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Judicial Watch: New Benghazi Email Shows DOD Offered State “Forces that Could Move to Benghaziâ€
Judicial Watch ^
| December 8th, 2015
| Unattributed Press Release
Posted on 12/08/2015 11:01:01 PM PST by Mariner
(Washington, DC) â Judicial Watch today released a new Benghazi email from then-Department of Defense Chief of Staff Jeremy Bash to State Department leadership immediately offering âforces that could move to Benghaziâ during the terrorist attack on the U.S. Special Mission Compound in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012. In an email sent to top Department of State officials, at 7:19 p.m. ET, only hours after the attack had begun, Bash says, âwe have identified the forces that could move to Benghazi. They are spinning up as we speak.â The Obama administration redacted the details of the military forces available, oddly citing a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) exemption that allows the withholding of âdeliberative processâ information.
Bashâs email seems to directly contradict testimony given by then-Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta before the Senate Armed Services Committee in February 2013. Defending the Obama administrationâs lack of military response to the nearly six-hour-long attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Panetta claimed that âtime, distance, the lack of an adequate warning, events that moved very quickly on the ground prevented a more immediate response.â
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I stick to my original hypothesis.
Both Clinton and Obama were drunk and unavailable.
Military could not move without authorization.
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posted on
12/08/2015 11:01:01 PM PST
by
Mariner
To: Mariner
Yet another obama debacle.
This time, fine men died.
To: All
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posted on
12/08/2015 11:06:04 PM PST
by
musicman
(Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
To: Mariner
Drugs being consumed by both ?
Military Scramble Order Overseas, How They Work First, I've got over 26 years working in military control towers, most of them as the watch supervisor/crew chief on duty.
Scrambling aircraft to respond to urgent situations normally starts at the
North American Aerospace Defense Command.
The scramble order comes down through a secured phone call on a direct line.
In the attack on the U.S. embassy on Benghazi, the drone control would have been from
MacDill AFB, FL, by
U.S. Central Command, and would have been in direct contact, or maybe even remote control to the situation room in the White House.
Watch this 4 minute 48 second video
Inside the Situation Room.
The pResident SHOULD HAVE issued to order to scramble fighters to Benghazi, to get there in minimum time.
Then he SHOULD HAVE issued a second order scrambling AC-130 gunships to respond to Benghazi, and have them stand by for more orders.
This should have been controlled by the pResident, who should have monitored and responded with guidance from
his Situation Room,
staffed by men and women from the Department of Homeland Security, the intelligence community, and the military,
all of whom are committed to ensuring that the President of the United States is provided all the information and intelligence he needs to do his job.
Read
Here's one more piece of information.
WHO GAVE THE STAND DOWN ORDER?
That is THE QUESTION,
and if you know anything about government security and government intelligence,you know that the ONLY person that has that authority is OBAMA!
Hillary is there to divert attention FROM THAT QUESTION.
Like
Rush said:
" I'll tell you what happened today was, what I call, what others call, the ruling class, the political elite SAW a vulnerability.
Any time a ranking member of the government who is already in the protected class, which is the Democrat Party, is in the cross-hairs,
they're gonna circle the wagons and protect that person because they're protecting themselves.
And they're protecting the institution of the government, in this case the State Department.
They are not gonna permit a black eye.
The purpose of this, not only to cleanse Hillary and her record and setting up her future,
but this was about cleansing the oversight people and cleansing everybody in Congress,from the Senate or whatever that was supposed to make sure this kind of stuff didn't happen and held people accountable,
that didn't happen.
This was circle the wagons time and put on a dog and pony showto MAKE THE PEOPLE THINK it's been dealt with. "
Now we know that
Obama was in the room watching Benghazi attack live.
I know from experience in the government (over 30 years) that the communication system allows for IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION to the SITUATION ROOM,
as well as other agencies, of notification of a critical situation such as this.
I'm sure technology has changed and only gotten better since I retired, but read
this with focus on
FLASH OVERRIDE and
FLASH.
The U.S. military also used the letters, relabeled, in their now defunct Autovon phone system.[3] Here they were used before dialing the phone in order to give some calls priority, cutting in over existing calls if need be. The idea was to allow important traffic to get through every time. The levels of priority available were Flash Override (A), Flash (B), Immediate (C), and Priority (D), with Flash Override being the highest priority. Pressing one of these keys gave your call priority, overriding other conversations on the network. Pressing C, Immediate, before dialing would make the switch first look for any free lines, and if all lines were in use, it would disconnect any non-priority calls, and then any priority calls. Flash Override will kick every other call off the trunks between the origin and destination. Consequently, it was limited to the White House Communications Agency. Precedence dialing is still done on the military phone networks, but using number combinations (Example: Entering 93 before a number is a priority call) rather than the separate tones and the Government Emergency Telecommunications Service has superseded Autovon for any civilian priority telco access.
