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There seems to be some disagreement about the power to close any mosques. I believe that this article will clear up the misconception that islam is a religion.

From the article: Islamists know they cannot destroy us militarily, but they also know that they can do it with political correctness and insisting that we respect their freedom of religion, even though they have no respect for ours. We are extending a welcoming hand to the enemy of our country and western culture under the pretense of religious freedom.

There's much more at the link.

1 posted on 11/17/2015 7:53:33 AM PST by DJ MacWoW
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To: DJ MacWoW

islam is a totalitarian death cult founded by a child rapist.


2 posted on 11/17/2015 7:55:24 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (islam is a totalitarian death cult founded by a child rapist.)
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3 posted on 11/17/2015 7:55:24 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Islam is centered around Sharia law, which is fascism. It would be the same as if Nazis called their ideology a religion.


5 posted on 11/17/2015 7:56:35 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I have been saying for a long time that we need to re-define Islam for what it is, a political ideology with religious overtones. That takes it out of the realm of freedom of religion and we can start shutting down the Mosques and get rid of it. We also need to stop letting anymore Muslims into the US and deport as many as possible.

Islam is a parasite that kills its host.


7 posted on 11/17/2015 8:00:09 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Islam is Not a Religion”
February 19, 2011
By admin
Religion”
New book by Rebecca Bynum
Reviewed by Louis Palme
The duck-billed platypus is native to Australia. It is an amphibious egg-laying mammal which has a duck-like bill, web feet, and fur. It electrocutes its under-water prey of worms, shrimp, and larvae, but it also has a venomous claw that can paralyze land-based animals and people. It stores food in pouches in the mouth, but it has no teeth. When the babies are hatched they nurse through the skin, as the platypus has no nipples. One could not imagine a stranger animal on the face of the earth.

So it is not a casual remark when Rebecca Bynum calls Islam the duck-billed platypus of belief systems. This is because Islam is really an all-encompassing hybrid religio-socio-political system that cannot be compared with Christianity, or any other major religion, for that matter.
Why Islam is Not a Religion

Just because people profess a faith in an ideology doesn’t make it a religion. In our lifetime, people swore loyalty to Communism and Nazism with religious fervor, but those ideologies were never granted a “religious” status. Also in America, one so-called “religious” practice – polygamy – was so offensive that the Mormon Church was forced to discontinue it to gain legal acceptance. There are definite limits to what can be deemed a religion, even in First Amendment America.
In addition to being a hybrid, Islam is wholly materialistic. The Quran takes on an almost fetish character, where the book itself is “sacred,” not the contents. The focus of prayer and the object of pilgrimage and veneration is a black rock. The rewards for dying in the cause of Allah are completely material — virgins, food, and sensual ambiance. Finally, Islam is the only religion where territorial sovereignty is more important than the inner spiritual sovereignty over men’s hearts. Mankind and territory are divided between the world of “submission” and the world of “warfare.” Whereas Judeo-Christian religions focus on the righteousness of individuals, the emphasis in Islam is the collective –the ummah.

When it comes to a concept of a god, the Allah of Islam predestines mankind’s lives with both good and evil outcomes. The submission to “Allah’s will” means not only that man has no personal responsibility, but Allah’s powers are unlimited and often whimsical. Good and evil cannot be determined rationally, but only by the dictates of the Quran and the example of Muhammad. The Judeo-Christian God, on the other hand, is characterized by loving kindness (checked), and mankind can use reason to distinguish between good and evil without relying on a written scripture or religious teaching.
Ms. Bynum concludes, “So what the Islamic system has done is usurped the place of God in the lives of believers. It has made a spiritual God unnecessary. The Islamic system is all one needs to know and obey. One must memorize the fixed words of the Quran, but knowing God as a living spiritual being is not required. . . The freedom Muslims are promised is of course entirely delusional because the reality in Islam is a life reduced to utter slavery – physical, psychological, and spiritual – without balm, without rest, without peace.“
What Should the Response to Islam Be?

“Compassion demands that we see Muslims as human beings first. . . Should we not then thoroughly examine the fundamental error of Islam, that is, of seeing the world’s peoples as divided and fundamentally separate, that Muslims and non-Muslims are not only different, but Muslims are more and non-Muslims less? If God’s love is divided, then God who is love must be divided, and though Muslims claim otherwise — that they worship “one God”– their theology in this regard is contradictory and insupportable. Judged in this light, is it not incumbent upon us to seek to free individual Muslims from the totalitarian thought-system of Islam, just as we once sought to free Eastern Europeans from the totalitarian system of communism on the basis that it is fundamentally in error?”
“Real peacemaking is the result of the stout and unyielding defense of the values our civilization was founded upon. . . . Islam is deeply and profoundly wrong. Pretending it is right only worsens our situation by delaying actions that must be taken if our own civilization, however imperfect and unseemly it may be, is to be preserved.”
“Religion must hold to the transcendent purpose of reconciling man to a greater reality – it must lead man to God and bring God, or Love, if you will, into the life of man in ever increasing measure. Religion must always stand apart from the social and political institutions of the society in which it exists. Its function is not to uphold the status quo; its function is to show man a higher reality.”

“One of the most important points to make about Islam is this: the purpose of Islam is only found in the perpetuation of Islam. Islam literally has no higher purpose. . . [That’s one of the reasons Islam is not really a religion.] There is no greater integrating or unifying force than religion. Without religion, we have absolutely nothing with which to counter Islam. . . Only faith in a loving God and the conviction that truth, beauty and goodness are real can oppose faith in a God of hate, a God of untruth, ugliness and cruelty. Religion itself is not the enemy and should not be treated as such.”
Rebecca Bynum’s book is a rational and compassionate discussion of the numerous disconnects between Islam and the Judeo-Christian ideologies. While it will be disturbing to Muslims who have never considered the theological and spiritual merits of Islam, it will empower non-Muslims to challenge the deeply worn “riverbed” of Islamic traditions which have very little to do with the sustaining “river” of a spiritual faith in a living God which should be central to any true religion.


