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How an angry tirade led to the investigation of a top Special Operations general
WaPo, via Stars & Stripes ^ | December 18, 2015 | Dan Lamothe

Posted on 12/19/2015 6:39:00 AM PST by Timber Rattler

Army Lt. Gen. John Mulholland was apoplectic. Seated at the head of a table in a staff meeting, the veteran Special Operations general was furious that a briefing for him at U.S. Special Operations Command did not follow the directions that he and the top officer in the command, Adm. William McRaven, had provided.

In a profanity-laced tirade, Mulhulland told the staff members they had "all failed me" as a commander, and they should all go "shoot themselves right now," according to later accounts of the meeting. He promised that if they tried to brief their work to McRaven he would do everything he could to mess it up.

Mulholland, SOCOM's deputy commander at the time, added that he knew he was being unprofessional, but they had angered him greatly, according to a retelling by one witness in the room on April 30, 2014. The general added that if they briefed their plans to McRaven, he would commit Seppuku, an honorable way for a Samurai warrior to commit suicide through disembowelment in ancient Japan.

The outburst at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Fla., is detailed in a Defense Department Inspector General report released to The Washington Post. At least 30 people were present, including then-Maj. Gen. James Laster, a Marine who was SOCOM's chief of staff at the time. Also present were a one-star Australian general and numerous American colonels. At least two individuals subjected to the tirade later filed a complaint with the Inspector General's office, and several others confirmed the facts of the case to be true.

(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; socom; usarmy
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Patton would have never made it in today's Army...
1 posted on 12/19/2015 6:39:00 AM PST by Timber Rattler
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Patton would have never made it in today's Army...

He wasn't wanted back in WWII either. But, he was desparately needed, so he was called to duty.

He wouldn't be called to duty today because he isn't needed like he was back then.
However, if things got tough enough: "Let George do it."

2 posted on 12/19/2015 6:44:13 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Timber Rattler

I’m strange. I think that if the top guy is unhappy, he has a right to yell at people, swear, and make threats.

Motivation through fear is certainly not the best course of action. But it should not be taken off the table entirely. Sometimes, yelling at people is effective. If you’re pissed, show it.

Or else we can gather in a group hug, give everyone a trophy and talk about our feelings.

The military is about breaking things and killing people. Sometimes, passion comes in handy.


3 posted on 12/19/2015 6:45:08 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (I don't know what Claire Wolfe is thinking but I know what I am thinking.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Why all the crying?


4 posted on 12/19/2015 6:45:14 AM PST by The Toll
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To: Timber Rattler

His overly sensitive staff needs a safe space to retreat to next time the mean General hurts their feelings.


5 posted on 12/19/2015 6:45:57 AM PST by ApeStyle
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To: Timber Rattler
Too bad. I personally know LTG Mulholland. Years ago we both served in the 5th SFGA together at FT Bragg. John also led TF Dagger that employed the first SF teams that took down the Taliban in 2001/2 with 150 Green Berets and the Special Ops Air Component.

He can be gruff at times (all warriors can) but hell, that is part of being a Commander. I'm certain much of this ado was for show and certain folks just took it wrong. Then again, this might be the military of today where perfume princess officers get offended easily.

6 posted on 12/19/2015 6:51:54 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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Not everyone present at the meeting was happy to see the Pentagon launch an investigation. According to the report, some of those present did not think he crossed a line, especially in an intimate setting of "his guys."

Laster, who has since become the three-star director of Marine Corps Staff at the Pentagon, said he, too, admonished the staff members. He also recalled that Mulholland grew angrier when lower-ranking officers tried to argue with him.

McRaven retired in August 2014, and was replaced by Army Gen. Joseph Votel.

I dunno, a little insubordination evidently was present, and that set the general off.

These junior officers should thank their lucky stars they were not in the German High Command around 1944-45.

7 posted on 12/19/2015 6:52:04 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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This doesn’t speak very well of Spec Ops staff.....


8 posted on 12/19/2015 6:52:51 AM PST by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: Timber Rattler

The tradition of ‘dressing down’ ones troops is no longer politically correct in this peacekeeping war-against-climate-change police state.


9 posted on 12/19/2015 6:53:07 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: mosaicwolf

Decades ago, in the shade of a Louisiana scrub-pine, a Drill Sergeant spoke unkind words to me. I’ve been in counseling ever since...


10 posted on 12/19/2015 6:55:57 AM PST by donozark (Herbicides improve visibility.)
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His overly sensitive staff needs a safe space to retreat to next time the mean General hurts their feelings.

It's all become a whine and jeez party.

11 posted on 12/19/2015 6:57:43 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are. Go Ted.)
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To: exit82

LTG was probably a little off base telling them to go shoot themselves, which I actually find kind of funny. However, the officers on his staff are supposed to push back when they think the skipper is wrong or misguided. It seems that the mistake they may have made was to do it in the group venue. That kind of stuff you do after the meeting...


12 posted on 12/19/2015 6:59:58 AM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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Mulholland told investigators that he was angry with the lack of detail in the briefing, which McRaven had requested after expressing dissatisfaction with a related meeting earlier in the month. The operational planning team involved was ordered to develop a plan to integrate 14 foreign liaison officers into SOCOM's staff planning and execution of operations.

IOW, his staff FAILED him twice over a plan that could hardly be called rocket surgery to develop. I would have been ready to shoot the incompetent bastards too.

I'd lay money on the bet that a female or some homo staffer got their panties in a twist and went crying to the IG.

Not sure why Mulholland felt compelled to even respond to "investigators". He should have told them to GFY as they were being escorted off of the CIA premisis.

13 posted on 12/19/2015 7:00:26 AM PST by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: donozark

That right there is funny. Been there, had that done to me too, by a crusty old CPO. Thanks for the chuckle.


14 posted on 12/19/2015 7:02:02 AM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Not sure about the “facts” in this story. Pretty sure that at the time this happened McRaven was running JSOC.


15 posted on 12/19/2015 7:02:04 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("It gets late early around here..." Yogi)
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To: donozark

Several Drill Sergeants Ft. Leonard Wood said hurtful words to me when I was in Basic and AIT, and I still shudder at the micro-aggression.


16 posted on 12/19/2015 7:02:32 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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To: donozark
Decades ago, in the shade of a Louisiana scrub-pine, a Drill Sergeant spoke unkind words to me.

There is something about that hat that does seem to cause consequences! Ft Polk I presume?

17 posted on 12/19/2015 7:03:16 AM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Timber Rattler

Never had a beat down by any one above O-6, but I have know some E-9’s who could melt the brass off your belt buckle. I always figured that if I was all that it would be me up there giving the “dissertation on incompetence” so I usually just took it to heart and did my sniveling alone, where no one could see me.


18 posted on 12/19/2015 7:04:12 AM PST by jstaff
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To: ClearCase_guy

Consider that it has been in the News lately that the Intel is being manipulated by the White House and that there are people at Centcom complaining about it.

Hypothesis: Adm McRaven has been the SPECOM leader for a while now. Being a 4-star his career is effectively over and so HE can’t be intimidated politically. However, a deputy 3-star looking for that last star?


19 posted on 12/19/2015 7:06:36 AM PST by Tallguy
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Decades ago, in the shade of a Louisiana scrub-pine, a Drill Sergeant spoke unkind words to me.

What? A DI??? Nowadays, they're all trained as Rogerian therapists.

20 posted on 12/19/2015 7:06:47 AM PST by IronJack
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