Present-day uses of the A, B, C and D keys on telephone networks are few, and exclusive to network control. For example, the A key is used on some networks to cycle through different carriers at will (thereby listening in on calls). Their use is probably prohibited by most carriers. The A, B, C and D tones are used in radio phone patch and repeater operations to allow, among other uses, control of the repeater while connected to an active phone line.
The *, #, A, B, C and D keys are still widely used worldwide by Amateur radio operators for repeater control, remote-base operations and VOIP-based communications systems.
DTMF tones are also used by some cable television networks and radio networks to signal the local cable company/network station to insert a local advertisement or station identification. These tones were often heard during a station ID preceding a local ad insert. Previously, terrestrial television stations also used DTMF tones to shut off and turn on remote transmitters.
DTMF signaling tones can also be heard at the start or end of some VHS (Video Home System) cassette tapes. Information on the master version of the video tape is encoded in the DTMF tone. The encoded tone provides information to automatic duplication machines, such as format, duration and volume levels, in order to replicate the original video as closely as possible.
DTMF tones are sometimes used in caller ID systems to transfer the caller ID information, however in the USA only Bell 202 modulated FSK signaling is used to transfer the data.
There is more you need to read.
The Pundit Press has videos worth watching at
"Under God" Removed By Obama During Inauguration Pledge.
Read
"Under God" Removed By Obama During Inaguration Pledge on Free Republic with all its comments, and know that
we were warned of this.
This has been
planned for a VERY LONG TIME.
Obama is solely responsible for this.
Hillary claimed No Knowledge of gun running
and told Rand Paul he needed to ask the CIA.
Let's look at some of the facts.
Obama Arranged Benghazi Trip That Resulted In Murder Of US AMB Chris Stevens
Arms Flow to Syria May Be Behind Benghazi Cover-Up states: " During the 2011 Libyan revolt against Muammar Qaddafi, reckless U.S. policy flung American forces and money into the conflict on the side of the rebels, who were known at the time to include Al Qaeda elements. Previously the number two official at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, Christopher Stevens was named as the official U.S. liaison to the Libyan opposition in March, 2011.
Stevens was tasked with helping to coordinate U.S. assistance to the rebels, whose top military commander, Abdelhakim Belhadj, was the leader of the Al Qaeda affiliate, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). That means that Stevens was authorized by the U.S. Department of State and the Obama administration to aid and abet individuals and groups that were, at a minimum, allied ideologically with Al Qaeda, the jihadist terrorist organization that attacked the homeland on the first 9/11, the one thats not supposed to exist anymore after the killing of its leader, Osama bin Laden, on May 2, 2011. "
Obama the arms broker to al-Qaeda states [this article is also well worth your time] : " Now we learn that Ambassador Chris Stevens’s mission in Benghazi on that fatal day was to organize the shipment of arms to the rebel militias in Syria.
And that means: the shipment of arms, by order of the President of the United States, to al-Qaeda,the terrorist organization which the President himself constantly declares to be the enemy of his country.
No wonder President Obama, Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the rest of the stoats and weasels have been lying their heads off and trying to put the blame for the whole hideous and tragic episode – for what amounts to an act of war – on somebody’s little video. Scraping the bottom of the excuses-barrel.
The evidence suggests that the Obama administration has not simply been engaging, legitimating, enriching and emboldening Islamists who have now taken over or are ascendant in much of the Middle East.
Starting in March 2011, when American diplomat Christopher Stevens was designated the liaison to the “opposition” in Libya, the Obama administration has been arming them, including jihadists like Abdelhakim Belhadj, the leader of the al Qaeda franchise known as the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group. "
SOURCES: SLAIN U.S. AMBASSADOR RECRUITED JIHADISTS
Egyptian officials say Stevens worked with Saudis against Assad
Was Syrian weapons shipment factor in ambassadors Benghazi visit? states: " Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar, which means "The Victory," was received in the Turkish port of Iskenderun -- 35 miles from the Syrian border -- on Sept. 6, just five days before Ambassador Chris Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith and former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed
On the night of Sept. 11, in what would become his last known public meeting, Stevens met with the Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin, and escorted him out of the consulate front gate one hour before the assault began at approximately 9:35 p.m. local time.
the timing and the meeting between the Turkish diplomat and Stevens was "unusual."
