Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Israel to begin enlisting HIV-positive soldiers
Associated Press ^ | Dec. 1, 2015 3:14 PM EST | Tia Goldenberg

Posted on 12/01/2015 12:18:33 PM PST by Olog-hai

The Israeli military said Tuesday it will begin enlisting soldiers who are HIV-positive, in a policy shift putting the country at the forefront of military inclusivity toward people with the virus that causes AIDS.

Military service in Israel is compulsory for Jews, but until now people with HIV were automatically deemed unfit to serve for medical reasons. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at bigstory.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Israel
KEYWORDS: hivpositive; idf
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

1 posted on 12/01/2015 12:18:33 PM PST by Olog-hai
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

Why? So they can bugger the enemy?


2 posted on 12/01/2015 12:19:26 PM PST by laweeks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

King Arthur: What are you gonna do, bleed on me?


3 posted on 12/01/2015 12:20:46 PM PST by tlozo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

could the world become any more utterly ABSURD??


4 posted on 12/01/2015 12:21:07 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><> GO CRUZ!!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MeshugeMikey
could the world become any more utterly ABSURD??

Oh, just stick around.

5 posted on 12/01/2015 12:21:48 PM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

Because it’s not like a battlefield blood transfusion is ever necessary or anything.


6 posted on 12/01/2015 12:22:20 PM PST by circlecity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Steely Tom

every time...and I mean every tim.. Im sure Ive “seen it all”...what I couldnt have “imagined” happens


7 posted on 12/01/2015 12:23:26 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><> GO CRUZ!!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: laweeks

Would putting those people in check points deter suicide bombers?


8 posted on 12/01/2015 12:24:04 PM PST by tbw2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: MeshugeMikey

Now you have soldiers you don’t care about sending on suicide missions.


9 posted on 12/01/2015 12:24:32 PM PST by tbw2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: MeshugeMikey
"No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up."

-- Lily Tomlin

10 posted on 12/01/2015 12:25:35 PM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai
Satire is dead.

The real world is so weird as to defy any attempt at exaggeration or reductio ad absurdum.

11 posted on 12/01/2015 12:29:15 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

Would this be a form of biological warfare? If the infected are conveniently captured as POWs, you know what Muslims like to do.


12 posted on 12/01/2015 12:29:52 PM PST by Marko413
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai; All

“...in a policy shift putting the country at the forefront of military inclusivity toward people with the virus that causes AIDS.”

Hey, you FNG with AIDS, you got point!


13 posted on 12/01/2015 12:30:22 PM PST by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai
Good move. Dr. Duesberg was right all along and the Israelis know it. HIV is basically harmless.
14 posted on 12/01/2015 12:34:34 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Nessie ... Sasquatch ... The Free Syrian Army ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: laweeks

No....each other——they are trying to be like the Spartans-—same as the homosexual Nazi SA. (Very evil, sexless/sexist cultures). Sex is meaningless.

The same elite sodomites run the NWO-—which includes Israel and they want the handsome virile males who join the army-—it is why obama made sodomy and bestiality “Good” and celebrated in our military so that the decent males get preyed upon-—to create an immoral army like the Brownshirts.

Only tyrannies allow degrading behaviors-—all for control of the masses—people willing to do diabolical things to children and women (homosexual cultures like the Samurai/Spartans/Afghanis-—all pederastic cultures)—for bread and circuses. Homosexuality is what will collapse all cultures-—like it did to Sodom and Rome and Greece.

Without virtue, there is no civil society—no “Justice” (virtue). Montesquieu stated that for a Free Republic, Just Law always promotes public virtue——we now promote Vice—even teaching little boys to masturbate to destroy virtue formation..


15 posted on 12/01/2015 12:39:31 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

I don’t believe it.


16 posted on 12/01/2015 12:51:27 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: circlecity
Because it’s not like a battlefield blood transfusion is ever necessary or anything.

My take is that cowards would claim to be HIV positive knowing that they could get out of the Draft.

Doing this closes that loop hole.

At least I hope that's their reason for doing this. If it's to demonstrate "inclusivity" then they are out of their minds.

17 posted on 12/01/2015 1:13:00 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Forgotten Amendments

“Good move. Dr. Duesberg was right all along and the Israelis know it. HIV is basically harmless.”

