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ISIS is encouraging followers to download this popular messaging app (defeats gov't surveillance)
Tech Insider ^ | 11/18/2015 | Dave Smith

Posted on 11/18/2015 2:36:07 PM PST by DCdude

In response to Anonymous’ recent hacking threats, the extremist militant group ISIS is encouraging its followers to start using a popular messaging app, where it’s providing “instructions” on how to avoid being hacked.

An ISIS-affiliated account on the popular messaging app Telegram — which has more than 50 million users sending 1 billion messages a day, according to The Daily Beast — provided instructions to followers in both Arabic and English, which was then forwarded to other ISIS-affiliated channels on Telegram.

The instructions told followers to not open any links unless they were sure of the source, and change IP addresses “constantly.” ISIS also told people “do not talk to people [you] don’t know on Telegram” or through direct messages on Twitter.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: isis; snowden; telegram
The jihadi's are using Playstation 4's and the free App Telegram to defeat the billions our gov't is spending to try to listen to their communications.

Sad fact is the NSA is powerless right now to fight Telegram due to it's encryption capabilities. They are sweeping up our communications, but they have no solution to end to end encryption, self destructing messages, and services like telegram whose message are not even stored on a server.

Scary stuff.

1 posted on 11/18/2015 2:36:07 PM PST by DCdude
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To: DCdude

People need to understand, that unless and until there is some magical (quantum) breakthrough in computing, encryption/decryption will ALWAYS be asymmetrical - that is, it will ALWAYS be easier to encrypt things than to decrypt them without the key. And some things are flat impossible to decrypt, period, end of story, by anyone, with any equipment, without the key. All this crybaby stuff by the government will do nothing except get laws passed that will lessen the privacy of honest people.

They are going to have to find another route - humint, shoe leather and bugs, for example. Worked before, still works, better than ever.


2 posted on 11/18/2015 2:57:50 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: The Antiyuppie; DCdude

How did we ever fight wars before electricity was invented?

The idea that monitoring electronic communications is necessary to win a war is silly. That would only help the government fight these fantasy “pin prick” wars where they pick off only the bad guy with a drone and there is no collateral damage. It is utterly impossible to win a war that way so they shouldn’t even try. ISIS, the Nazis, the WW2 Japanese, etc., could not function unless they had huge numbers of soft support among their ethnic group. Thus no way against them can be won until those civilians feel the punishment and pain along with the active fighters.


3 posted on 11/18/2015 3:01:40 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: The Antiyuppie; DCdude

The #1 step in winning a war against a foreign enemy is to keep the enemy out of your country. As long as we have leaders who will let in large swaths of random people from enemy countries, there will be no way to prevent attacks. The idea that we can even monitor everyone on the “watch list” has been proven false again and again. You cannot prevent all attacks and the ones that get through your defenses could be the most devastating ones.

The enemy’s supportive population and their ideology have to be attacked and defeated. The war cannot be won on defense. If we don’t start actually fighting the enemy until they get the capacity to deliver a nuclear or other mass scale attack, we will regret it. If all we do is wait, we WILL eventually have to actually fight with the ferocity that too many people don’t want to do now. It will happen no matter what. The only problem is that by waiting, it will happen only after we suffer catastrophic losses. Fight the battle now instead of later, and we save ourselves that unimaginable pain.


4 posted on 11/18/2015 3:16:04 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: DCdude

SHARE THIS 31/2 MINUTE VIDEO WITH THOSE STILL CONFUSED ABOUT ISLAM:
http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/the-video-moderate-muslims-didnt-want-to-get-out/


5 posted on 11/18/2015 3:43:44 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: The Antiyuppie

That is exactly right, hence the current focus on Edward Snowden again. He is being used as the poster boy for why the gov’t needs to INCREASE spying. Most of that spying will be on innocents like you and I.

With technology these days (ie Telegram), the savvy Jihadi’s are not going to be found out through their communications. The dumb pot head from Belgium who was texting and threw his cell phone in the trash before he attacked the Bataclan would have not led French police to his accomplices had he used Telegram and/or destroyed his phone.


6 posted on 11/18/2015 3:56:06 PM PST by DCdude
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To: DCdude
Communication intercepts have very rarely resulted in anything useful in regards to terrorism, but are great fun for going after tax cheats or any other crime that the government wants to charge you with.

Almost all useful intercepts have been from someone who knows something and wants to show off. Organizers typically take great care in ensuring that there's no chance that the communications can be intercepted.

It all goes down the same path: Human intel is far better than all the fancy toys; human intel won't really come until we stop trying to ‘understand’, ‘placate’ and cover up the horrors that Islam is. Until the world is mostly united in stomping out the death cult, thousands will die this month from Islam. Most of them won't even make the news.

7 posted on 11/18/2015 4:33:48 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: JediJones

My first thought, send them all back.


8 posted on 11/18/2015 4:41:38 PM PST by huldah1776
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