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Has the President lost his ability to discharge the power and duties of office?
The Washington Times ^ | December 1,2015 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 12/02/2015 9:12:53 AM PST by brothers4thID

Is it now time to invoke Section 4 of the 25th Amendment?

Has our president officially lost his ability to discharge the powers and duties of his office?

Anyone who listened to President Obama speak to reporters in Paris on Tuesday would reasonably conclude it is high time to start drawing up the papers to transmit to Congress for his removal.

If you are one of the millions and millions of literate Americans out there who have simply tuned this president out the past three or four years, that is certainly understandable. But if you tuned in to the long, rambling, empty press conference, you would have been truly alarmed.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climatechangefraud; climatehoax; obama; obamaclimatechange; obamamentalhealth; parisccc
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I don't believe Obama had any marbles to lose...
1 posted on 12/02/2015 9:12:53 AM PST by brothers4thID
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To: brothers4thID

How about the results of his drug testing?


2 posted on 12/02/2015 9:14:21 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: brothers4thID

3 posted on 12/02/2015 9:14:46 AM PST by PROCON (Proud CRUZader!)
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To: brothers4thID

I’m in the “tune out” crowd.


4 posted on 12/02/2015 9:15:02 AM PST by rdl6989
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To: brothers4thID

His refusal to bomb ISIS oil trucks heading into Turkey seem to lead more to treason than incompetence.


5 posted on 12/02/2015 9:15:18 AM PST by The Toll
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To: brothers4thID

Got to get folks in the administration to agree. First, he has to submitt to a pshyc interview, second, he would have to be declared unfit mentally.

We all know that the man is a psychopath and is mentally unstable, but who would be the first in DC to start the process? In that gutless wonder of a city?


6 posted on 12/02/2015 9:17:23 AM PST by crz
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To: brothers4thID

high time to start drawing up the papers to transmit to Congress for his removal.]]

Not going to happen because the screams of “THAT’S RACIAT” will cause the GOP to fall into a fear coma


7 posted on 12/02/2015 9:20:02 AM PST by Bob434
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To: brothers4thID

Barry “The Slims” Obama.


8 posted on 12/02/2015 9:23:15 AM PST by House Atreides (Cruz or lose! Do TG & Boogieman have to be asses every day?)
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To: Bob434

obie was chosen for his role as grea leader due in large part to his being an alleged negro.

removing him from office would trigger massive riots form the usual riot suspects.

The ensuing Riots would make those recent riots in Baltimore look like a Sunday School Ice Cream Social by comparison.


9 posted on 12/02/2015 9:24:16 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><> GO CRUZ!!!!)
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To: crz
He doesn't have to submit to anything. His cabinet has to declare him unfit, and Congress has to concur. That's it.

I post this scenario every now and then. It's a constitutional coup d'etat.

Another Alternative to Impeachment.

Here is a perfectly constitutionally legal form of coup d'etat that can be used to oust Obama without going through a nasty impeachment process.


Amendment 25 Section 4

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.


Imagine the following scenario.

1. Joe Biden organizes the principle Cabinet members to side with him and declares Obama to be unable to discharge his duties as president. He submits this signed declaration to Orrin Hatch and Paul Ryan and assumes the Presidency.

1a. As an interesting variation, "either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide" suggests that Congress can pass a law naming another body besides the Cabinet that can side with the Vice President. What if Congress were to pass a law allowing, say, a body of NYT and WaPo editors, ABC-NBC-CBS-CNN-MSNBC journalists, and college deans - a totally unelected body of people - to legally declare the president incapable of discharging his duties? What if Biden gets these "intellectual elites" to side with him to oust Obama?

2. Obama then fights back by sending a letter to Hatch and Ryan stating that he is not incapable of discharging his duties, and he declares that he has resumed the Presidency.

3. Biden then gets his supporting body to redeclare within four days that Obama is still unfit for office.

4. Once Biden redeclares that Obama is unfit, Congress must then assemble within 48 hours if in session, or within 20 days if in recess, and vote to accept Biden's declaration by 2/3rds vote, or to accept Obama's declaration that he is still fit for office.

5. Congress sides with Biden and declares Obama to no longer be President.

6. Joe Biden takes over as acting President of the United States.

Hey, I can fantasize, can't I? The question now is whether Obama's academia sidekicks in the Cabinet support the country they were raised in, or if they will follow Obama over the cliff?

-PJ

10 posted on 12/02/2015 9:25:07 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: brothers4thID

I came to the conclusion a long time ago that the President of The United States is a half-educated, narcissistic lunatic. He’s the dangerous “Mad King” of our time.

God help us.


11 posted on 12/02/2015 9:25:13 AM PST by TTFlyer
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To: brothers4thID

President Biden..........


12 posted on 12/02/2015 9:26:45 AM PST by yadent
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To: brothers4thID

Before this happens, and outside of some utterance that both the left and right agree indicate he’s completely mental, something medically catastrophic would have to occur to him.

If you strike a king, you need to kill him. Nobody is going to risk it unless they either know they’ve got him, or the threat he poses is so serious people start disobeying his direct orders because its that obvious.


13 posted on 12/02/2015 9:31:12 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: brothers4thID
If he was not a black socialist created by the media to appear as an American success story his removal would already have happened.

A testament to the power of false celebrity imaging.

14 posted on 12/02/2015 9:32:38 AM PST by Baynative (Liberty lost is a high price to pay for the experiment of socialism.)
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To: brothers4thID

Congressional Republicans make sure obongos agenda marches on.


15 posted on 12/02/2015 9:33:20 AM PST by GregoTX (Calling Illegal Aliens "immigrants" is like calling burglars "house residents")
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To: brothers4thID

The Washington Times ARE reading Free Republic. This very thought has been Repeated over and over by many of us for weeks now. Don’t think they were smart enough to find that law all by themselves.


16 posted on 12/02/2015 9:34:08 AM PST by annieokie
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To: brothers4thID

He never had to ability to begin with. Those warning about this community organizer who wanted to fundamentally transform the Union knew this.


17 posted on 12/02/2015 9:34:15 AM PST by austingirl
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To: brothers4thID

The Zero never had the ability to discharge duties.


18 posted on 12/02/2015 9:34:28 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: GregoTX

The bastard child never had control of his power and has proven it over and over. He is a Muslim over and over and nothing will change that.


19 posted on 12/02/2015 9:34:47 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Political Junkie Too

They have to prove that he is unfit. Reasons, reasons, reasons.

But, if they made to claim, he could submit to an exam to prove his mental state. Which would prove to be a mistake because he is a psychopath.


20 posted on 12/02/2015 9:34:52 AM PST by crz
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