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HuffPost Touts “Economic Benefits” of a $2.9 trillion annual tax hike on Fossil Fuels
wattsupwiththat.com/ ^ | December 20, 2015 | Eric Worrall

Posted on 12/21/2015 6:54:06 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Huffington Post has a plan to address the as yet unanswered question of who will foot the bill, for the renewable transformation green advocates want, in the wake of the Paris COP21 agreement. HuffPost’s suggestion is a $2.9 trillion rise in annual taxes on fossil fuels.

How Can We Pay for the New Energy Economy?

Many a great idea has been deflated by a simple question: “That’s nice, but who’s going to pay for it?” That question hovered like a cloud over the international climate conference in Paris a week ago. Simply put, the goal of the agreement at that conference is to build a world in which we achieve and sustain universal prosperity without plummeting into a future of irreversible climate catastrophe. It’s a great goal, but who is going to pay for it?

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Fossil Energy Subsidies: Some government subsidies go to energy consumers and some to energy producers. Some are direct – tax breaks, for example – and some are indirect “post tax” subsidies, including the social and environmental costs of using fossil fuels. According to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), direct and indirect subsidies around the world are expected to total $5.3 trillion this year.

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The IMF notes that the benefits of reforming fossil energy subsidies are “potentially enormous”. “Eliminating post-tax subsidies in 2015 could raise government revenue by $2.9 trillion (3.6% of global GDP), cut global CO2 emissions by more than 20% and cut premature air pollution deaths by more than half,” it says.

In addition, Huffpost thinks we should place an unspecified price on CO2.

Putting a Price on Carbon: The principal reason that climate change has become the world’s biggest market failure is that the energy market’s price signals are broken. Government subsidies keep energy prices artificially low. Moreover, the prices we pay at the pump and electric meter do not include the cost of damages that carbon fuels do to public health, the environment and so on.

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The most common argument against carbon pricing is that it would kill jobs and cripple the economy, but actual experience shows this is not necessarily the case. One example is found in the nine U.S. states whose carbon trading I cited above. Between 2009 and 2013, their economies reportedly grew more than 9% compared to 8.8% in the other 41 states, while their combined carbon emissions dropped 14%. The net economic benefit to the region’s economy was $1.3 billion.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-s-becker/how-can-we-pay-for-the-ne_b_8845586.html

Taxing our way to prosperity – the green solution to the global climate “crisis”.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antifracking; climatechange; energy; epa; fracking; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; methane; opec; petroleum; popefrancis; putinsbuttboys; romancatholicism; taxes; vladtheimploder
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1 posted on 12/21/2015 6:54:06 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Is it time to start locking liberals in cages yet?


2 posted on 12/21/2015 6:56:33 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Let the little people pay for it.


3 posted on 12/21/2015 6:57:09 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("We are not a nation of immigrants. We are a nation of citizens." -- Mark Levin)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Ping.


4 posted on 12/21/2015 7:00:20 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The wealthy globalists certainly won’t feel the pinch.


5 posted on 12/21/2015 7:00:53 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: tumblindice
Is it time to start locking liberals in cages yet?

We're about forty years late on just locking them in cages.

6 posted on 12/21/2015 7:03:25 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Leave it to liberals to come up with hair brained schemes and fuzzy math. Taxes on everything, especially anything that has to do with fuel(or cigarettes and booze.) Just tax the crap out of the ‘’rich people’’ and then give it to the ‘’poor people’’ and....(wait for it..) No one is any richer and most folks are still poor or fast approaching it.


7 posted on 12/21/2015 7:08:44 PM PST by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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fyi


8 posted on 12/21/2015 7:10:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Taxing our way to prosperity

Haha!

That's like drinking your way to sobriety.

9 posted on 12/21/2015 7:14:53 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Those morons don’t realize that the money comes out of hardworking Americans’ pockets.


10 posted on 12/21/2015 7:19:29 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They will destroy the market and plunge the world into darkness if they are not stopped.


11 posted on 12/21/2015 7:49:58 PM PST by o_1_2_3__ ( –)
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To: Flycatcher

Some years back someone asked this: When was the last time a nation taxed itself to prosperity? It’s like standing in a bucket & trying to lift yourself by the handle.


12 posted on 12/21/2015 8:00:45 PM PST by oldtech
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Those carbon taxes will be wasted by the left. Today’s WSJ had an article on how companies which promised to develop biofuels that the Obama administration touted and gave our tax money to fared over the past 7 years.

Two or three got grants or subsidized loans ranging from 50 million to 100 million to make green fuel from grass, yeast or algae. None could compete with carbon based gas or diesel prices.

So they gave up and are trying to sell upscale green oil products like skin cream @ $50 for 3 0z. or cooking oil @ $18 for 16 oz. Not much of a business plan for all that wasted tax money.


13 posted on 12/21/2015 8:16:46 PM PST by RicocheT (Only a few prefer liberty--the majority seek nothing more than fair masters. Sallust, Histories)
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To: tumblindice

I’m Speechless, the jerks are unbelievable.


14 posted on 12/21/2015 9:04:19 PM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We busted our butts, working unreal hours bringing one heck of a lot of new production online, to the point many of us worked ourselves out of a job, and these mother effers want to strip America of the benefits of that?

How about they cut the budget instead, starting with their own stinking jobs?

15 posted on 12/21/2015 10:25:21 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Ernest.


16 posted on 12/22/2015 1:36:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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Thanks Ernest.

17 posted on 12/22/2015 5:34:38 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yes, I agree with eliminating actual energy subsidies for ALL forms of energy, but I would also have much lower taxes on energy companies (and all other businesses).

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18 posted on 12/22/2015 8:58:58 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Terrorism, the thing that shall not be named by the MSM)
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19 posted on 12/22/2015 9:05:11 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Terrorism, the thing that shall not be named by the MSM)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

One example is found in the nine U.S. states whose carbon trading I cited above. Between 2009 and 2013, their economies reportedly grew more than 9% compared to 8.8% in the other 41 states, while their combined carbon emissions dropped 14%. The net economic benefit to the region’s economy was $1.3 billion.

Where is the peer reviewed science?

Really, no other factors for this growth? How exactly did it contribute to the growth? Federal money?


20 posted on 12/23/2015 5:35:52 AM PST by dila813
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