10 posted on 11/17/2015 8:02:22 AM PST by JayAr36 (How much more corruption will we willing to take from the Washington???????)
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To: DJ MacWoW

islam isn’t a religion, it’s a death cult for cowardly murderers and demented cutthroats.


12 posted on 11/17/2015 8:05:05 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: DJ MacWoW
When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.
- Frank Herbert, Children of Dune

17 posted on 11/17/2015 8:07:49 AM PST by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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To: DJ MacWoW

it is all balderdash


20 posted on 11/17/2015 8:12:06 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trumping.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

There is NO Radical Islam. It’s ALL JUST Islam and, if they adhere to the teachings of Mohammed, THEY’RE ALL RADICAL because, ultimately, they ALL want kafirs (that’s us) D.E.A.D.! Get used to it!!

If you genuinely want to understand the TRUE, VIOLENT, DUALISTIC, SCHIZOPHRENIC nature of ISLAM in order to become part of a solution instead of part of the problem that spells doom for Western Civilization (and, NO, that’s not too extreme a statement), you need to spend 40 minutes with Dr. Bill Warner here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjBDDC4wVxk

(Don’t be concerned when Dr. Warner mentions that he sells books. Though I suggest you sample the info in the first 5 minutes if only to get a sense of how thorough his research has been, if short on time, slide out past the 5 minute mark for the red meat beyond. THAT’S where the really good stuff is.)

And this is ESPECIALLY for any antisemites who view the Jewish Conspiracy as the primary threat to your existence and are put off because the video was posted by a Jewish group.  Try to think of any nations conquered by violent, bloody Jewish jihad and send me their names.

After watching this presentation, if you STILL believe that Bush was correct when he called islam a religion of peace (it’s not a religion and it ain’t peaceful) and Obama was right when he recently declared islam morally equivalent or superior to the Christian Crusades, you are DEFINITELY a BIG part of the problem.

We need to remember that there are at least TWO definitions of “peace.”
1. The absence of war or conflict. This is the one embraced by most free peoples of the world.
2. The absence of RESISTANCE to aggression, attack or policies, doctrines and ideologies of a barbarous system with which one disagrees. This is the one held by most western liberals, communists (now called “progressives” and “Democrats”) and the islamofascists.

If the second definition prevails, it invariably leads to the third and final “peace” for the losers — that of the beheading sword, firing squad, bullet behind the ear, etc. and on to the graveyard or lime pit.

One last comment vis-a-vis the SILENT moderate” muslims: They are IRRELEVANT inasmuch as once their more aggressive bretheren secure their sought after world domination, those moderates will swing in behind the victors to also enjoy the fruits of that victory.

Gang, this is a WAR and it is one we dare not lose!

PLEASE SHARE THIS BEFORE THEY STRIKE OFF YOUR FINGER TIPS, YOUR HEAD or SOME OTHER ESSENTIAL BODY PART!!


21 posted on 11/17/2015 8:16:46 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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Islam is a theocracy. By definition, it is at odds with the establishment clause of the First Amendment. It is the very reason the First Amendment exists.
26 posted on 11/17/2015 8:20:39 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: DJ MacWoW
There seems to be some disagreement about the power to close any mosques

If you consider that a mosque is simply a base of military operations for a sworn enemy of the west, the decision to close it SHOULD be easy. Of course, with liberals, nothing is simple or easy.

28 posted on 11/17/2015 8:24:52 AM PST by Disambiguator (Cis-American)
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All that is true BUT....they are here by the thousands and they are multiplying like rabbits. Evidentially they will take over by sheer numbers.

Letting them in like 0bama is doing just hastens the takeover. Those are the breeders...then we have the militants who just like to kill. Either way, it’s not going to be good.


33 posted on 11/17/2015 8:31:43 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda�Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
It doesn't matter if it is or isn't a religion. Any religion that seeks your death or subjugation is invalid on its face because it cannot conform to the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, or any other founding document.

Islam is wholly incompatible and has to be rejected; regardless if you accept it as a religion or a political system.

Now, we need a national debate on Islam, and I support Allen West in leading that debate.

38 posted on 11/17/2015 8:37:48 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The death for apostasy part convinces me that it is a cult.


48 posted on 11/17/2015 8:53:07 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: DJ MacWoW

Islam is not a religion. It is a violent world-expansionist movement cleverly disguised as a religion.


53 posted on 11/17/2015 9:06:36 AM PST by I want the USA back (Jihadi-hating CRUSADER. Like it or STFU.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I have been saying this since the Iran hostage crisis. ISLIME IS NOT (just) A RELIGION! It is an entire political, legal, cultural, and social system. And one that is organically incompatible with Western values.

We need to stop thinking about it as a religious institution!

If Nazism (rooted as it was in Aryan mythology) had been declared a religion by Hitler and his henchmen, would we have refused to attack Germany? Much of Japan’s bushido (warrior) code that drove them to war against the Allies, and which inspired the “Divine Wind” (kamakazis) was based in Shinto religious beliefs. Did that stop us from nuking Japan?

Muslimes can’t hide behind religion any more.


54 posted on 11/17/2015 9:20:53 AM PST by IronJack
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To: DJ MacWoW

I don’t think you’d get much agreement with the idea that Islam is not a religion.


55 posted on 11/17/2015 9:24:34 AM PST by TBP (Nous sommes tout Francais.)
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