25/2015 7:09:16 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (''Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small''~ Theodore Dalrym)
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To: Kaslin
I've always liked Mona Charen, but I disagree with her on this.

Cruz all the way!

8 posted on 12/25/2015 7:09:32 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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with the exception of immigration ... he is a firm conservative

"Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

9 posted on 12/25/2015 7:14:24 AM PST by Gandalf the Mauve
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I know this is hard to believe, but a Christmas tree has virtually nothing to do with a conviction for Christ. I could be wrong but I believe scholars think Christ was born sometime in the spring. December 25th was the Catholic church taking over the pagan midwinter festival. I have no quarrel with celebrating Christ’s birth on Dec 25th, but it is no requirement of my commitment to salvation through his grace.


10 posted on 12/25/2015 7:58:44 AM PST by R Rogers
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December 25th was the Catholic church taking over the pagan midwinter festival.

No, it's approximately 9 months removed from Passover, and the idea was that Jesus was conceived around the same time of year that he died.

The Saturnalia was before Dec. 25th in any case, and "Dies Natalis Solis Invictus" is likely to have been the *pagans* trying to co-opt Christmas, not the other way around, since the evidence for it is about as old as that for Christmas on Dec. 25th.

11 posted on 12/25/2015 10:13:48 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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About 15 years ago, on Christmas Eve, our family departed from the traditional American Jewish observance of the holiday

I think Mona's takeoff point is a bit confused. Christmas Eve is not "the holiday," and most Christians would not think of their holidays as starting at sundown on the previous day, as Jews would. (Catholics sort of do, but only sort of. The big Christmas celebration is at midnight.)

12 posted on 12/25/2015 10:18:50 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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I have never been to the Midnight Mass. When I was a child in Germany we kids were always sent to the Christmas Eve mass at 5pm. My oldest brother always came to visit with his wife and they always went to the Midnight Mass.

Also in Germany the Christmas tree is decorated on Christmas eve while the kids are in Church, so they don't see the tree being decorated by the parents. It's the Christkindle (Christchild) who's decorating the tree and puts the presents under the tree. Then when everything is ready a little bell is rung and the candles are lit on the tree, when the kids are allowed the enter the room. I kept the tradition up when our children were smaller, but now they have their own traditions

13 posted on 12/25/2015 12:40:00 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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Question: Why did you not post the entire sentence?

About 15 years ago, on Christmas Eve, our family departed from the traditional American Jewish observance of the holiday (ordering Chinese takeout) and elected to find an open restaurant.

14 posted on 12/25/2015 12:43:43 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Read Write Repeat

News Flash: Terrorism is the big issue in this election. Do a search


15 posted on 12/25/2015 12:45:26 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: JesusIsLord

You are correct. Any of the republican Candidates are better than Hillary. Those who say no just want to vote for some third party candidate who has no chance whatsoever getting elected and by doing so they are throwing the election over to Hillary without even noticing it.


16 posted on 12/25/2015 12:49:45 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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Immigration is the only debate-worthy issue, and the author of this piece still doesn’t understand Americans don’t want to bend over and take it anymore.

Mona Charen is conservative and is attracted to the Rubio package, and she appears to be prepared to overlook his compromised position on immigration and his sponsorship by the GOP-e.

She's lost sight of the fact that immigration is the ball game, that Bush and Obama both have worked to flood America with cheap-working hammer swingers ..... who will vote Democratic for the next 75 years.

The major source of illegal immigration is Mexico, where people are "socially conservative" in a way meant by demographers to mean that they hold fast to old patterns and values. If great-grandfather Victorio voted Socialist, for the Mexican PRD, then the great-grandson and his great-grandson will vote for the most socialist party they can find -- and that's the 'Rat Party. The Mexican and Mexican-American voter breaks 70% straight-ticket Democrat, and the Moslems vote 80% Democrat when they achieve the franchise.

THAT is why Obama is flooding the country with Mexican anchor babies and Moslem terrorists like the shark-eyed gun moll of San Bernardino, Tashfeen the Merciless.

17 posted on 12/25/2015 3:53:40 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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....just want to vote for some third party candidate who has no chance ....

And just "whom" would that be? (Thanks for warning us.)

18 posted on 12/25/2015 4:20:20 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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Interesting post. Thanks for posting that.

I remember lighting the candles on my English grandparents' tree in 1952. It was very different. Popcorn chains, no flocking or spray-on 'snow' .... very pretty, very Engish.

And I very seriously hammered the strawberry tarts. My grandmother was a crackerjack pie-crust maker.

19 posted on 12/25/2015 4:23:52 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: Sans-Culotte
It wasn't so long ago that I used to believe that fairy tale.

I would argue that any change, which results in removing D's from the government, is a good change. We know that the Republican party is a party made up of RINOs, moderates and conservatives. I would argue that it's easier for conservative Republicans to influence the Republican party as compared to influencing the Democrat party. Also, there will be pressure on any Republican President, regardless of political stripe, to cooperate with his/her party - a party that includes many conservatives.

20 posted on 12/25/2015 4:54:42 PM PST by JesusIsLord
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