Mr. "I am in charge now" screwed up on this...His Crewz won't accept it, but he did.
Luke I am your father, not Trump!!! (c) > m2t
Posted on 12/17/2015 7:40:06 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans
TLDR.
CRUZ fought the Gang of 8. Rubio was a Co-sponsor. I watched Cruz fight and win against the establishment, it was amazing. Cruz is a fighter, and a leader and he’s against amnesty.
GO CRUZ!!
Cruz fought amnesty. Period.
Trump has supported “a path” for illegals as recently as this summer.
Mr. "I am in charge now" screwed up on this...His Crewz won't accept it, but he did.
Luke I am your father, not Trump!!! (c) > m2t
tl;dr
No he didn’t and your revisionist history and opinion are totally worthless drivel Doughboy.
Yes, a problem in that Cruz lied. As so many of us have stated over and over again, Cruz supports amnesty through legalization. Good it is now front and center for all to see. Tied that to his long standing call for 500% increase in H1B, is is no different than Rubio or Bush.
Mike Lee: Suggestion Ted Cruz Supported ‘Gang of Eight’ Amnesty ‘100 Percent False’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3373962/posts
I’ll talk to you guys about this the first week of January.
Go head and live the dream...
At least until he changes his mind again.
But it was like pulling teeth to get him to say it clearly. And, I don't think he's a believer.
End of story.
But as I clearly explain:
Gang of Eight Amnesty is not the same thing as Legalization after Border Enforcement.
Had the bill been amended, THEN the Gang of Eight bill would have been equal to "legalization after border enforcement."
Rubio/Santorum and Lee/Cruz et al., are having two different debates.
Your posting record here SHOUTS what you’re up to, and anyone who has the literacy of a ghetto first grader can figure it out.
Instead of lying he could have simply said he changed his position, for whatever reason he believes would be palatable.
It would be behind him in a day or two.
Instead he reveals a character flaw.
Jeff Sessions: “Cruz stood with me”
The Howie Carr Show ^
Posted on 12/17/2015 4:31:50 PM by dschapin
Please listen to Jeff Sessions defense of Ted Cruz on the Howie Carr Show today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Nnt_obTRM&feature=youtu.be
Brilliant post.
I ask, since Cruz and Trump are now virtually indistinguishable in their current policy respecting immigration/amnesty/citizenship, why all the drama? I ask, why is it so significant that Cruz has been economical with the truth, if he has , respecting his intentions concerning amnesty as opposed to citizenship? Why is this when applied to Cruz so damning when we have a biography of ideological flip-flops by Donald Trump that stagger the imagination?
Why are Donald Trump's recently acquired intentions which conform to conservatism the end of the subject but Ted Cruz's peccadillo about the meaning of his fight to kill that hated Gang of Eight bill so damning?
Here is that reply:
On Immigration, Cruz Aims for Middle Ground
12/17/2015, 5:26:39 AM · 37 of 58
nathanbedford to Greetings_Puny_Humans
Cruz has recently moved to a position very close to Trump on removing illegal immigrants in our midst. He follows the Romney pattern of self deportation combined with vigorous enforcement of deportation laws, prohibition of sanctuary cities, cutting off benefits, tightening up the border, and the apparent elimination of H1B visas and other provisions which facilitate widespread immigration.
Cruz defends his position on not calling for the deportation of illegal immigrants at the time of the struggle over the Gang of Eight amnesty/ citizenship bill, as a legislative maneuver. I have no doubt it was a legislative maneuver but Cruz had also made remarks to the effect that there should be a way for illegals to "come out of the shadows" etc. I think Cruz has changed his views to a point where he is rock solid today on immigrants in our midst.
I think Cruz has been less than honest in denying that he was favoring a kind of amnesty back at that time when that was a major victory because the political climate was calling for citizenship. As a matter of political calculation, Cruz tried to have the issue both ways. After all, there is a dimension beyond the economic cost of illegal immigrants, it is their ability to vote once they attain citizenship (and sanctuary states the ability to vote illegally). Given the political culture at the time, Cruz and Sessions behaved the way legislators have fought since time immemorial.
Trump's intervention concededly changed the entire debate so that deportation of illegals became an acceptable and achievable goal beyond denying citizenship. Trump changed the political climate and Cruz changed his position. I would be more comfortable if Cruz simply said so rather than tap dancing.
On balance, one can way the number and degree of flip-flops committed by Donald Trump in his biography against these questionable allegations now being dredged up against Cruz and there is really no equivalence, Trump's whole biography is a gigantic ego trip of flip-flops.
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