It is sad reality that most otherwise intelligent people depend upon tribal instincts for knowledge about obscure science. Obscure facts are an opportunity for those selling solutions to problems few people understand. When global warming doesn’t conform to facts, and not all atmospheric science professionals can be bribed or threatened, gradually change the threat to “global change”, which is obviously always happening. Great point Forgotten Amendments.

It isn’t just Duesberg, a brilliant scientist who regrets having left the Max Planck Institute, not understanding the dangers implicity in government-directed research funding. How many individuals have we killed by forcing gene termination treatments upon people? The inventor and Nobel Prize recipient for developing PCR, Kerry Mullis, doesn’t care about tribal association. Without PCR the retrovirus which is almost never found in cadavers who die of “AIDS” is usually not detectable. That is not how a virus destroys its host and Mullis is a real scientist who values truth.

The HIV myth will someday have books written about it, like the books about T.D. Lysenko, who reputedly destroyed Soviet gene research for almost four decades who controlled genetic research funding by applying dialectical materialism to determine agricultural directions and investments for the USSR.

The list of doubters continues to grow as scientists who know raising the issue will likely cost them their NSF and NIH grants, funding without which tenure means little, retire. By questioning Gallo and Fauci, whose careers have blossomed, scientists lose their grad students and can’t obtain the grants which are the lifeline of research scientists. The pharmaceutical industry is not evil, but depends enormously upon the FDA. Their money is the milk of congressmen from around the country and lawyers like those whose careers often focus on one perceived insult; just look at the asbestos bar, a sad racket that has destroyed some of our greatest companies using tactics that depend upon ignorance and propaganda.

I can relate, obviously without names, a sad comment by a senior research scientist at one of our most prominent pharmaceutical houses. When Mullis’ clear description of facts was mentioned, as scientist explained that Mullis is best known for discovering the prion, which, he said, explains the infection process, and knows nothing about cancer. That is simply not true, and the prion hypothesis is but one of dozens of hypothesis since dismissed, for HIV transmission. And last I looked, even the French scientist, Luc Montagnier who separated what is known as the HIV virus now agrees with Duesberg, that the HIV virus is most likely a “passenger virus”. The retrovirus identified by Montagnier appears to be a little less virulent than the virus resulting in cold sores, appearing when the immune system is weakened, and a common indicator of an impending cold infection.

There have been prolific denials her at FR, reminding of the political positions around nuclear safety, but every attempt at explaining the infectious process has failed. There has never been epidemic growth where data were reliable (almost no African tests were performed upon people who died of the usual causes, malnutrition, poor hygiene, drug use).

Israel can’t afford to bow to lobbyists to sustain a myth, not unlike global warming, for which there is no scientific justification. Ask the San Francisco division of Act Up, the gay activist society that praised Duesberg for the lives he saved by confirming the facts causing many of them to reject the “cocktails”, reject drug use, many of them barely alive. They performed the tests on human beings our medical community, understandably, couldn’t perform. From virtual cadavers I saw many of these survivors with their partners at the announcement of Duesberg’s book, written in self defense, “The Myth of the AIDS Virus”.

Doctors are seldom scientists. We probably know doctors who only take a flu shot because they need to keep their jobs. That is how so many, like Arthur Ashe and the young Florida girl treated by an dentist with AIDS died, being treated with gene terminators; chemotherapy drugs that were known to be lethal. Honest can be hard to find. Israel can’t afford to subscribe to myths. Duesberg has too much integrity. Gallo made 100 million dollars each year from his mis-gotten patents for the HIB test. One of his lab scientists took the rap for stealing the Montagnier sample and publishing it as his own. HIV-positive Magic Johnson was warned not to take the cocktails and now plays celebrity tennis. There are hundreds or thousands like him. The percentage of applicants for the armed forces, always tested for HIB, who tested positive has not changed in over twenty years.


18 posted on 12/01/2015 2:06:15 PM PST by Spaulding
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: circlecity

Pity those poor medics who will have that blood all over them.


19 posted on 12/01/2015 2:07:28 PM PST by Mr. Blond
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai
Dear AP and Tia: I will wait to hear from Mr. Netanyahu.

5.56mm

20 posted on 12/01/2015 2:31:58 PM PST by M Kehoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson