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We deride chances of Marine Le Pen and Donald Trump at our peril
Financial Times ^ | November 30th, 2015 | Gideon Rachman

Posted on 11/30/2015 5:44:44 PM PST by Mariner

I have a nightmare vision for the year 2017: President Trump, President Le Pen, President Putin.

Like most nightmares, this one probably won’t come true. But the very fact that Donald Trump and Marine Le Pen are running strongly for the American and French presidencies says something disturbing about the health of liberal democracy in the west. In confusing and scary times, voters seem tempted to turn to “strong” nationalistic leaders — western versions of Russia’s Vladimir Putin.

In Washington recently, I found most mainstream political analysts dismissing the idea that Mr Trump could win the Republican nomination, let alone the presidency. This struck me as complacent. If Mr Trump were a normal candidate he would be regarded as favourite for the nomination. He is ahead in the crucial early states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Outrageous remarks about Mexicans, Muslims, the disabled and women have not dented his popularity.

Many Democrats chortle that if the Republicans are mad enough to nominate Mr Trump, he would certainly be trounced by Hillary Clinton in the presidential election. But even that cannot be assumed. The most recent national poll on a Trump v Clinton contest had Mr Trump winning by five points.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; trump
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When the world and the European Left is afraid, you've made it.
1 posted on 11/30/2015 5:44:44 PM PST by Mariner
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Who are “we”?


2 posted on 11/30/2015 5:45:22 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Trounced byuHillary? lol he is trouncing the liar already. She never had anyone go after her scandals like trump will.


3 posted on 11/30/2015 5:46:02 PM PST by ground_fog
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To: Mariner
Like most nightmares, this one probably won’t come true. But the very fact that Donald Trump and Marine Le Pen are running strongly for the American and French presidencies says something disturbing about the health of liberal democracy in the west.

Yeah, it's scary that "the people" might get a say in their own "democracy," isn't it?

4 posted on 11/30/2015 5:46:27 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (Ben Carson - the safe space candidate)
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"Who are “we”?"

The commies, of course.

5 posted on 11/30/2015 5:46:58 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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President Trump, President Le Pen, President Putin

Gosh, and for us, it's a dream come true...even Bad Vlad, who we really need for entertainment value if nothing else.

6 posted on 11/30/2015 5:54:23 PM PST by Regulator
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“President Trump, President Le Pen, President Putin”

I’m getting a tingle up my leg just thinking about it. The new Reagan-Thatcher era V 2016.


7 posted on 11/30/2015 5:57:16 PM PST by max americana (fired every liberal in our company at every election cycle..and laughed at their faces (true story))
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To: Mariner

At ISIS’ peril.
Oh wait. I guess that goes for their allies too.


8 posted on 11/30/2015 6:01:53 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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Cause Obama/ Merkel would never put you in peril.


9 posted on 11/30/2015 6:04:06 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame enobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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One word you ponce - Rotherham.


10 posted on 11/30/2015 6:12:37 PM PST by AndyJackson
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When the world and the European Left is afraid, you've made it.

I agree. Leftists are almost perfect reverse barometers. If they're for something, I figure what they're for has to be screwed up.

Likewise, if they're against something, the thing they're against must have some merit.

11 posted on 11/30/2015 6:16:21 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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The left wing media has now stopped even pretending to be unbiased and is actively and unabashedly engaging in propaganda.


12 posted on 11/30/2015 6:21:54 PM PST by Bon mots
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He refers to “democracy?” I can’t find the word “democracy” in the US Constitution. Am I missing something?


13 posted on 11/30/2015 6:35:34 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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The FT is basically the voice of the corrupt, corporatist global elite.

They complain about "ultra-nationalist" movements, but heap praise on the corrupt fascists who arrest their political opposition for "hate speech" for daring to oppose the elite's infatuation with importing politically useful exotic barbarians.

14 posted on 11/30/2015 7:06:38 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: max americana

Throw in Nigel Farage.


15 posted on 11/30/2015 7:07:50 PM PST by dfwgator
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“But the very fact that Donald Trump and Marine Le Pen are running strongly for the American and French presidencies says something disturbing about the health of liberal democracy in the west”

Liberal Democracy? Yeh its a parasitic disease that has infected our Constitutional Republic and its time to get vaccinated.


16 posted on 11/30/2015 7:32:30 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Scary to liberals. Not scary to small “d” democrats.


17 posted on 11/30/2015 7:58:45 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (islam is a totalitarian death cult founded by a child rapist.)
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Why do honest politicians scare those that control Wall Street?


18 posted on 11/30/2015 8:20:08 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Mariner

Common sense is now perilous, apparently.


19 posted on 11/30/2015 8:50:55 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Regulator

The three could set the world to right. Add in the guy from China, and a new German leader. They could solve most of the problems in an afternoon meeting. Afew assassinations, an government overthrow or two, the Planet may have a breather from war and horror.


20 posted on 11/30/2015 10:22:25 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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