According to an initial Sept. 14 report by the Times of London, Al Entisar was carrying 400 tons of cargo.
The cargo reportedly included surface-to-air anti-aircraft missiles, RPG's and Russian-designed shoulder-launched missiles known as MANPADS.
It was reported there was a fight about the weapons and who got what "between the free Syrian Army and the Muslim Brotherhood."
' The point is that both of these weapons systems are extremely accurate and very simple to use,' Fox News military analyst Col. David Hunt explained. He said the passage of weapons from Libya to Syria would escalate the conflict. ' With a short amount of instruction, you've got somebody capable of taking down any, any aircraft. Anywhere in the world. '
"
Rebel Arms Flow Is Said to Benefit Jihadists in Syria by New York Times
Why Libya Cover-Up: Obama Was Arming Al Qaeda & Islamists
Libya's missing weapons being smuggled into Gaza
Israeli intelligence is increasingly concerned about the quantity of Libyan arms flowing into Gaza.
Clinton asked for more security in Benghazi, Obama said no
How U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked to Jihadist Rebels in Syria (And It Involves Weapons) [Article has many links.]
Ed Klein: Bill Clinton encouraged Hillary to resign in the wake of the Benghazi scandal
Explain this: Ambassador Chris Stevens killed due to lack of security Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett gets Secret Service
Libyan Officials Claim US Was Warned 3 DAYS BEFORE Deadly Benghazi Consulate Attack
More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments from CNN states: " Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security.
Jamal Mabrouk, a member of the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he and a battalion commander had a meeting about the economy and security.
He said they told the diplomats that the security situation wasn't good for international business.
'The situation is frightening, it scares us,' Mabrouk said they told the U.S. officials. He did not say how they responded.
Mabrouk said it was not the first time he has warned foreigners about the worsening security situation in the face of the growing presence of armed jihadist groups in the Benghazi area. "
Guard at consulate in Libya says attack was coordinated
Egypt intelligence warns of attacks on Israel, US embassies
Blame Obama for Chris Stevens' murder
Backed by Barack Hussein Obama, Muslim Brotherhood gets ready to overthrow U.S.-ally King of Jordan
Obama Bypasses Congress, Gives $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood
ALDRICH: Hillary Clintons abominable national security record
History of incompetence and dangerous decisions
Obama not subject to charges of treason?
Benghazi: Symbol of Obama's Leadership
Obama Admits He Is A Muslim
So, let us remember.
Muslims are well know for lying about their faith.MUSLIMS are allowed to LIE and deceive NON MUSLIMS, if it benefits or protects ISLAM. Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."
Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.
Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"
Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"
Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
For a better understanding of the issue, read
HISTORY of Mohammed ( spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc. ). then watch William Federer explain it, from Jan. 25, 2012 at CC Chino Hills, CA. It's a MUST WATCH for everyone,Christians, Athiests and even Muslims!
As retired military myself, I've seen the damage of "keeping secrets" about bad leaders.
Obama is EVIL, pure and simple.
Please watch
Glenn Beck with Trevor Loudon & his book "Barack Obama and the Enemies Within".
Then watch the 29 minute 13 seconds video
Trevor Loudon- An Urgent (and chilling) Message for America.
Barack Obama and the Enemies Within
Obama may be
feigning "incompetence," thinking he's too sly, being a "
wolf in sheep's clothing" since his mentoring was from
Fabian Fascism..
Remember:" The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked : who can know it? "
The
"Establishment Republicans" will probably NOT want to IMPEACH the TREASONIST Barack Hussein Obama II.
But it's better for the country that Obama suffer the penalty, the strongest penalty for his actions, and his inactions.
Let's look at the
Presidential Oaths of Office.
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States,
and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Now who among us really believes Obama did any of that ?
To Obama, that was
"Just words. Just speeches! "Damn him ! Damn him to hell !
I'll finish this with asking you to read
Watch the 18 minute 56 second documentary video
"Absolutely Uncertain" at
"theBLAZE.com" or on
YouTube.com, narrated by Irina, the 23-year-old Jewish New Yorker and a former Obama supporter .
