Posted on 12/22/2015 8:23:35 AM PST by ConservingFreedom
The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) says IT jobs will grow 12% over the next decade, except for programmers. That occupation will shrink as more work is shifted to lower wage countries, according to the government. [...]
Software developers, the largest occupational group in IT, which employs 1.11 million, will increase by 17% or 186,600, over this period.
Programmers are focused on coding and implementing requirements, and that's why they may be more susceptible to offshoring, in contrast to software developers who may be more engaged with the business, analyzing needs and collaborating with multiple parties. In IT occupations overall, the U.S. is predicting 488,500 new jobs, from 3.9 million to 4.4 million over the next 10 years. [...]
This data may become fodder in the debate over H-1B visas. The U.S., according to the National Science Foundation, awarded about 48,000 computer science bachelor degrees in 2012, which is roughly equal to the number of jobs per year that all computer occupations will grow by. [...]
About 36% of the people who work in IT do not have four-year college degrees, and of those who do, only 38% have a computer science or math degree, according to an Economic Policy Institute paper by Hal Salzman, a Rutgers University public policy professor, Daniel Kuehn, an adjunct economics professor at American University, and B. Lindsay Lowell, the director of policy studies at the Institute for the Study of International Migration at Georgetown University.
Salzman said he can't see how the demand for IT workers, outlined in the BLS data, justifies bills in Congress to increase the number of visa workers by 180,000 or more.
"The math doesn't seem to add up to support an increase at the magnitude provided in these new bills,"
(Excerpt) Read more at computerworld.com ...
Do you want to pay more and code it once or twice or do you want to pay less and code it 10-11 times? In all my years in IT, I never had an offshoring project which finished on time or on schedule.
And every time it had to do with understanding the requirements, because if they don’t understand it, they don’t tell you. They just wait until you ask where the code is and then they tell you.
That’s all you need, more projects and nobody to develop them.
Too bad we can’t offshore Congress.
I suspect they already get most of their money from overseas, so it would be no change in the bad performance, just salary savings on our end.
Freepers do not let your babies grown up to be programmers.
Programmers ain't easy to love and they're harder to hold And they'd rather give you a prototype than diamonds or gold Overweight neckbeards and old faded hoodies And each night begins a new day If you don't understand him, an' he don't die young He'll prob'ly just rant away
Freepers, don't let your babies grow up to be programmers Don't let 'em use keyboards or hack on some stuff Let 'em be doctors and lawyers and such Freepers don't let your babies grow up to be programmers Cause they'll never get job and they're always alone because the third world has learned how to code
And none of those jobs will go to White American males.
I honestly envision lunch pail, whistle blowing plants operational by 2018
Shoes from the leather from our beef industry, Anchor Hocking importing from the (former) Middle east ( .. /8^) .. ), steel from Pittsburgh,(more) Autos from Detroit, guns from any state, etc.
How many "I's" can one "T" ?
How many "T's" does it take to make an "I"
(prepared for the Polish, Chinese, redneck lightbulb jokes ... )
Will Ted Cruz comment?
I used to use freelancer all the time for website coding. But the money I saved was wasted in time spent on do-overs, translation, time zone differences, etc.
Total disaster.
IT and computer programmers can join the large and illustrious club of industries that have been swallowed up by the outsourcing/offshoring monster.
Our mantra is: if someone in the world will do it cheaper than you can, then you are considered expendable, damn the consequences.
This has been going on for over forty years, and computer trades are only the latest casualty. And people wonder why anyone under forty won’t go anywhere near STEM careers. They are literally financial suicide for young career seekers.
Seriously, how do you compete against third world workers who are in industries heavily subsidized by communist regimes, and financed by first world financial interests?
You don’t.
I’m pretty sure we already have off shored our government, the whole congress AND the white house.
Congress should just pass a law that makes earning a decent living illegal.
It is amazing how terrible Americans treat each other.
Object oriented code libraries with reusable code modules will also decrease the need for NEW code, though people to string it together for new purposes are still needed.
I worked in three industries over the last 25 years, and in all three cases I lost my job due the company going bankrupt, and then being sold to a foreign interest. And in all three interests, the demise of the company was fomented from within. Care to guess which three?
The skills mismatch Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs fame discusses comes to mind.
Lots of unemployed college graduates with degrees in liberal arts, or worse, no degree but 50K in debt. And there are millions of skilled trade jobs that pay middle class wages but no one went into welding, plumbing, CNC programming, semi-conducter manufacturing, etc because it isn’t cool and they were actively dissuaded from it or never even heard of the job fields.
Many in management would ask if that was a trick question before immediately choosing option number 2.
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