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Christmas Message to Unbelievers: Just Take the Bet!
Townhall.com ^ | December 21, 2015 | Joy Overbeck

Posted on 12/21/2015 10:35:50 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 12/21/2015 10:35:50 AM PST by Kaslin
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Bump for later.


2 posted on 12/21/2015 10:38:10 AM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Kaslin

Good article, but two typographical errors:

1. 46, not 36 chromosomes

2. Santa’s name is spelled “Claus” not “Clause.” (However, his elves may accurately be called “subordinate clauses.”)


3 posted on 12/21/2015 10:48:50 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: Kaslin

Good article, but two typographical errors:

1. 46, not 36 chromosomes

2. Santa’s name is spelled “Claus” not “Clause.” (However, his elves may accurately be called “subordinate clauses.”)


4 posted on 12/21/2015 10:49:05 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: Kaslin

Amen, Kaslin, another excellent article. Merry Christmas, FRiend.


5 posted on 12/21/2015 10:53:44 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support the troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Kaslin

Amen and amen.


6 posted on 12/21/2015 10:59:01 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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To: paterfamilias

Some do spell it with a ‘e’ at the end, but Claus is correct. Santa is not a clause


7 posted on 12/21/2015 10:59:33 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: xzins

Amen and Merry Christmas to you too, Friend.


8 posted on 12/21/2015 11:01:03 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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What if coming to Christ completely tears your life apart and sets you at odds with family, friends, job, etc.? What if it brings an upheaval and lack of “success”? Is it still worth taking a bet?

Why do I have Steve Taylor’s I WANT TO BE A CLONE ringing in my ears?


9 posted on 12/21/2015 11:07:16 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Kaslin

Great article! Thanks for posting!!


10 posted on 12/21/2015 11:08:05 AM PST by TXBlair (We will not forget Benghazi.)
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(However, his elves may accurately be called “subordinate clauses.”)

that was so clever, it bore repeating...


11 posted on 12/21/2015 11:09:19 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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12 posted on 12/21/2015 11:13:37 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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Ask them “If I am wrong and there is no God, no Heaven, no hell, what have I lost? But if you are wrong, and there IS a God, a Heaven and a hell, what have YOU lost?”


13 posted on 12/21/2015 11:22:01 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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Ask them “If I am wrong and there is no God, no Heaven, no hell, what have I lost? But if you are wrong, and there IS a God, a Heaven and a hell, what have YOU lost?”

Pascal's wager.

14 posted on 12/21/2015 11:30:07 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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The fundamental fallacy is that precisely the same argument could be offered for an utterly different and incompatible conclusion (e.g. “If the Buddha got it all wrong and you become worm food instead of having the pains of existence dissolved away in Nirvana, no harm no foul” or “If the Koran is just some bronze-age kooky rantings and you become worm food instead of getting your 72 virgins, no harm no foul” or whatever).


15 posted on 12/21/2015 12:25:37 PM PST by Gandalf the Mauve
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And completely ignoring the even larger problem, e.g. “Hey there, I love you. I really do. What do you say, wanna hop in bed?”
With the problem being, G_d is way smarter than a blonde sorority tart.

In fact He’s omniscient ... with the possible exception that He does not know what is engraved in the human heart.
But if you grant that, than you must accept that He is not omniscient.

So `Pascal’s Wager’ is problematic, as well as more than a little meretricious.


16 posted on 12/21/2015 12:53:30 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Gandalf the Mauve

I believe Jesus is the Way and that every other way is not. My beef is with silly approaches to evangelism. The old drunk at the mission, when asked if he wanted to accept Christ, was onto something: “No thanks, I have enough problems already!”

Stepping from darkness into the Truth can be earth shattering for a person. So often believing in Christ sounds like all the other junk people do and say “My life has improved 1000% since and all my problems are a thing of the past.”

Christians should just preach the Gospel and trust God to save people through it, no matter how good or bad it seems to turn out afterwards. Jesus is attractive to the downcast and poor in spirit.


17 posted on 12/21/2015 1:12:16 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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“What if it brings an upheaval and lack of “success”? Is it still worth taking a bet?”

What do you value more? Fleeting success or eternal rewards?


18 posted on 12/21/2015 1:23:53 PM PST by Boogieman
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Agreed. It’s THE better choice of all possible choices in this life. Regardless.


19 posted on 12/21/2015 2:41:09 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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What if coming to Christ completely tears your life apart and sets you at odds with family, friends, job, etc.? What if it brings on upheaval and lack of "success"?

Then you're doing it right, according to the Bible.

20 posted on 12/22/2015 10:35:43 AM PST by Tax-chick (Maximizing my cultural appropriation.)
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