One other suggestion, read
DID OBAMA WANT STEVENS DEAD? The language is a little abrasive, but spot on. Also read:
How U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked to Jihadist Rebels in Syria(And It Involves Weapons)
October 19, 2012
WASHINGTON, DC – SEPTEMBER 14: Intern Chris Jobson (R) and press assistant Isaiah Calvin (L) of Senate Democratic Media Center sign condolence book for Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens at the U.S. Capitol September 14, 2012 in Washington, DC.
This article by Michael Kelley originally appeared on Business Insider.
Read and watch all the videos from
Could assets have reached Benghazi in time to save lives? [Ret. Lt Gen Boykin-Huckabee] and especially
comment #44 and
comment #57.
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posted on
12/08/2015 11:11:21 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Mariner
Those sons of bitches had forces ready to go. But Obama and Hilary did NOT GIVE THE GO AHEAD.
The POTUS and SOS have no time that they cannot be reached. There is no way possible. That would be dereliction of duty. You are to be called upon 24/7. Doesn’t matter what they were doing.
At best dereliction of duty. At worst high treason.
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posted on
12/08/2015 11:11:33 PM PST
by
FreedomStar3028
(Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
To: Mariner
The Email that President Pussy and Hillary ignored and hid from the American People reads as follows:
From: Bash, Jeremy CIV SD [REDACTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:19 PM
To: Sullivan, Jacob J; Sherman, Wendy R; Nides, Thomas R
Cc: Miller, James HON OSD POLICY; Wienefeld, James A ADM JSC VCJCS; Kelly, John LtGen SD; martin, dempsey [REDACTED]
Subject: Libya
State colleagues:
I just tried you on the phone but you were all in with S [apparent reference to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton].
After consulting with General Dempsey, General Ham and the Joint Staff, we have identified the forces that could move to Benghazi. They are spinning up as we speak. They include a [REDACTED].
Assuming Principals agree to deploy these elements, we will ask State to procure the approval from host nation. Please advise how you wish to convey that approval to us [REDACTED].
Jeremy
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posted on
12/08/2015 11:13:51 PM PST
by
Chgogal
(Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
To: Yosemitest
All that clutter detracts from a very important, single email.
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posted on
12/08/2015 11:18:48 PM PST
by
Mariner
(War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
To: Mariner
FACTS are FACTS, and the FACTS ARE LINKED TO, in that comment !
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posted on
12/08/2015 11:29:11 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Yosemitest
What difference does it make?-—Hillary
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posted on
12/08/2015 11:46:23 PM PST
by
Calpublican
(McConnell=Traitorous Chinless Wonder/Ryan=Boehner Redux)
To: Yosemitest
Lot of information!
Thank you for the education, bookmarked for further study.
Slowly but surely the truth is seeing the light of day.
I am not so clueless to think we will ever get enough to put anyone in prison because, as you say, the wagons have been circled and the Offender in Chief is well protected.
Hopefully in 50 or 60 years the full truth will come out.
If we last that long.
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posted on
12/08/2015 11:47:00 PM PST
by
oldvirginian
(American by birth, Southern by the grace of a loving God and Virginian because Jesus loves me.)
To: Mariner
its worse then that!....there was no response because it was supposed to be a bloodless kidnapping.....Trade the Ambassador for the blind shiek or some Gitmo boys and make Obama a “hero” just before the election....The problem was...when they met “unauthorized resistance” the kidnappers felt double-crossed and killed the Ambassador!.....Now the Administration has a problem.....No one to trade.....Enter Beau Bergdahl..and the rest is history...
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posted on
12/08/2015 11:48:04 PM PST
by
M-cubed
( Their hope is to find a way to pick a nominee who, if elected, would actually stay the course the w)
To: Mariner
Here is a video of Rep. Chaffetz saying that Gen. Ham, commander of AFRICOM at that time, told him that assets were near enough to help and ready to go.AFRICOM leader General Carter Ham was never given the order to secure the consulate in Benghazi. Youtube 1:43
Adm. James Lyons (Ret.) on Growing Benghazi Scandal
ADMIRAL LYONS: All those comforting words that "We don't want to put our forces at risk." We had people at riskâthey were crying for help! In a situation, you go with the resources you have availableâand, in this particular case, we did have that 130-man Marine force recon team sitting there at Sigonella. Even if I only got 50 of them over there, that would have been significant in turning the situation around. We may not have been able to save the ambassador, but we certainly could have saved those other two SEALs that were over on the annex.
ADMIRAL LYONS: In perpetuating this lie, we also had administration officials lying to Congressional committees. That's a felony. So, "What difference does it make?" It makes all the difference in the world. You cannot flaunt the truth here, just walk away from it and, basically, tell the American public to stuff it. That's not acceptable.
