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San Bernardino Victim was a Jew Threatened Hours before the Attack
Ammoland ^ | 8 December, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/08/2015 7:19:59 AM PST by marktwain

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To: freepertoo
My wonderful pastor, Lon Solomon

I listen to his sermons on the radio here in southern DE. I used the gist of one of his sermons in our prison ministry a few weeks ago--gave him credit, of course.

I love listening to him.

21 posted on 12/08/2015 7:40:55 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Yes he was just doing recon for the attack


22 posted on 12/08/2015 7:41:06 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: JohnnyP

That is why I always found it ironic that the fall of the WTC came to be known as Ground Zero. But I mentioned that here on FR once and the general consensus was that the concept “zero” wasn’t actually arabic.


23 posted on 12/08/2015 7:41:28 AM PST by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: SauronOfMordor; babble-on
Messianic Jews still consider themselves Jewish. They were born Jews and decided that Jesus was the Messiah.

Well, according to that logic, Michelle Obama can consider herself to be beautiful...it ain't necessarily so. Any Jew who accepts Jesus as the Messiah is no longer Jewish. They may be a kind, decent and generous person, but they aren't Jewish.

24 posted on 12/08/2015 7:41:55 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Paladin2

According to Obama’s church of 20 years, Jesus was a poor black man oppressed by rich white Jews. I take it there were not a lot of Bible readings.


25 posted on 12/08/2015 7:43:27 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: marktwain

All the questions about when Syed Farook and his wife were radicalized are just ignoring reality. It began at birth and continued thru out their life.


26 posted on 12/08/2015 7:43:51 AM PST by Rik0Shay
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To: Ancesthntr

If Jewishness is all about religious belief, a great many Jews are not Jews. I’ve met a lot of Jews who are atheists. Much of Israel would be filled with non-Jewish Jews.


27 posted on 12/08/2015 7:46:32 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I think he attended a Chicken Coop.


28 posted on 12/08/2015 7:46:44 AM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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29 posted on 12/08/2015 7:48:06 AM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: bboop

I may be way off base here, but when I heard talk radio hosts all talking about how Trump had said ‘no Muslims’ and how all the Republican pundits were distancing themselves from him, I thought ‘Trump has just won the election.’


30 posted on 12/08/2015 7:48:53 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Rik0Shay

What is Mad Mo’s birfday?


31 posted on 12/08/2015 7:49:29 AM PST by Paladin2 (my non-desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: exit82

He’s very ‘real people.’ His testimony is on the church website if to would like to hear it. Mcleanbible.org


32 posted on 12/08/2015 7:52:48 AM PST by freepertoo
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To: Buckeye McFrog

No, he was not born a Jew, nor was he raised Jewish. And accepting Jesus makes you a Christian, by definition. That’s the difference between the two faiths.


33 posted on 12/08/2015 7:54:06 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Ancesthntr

They no longer adhere to the Jewish religion as far as it means favor with God is keeping the law, but genetically they are and will always be Jewish,as is Jesus.


34 posted on 12/08/2015 7:55:37 AM PST by freepertoo
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To: marktwain

But remember, Linda Stasi thinks he’s as guilty as his murderer.


35 posted on 12/08/2015 8:09:49 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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To: babble-on

>> a Christian dressed up as a Jew, not actually a Jew

That’s putting an awfully sharp point on it. Being
“dressed up as a Jew” is, IMHO, one helluva lot more respectful of Christian tradition than priests on Sunday dressing up like Roman senators. The Roman empire was nothing more than a slave and plunder-based economy. “Take the front row of spectators and throw ‘em to all to the lions.” Some tradition, huh?

Look at the positive side: The Messianics have great respect for the Tanakh, and have an understanding that Yeshua (Jesus) did not just spring from some unlearned sh!tpile of inbred ignoramuses in the sandy wilderness.

OK, OK - say Mishnah, Midrash, or Maimonides and the “deer in the headlights” look often appears. You should be happy that they are great supporters of Israel, and, for that matter, Jews in general.


36 posted on 12/08/2015 8:32:12 AM PST by QBFimi (/...o.o/.o...ooo/...o.o...o/ooo/...o.o/.o/ooo.//o..o./. o.)
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To: Paladin2

Islam is a scissors to the fabric
Of American life.


37 posted on 12/08/2015 8:37:52 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Mr Rogers
If Jewishness is all about religious belief, a great many Jews are not Jews. I’ve met a lot of Jews who are atheists. Much of Israel would be filled with non-Jewish Jews.

I've met many like that; I'm even related to a bunch. But not practicing one's faith is a very different thing from taking on a different faith, one that has some pretty stark differences from that of your fathers. Of course, there are also a lot of similarities, for obvious reasons, but these are 2 very different faiths. Taking on a new faith necessarily means rejecting the one you grew up with.

None of this, btw, is to take ANYTHING away from this man - he appears to have been a truly decent person and, had I met him, I think that I'd have gotten along with him. Certainly, on ANY level, he was many levels above the despicable murderers who ended his life.

38 posted on 12/08/2015 8:47:25 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: freepertoo
They no longer adhere to the Jewish religion as far as it means favor with God is keeping the law, but genetically they are and will always be Jewish,as is Jesus.

Without trying to be incredibly presumptuous, I think that G-d cares less about your genetics and more about the choices that you make throughout your life. Good works are good works, regardless of what your family history or DNA may be...and the converse is also true.

This man, for all of his (readily apparent) good qualities, was not a Jew - not by birth or choice. That he was pro-Israel is very clear (and may well have been the "last straw" for his murderous co-worker), as was his fondness and decency toward Jewish people...but he wasn't Jewish.

Those born Jewish who choose to believe that Jesus was/is the Messiah may also be perfectly fine, decent and morally upstanding people in every way that matters...but by such belief they have given up their Jewish heritage by choice. Clearly, that choice doesn't change their genetic heritage...but that just deals with the physical, not the moral.

Just my $0.02.

39 posted on 12/08/2015 8:58:17 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: marktwain
One of his facebooks friends says that he was threatened on facebook by Muslims just hours before he was killed.

That would be threats from peacful, moderate, American muzlims...There's millions of them here in the U.S...

40 posted on 12/08/2015 9:21:28 AM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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