And the helicopter they shot down ...
didn’t know whose it was either?
So basically they were just shooting at random jets hoping they would get one of Assad’s?
The Turkey’s of Turkey torqueing the truth.
Note that some reports indicate that the incursion into Turkish airspace lasted all of 30 seconds.
SPIN
“We had to shoot it down, see, to find out who was in it.”
If Turkey was a golfer it would get penalized two strokes for improving its lie.
So they were just a happy to shoot an Israeli, American, French plane? No ID,,, coulda been a non military machine even.
The Turk moslems are getting wrapped into their lies.
On top of this, there are fresh reports starting to pop up that a Turkish “Aid” convoy was destroyed by an aerial attack near Aleppo. Activists and people on the ground are claiming that they were Russian aircraft.
In other words, they are getting scared. They screwed up, NATO knows, Russia knows, and they are covering their back. My take...
They’re scared of Putin.
Turkey f.d up. They made a bad choice.
You can bet the other members of NATO, save for Obama, have let Mr. Ego in Turkey know they're not going to lift a finger when the blow-back for this hits.
They also know damn well that anyone who knows squat can tell that a 17 second incursion wasn't long enough for anyone to transmit ten warnings before warming up a Sidewinder and firing on the Russian plane.
Anyone with half a brain also knows that when a highly placed Turk says that ISIS should be accepted by everyone and have a consulate in Turkey the numb skull making that statement isn't some sort of renegade who isn't part of mainstream Turkish thought. Spilled the beans on how the Turks really feel, that's all.
JMHo
Russia is now sending empty jets to Turkey to remove their nationals. I suspect that Turkey knows it step on a Hornet’s nest. I will be interesting if Turkey can learn from this, rather than have to deal with the effects of an 800 lb. cruise missile warhead hitting one of their military bases.
Trying to put the cover back on a can of Russian Whoop-Ass they never should have opened.
First they stab the bear in the ass and then worry about what they did ?
Personally , I would not bother me a bit for Putin to go in and flatted Erdgoan’s palace .
And if NATO has any brains it will ditch its commitments to disloyal , Islamist Turkey ASAP .
Turkey is NOT Europe , it is NOT an Atlantic nation , and it is profoundly pro-ISIS and anti-Israel .
We need military association with Turkey like we need a hole in the head . Only recently did Turkey even allow us to use our capacities at Incilrik . If I were President we would be closing Incilrik tomorrow . Better to support Israel and F Turkey
So who did Edrogin ‘personal’ issue the order to?
Muslims lying? Imagine that...
How can you tell who is right when everybody lies.
I can’t deal with these Turkey headlines the day before thanksgiving. It takes re reading a few times until I can figure out why some bird is not shooting at aircraft
How did the Turkmen know the exact area to be in when the Russian jet came down, so that they could shoot the Russian pilots parachuting out?