The point on the organizing the two Marine anti-terrorist teams in Rota, that was good to go ahead and stand 'em up. What I find incomprehensible: The first team, it took them 23 hours to go a few hundred miles from Rota to Tripoli. I could go around the world in 23 hours, so that makes absolutely no sense to me.
There is no doubt whatsoever that the assets were in motion preparing to receive an order to go.
How the military preps.
How an embassy rescue works.
Cross Border Authority.
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posted on
12/08/2015 11:51:46 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
To: oldvirginian
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posted on
12/08/2015 11:52:35 PM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Mariner
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posted on
12/08/2015 11:59:15 PM PST
by
Pajamajan
( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
To: All
Whistle-blower: Botched talking points hurt FBI probe of Benghazi attack "Another whistle-blower questioned Wednesday why more military assets were not deployed sooner during the Benghazi terror attack. Mark Thompson, a former Marine and official with the State Department's Counterterrorism Bureau, said he was rebuffed by the White House when he asked for a specialized team -- known as a FEST team -- to be deployed. This is a unit made of special operations personnel, diplomatic security, intelligence and other officers."
BENGAZI - Why Wasn't FEST Activated?
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posted on
12/09/2015 12:00:34 AM PST
by
TigersEye
(This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
To: All
Sources: Key task force not convened during Benghazi consulate attack CBS News has learned that during the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Mission in Benghazi, the Obama Administration did not convene its top interagency counterterrorism resource: the Counterterrorism Security Group, (CSG).
"The CSG is the one group that's supposed to know what resources every agency has. They know of multiple options and have the ability to coordinate counterterrorism assets across all the agencies," a high-ranking government official told CBS News. "They were not allowed to do their job. They were not called upon."
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posted on
12/09/2015 12:04:14 AM PST
by
TigersEye
(This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
To: All
Only the POTUS had the authority to act! 0bama was notified immediately and automatically when the Benghazi consulate triggered the "Imminent Danger Notification System" alert. He did nothing.
Judge Jeanine Investigates Benghazi Gate Part 4 - 10/20/2012 video 6:53
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer (U.S. Army ret.), former CIA Station Chief Gary Berntsen and former CIA operative Mike Baker
They confirm everything Col. Hunt said about automatic notifications to the WH and add more details.
Howie Carr interview with Col. Hunt On The Newest Libyan Revelations audio 28:37
There are three scandals here...
---------------------------------------------------------
Denial of requests for security were a dereliction of duty. The lies and misdirection about the "video" after the attack were fraud and malfeasance under the color of authority. The inaction during the attack was something more than that.
The failure to act during the attack is the direct equivalent of desertion IMO.
ONE man had the authority to act that night.
ONE man deserted his post!
EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say
0bama abandoned his post. 0bama Is A Deserter!
0bama did nothing!!!
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posted on
12/09/2015 12:07:31 AM PST
by
TigersEye
(This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
To: Mariner
"I stick to my original hypothesis. Both Clinton and Obama were drunk and unavailable.
Military could not move without authorization. " Nope. Here's why: the above hypothesis fails to explain why Obama refused to bomb Ansar al-Islam for an entire year following that attack, even though we knew they did it, knew where they were located, etc.
You see, it's what happened *after* Benghazi that let the cat out of the bag.
...Because the other theory, that Obama was working *with* Ansar al-Islam (e.g. to get arms/fighters over from Libya to Syria to overthrow Assad there) easily explains both 9/11/2011 as well as the entire following year where Obama refused to retaliate against Ansar al-Islam for their Benghazi attack.
They weren't drunk...they were in on it. That's why there was a CIA station 1 mile away from the secret State Department facility in the middle of Injun Country.
That's why our Ambassador was there, 600+ miles away from his secure Embassy (Tripoli) at Midnight on 9/11.
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posted on
12/09/2015 12:28:25 AM PST
by
Southack
(The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
To: Southack
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posted on
12/09/2015 12:36:49 AM PST
by
Southack
(The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
To: Yosemitest
Wow!
20 minutes to have jets overhead and under 2 hours to have Delta Force on the ground!
Info I was not aware of.
And Obama watches and does nothing.
Someone needs to grab Panetta and use some old school methods to induce him to spill his guts.
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posted on
12/09/2015 12:52:08 AM PST
by
oldvirginian
(American by birth, Southern by the grace of a loving God and Virginian because Jesus loves me.)
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