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Oil Prices: The Bottom Isn’t In
Wall Street Journal ^ | Nov. 13, 2015 | SPENCER JAKAB

Posted on 11/13/2015 1:57:25 PM PST by thackney

How...quaint. U.S. benchmark crude touched the $40 a barrel mark and much economic hand-wringing ensued with the Federal Reserve chief lamenting its effect on the "long-term path of the U.S. economy." Except the chief's name was Greenspan, not Yellen, and it was 11 and a half years ago.

Today oil prices threaten to push through that psychological barrier from above, not below. Despite having peaked more than 16 months ago some two-thirds higher than today, prices have yet to find a firm floor.

In fact, prices have staged a sudden reversal from what many investors had thought was a stable level: Crude has fallen 15% in just the past 10 days. Low prices should act as a sort of economic stimulus for importers and spur demand, but the opposite is happening in many emerging markets.

The latest blow was a double whammy of pronouncements from organizations literally on opposite sides of the market. The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries said excess inventory now exceeds what was seen in the first quarter of 2009, in the depths of a severe recession.

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1 posted on 11/13/2015 1:57:25 PM PST by thackney
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To: thackney

Idiot, it’s 1/3 the price of 16 months ago; or, you could say oil was three times the current price 16 months ago.

2/3 the price of 16 months ago woud have meant it was then about $26.67.


2 posted on 11/13/2015 2:02:06 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan

Scratch that second sentence.

Should have been $40 x 1.67 = $66.8.


3 posted on 11/13/2015 2:03:59 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: thackney

Here’s the rub...I like the low price at the pump but is for all the wrong reasons.

No one working in the U.S. and fewer vacations means less demand. If we were simply producing more oil and gas due to pro-cheap energy policy that would be great (aka, drill baby drill)...also global economy slowdown means China demands less, too.

Cheap oil for all the wrong reasons...

0Obama loves it as it is for all the right reasons to him...and it hurts Texas, too.


4 posted on 11/13/2015 2:10:58 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Some Animals are more equal than others.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Math is hard...


5 posted on 11/13/2015 2:17:59 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

With uncertainties of global warming, half of EU following Greece to the Greece trap, the other half of EU using welfare to bribe terrorists to be nice, the leader of the world leading from behind, regulations like Keystone that actually increase global warming gas..

with all of that, what’s a job creator to do?


6 posted on 11/13/2015 2:18:15 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: CincyRichieRich
No one working in the U.S. and fewer vacations means less demand.

Actually, US gasoline demand is up, not down. It has been climbing for a few year. And global demand for oil is still rising. It is rising slower, but it has not fallen.

The price drop came from production rising faster than demand, not from falling demand.

7 posted on 11/13/2015 2:21:08 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Geez, if 40 ain’t the bottom...To be honest I kinda’ thought it was.


8 posted on 11/13/2015 2:22:46 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job...)
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To: TalBlack

The market’s been manipulated to hold the price around $45 a barrel for benchmark for quite some time now. Sometimes it edges up to $50, sometimes it creeps down to about $40, but then the adjustments are made and it moves back toward the target. Let’s see what happens over the next few weeks.


9 posted on 11/13/2015 2:27:06 PM PST by PAR35
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To: thackney
Hey Spencer: if you're going to write financial stories, you might want to study up on the concept of government-forced inflation.

$40 was $31.76 eleven years ago, moron.

(Moron directed at WSJ author, not the FR OP.)

10 posted on 11/13/2015 2:44:09 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: thackney

And by the way, gas is cheaper now than anytime since I started driving (legally) in 1983.


11 posted on 11/13/2015 2:46:22 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: backwoods-engineer

I have just a couple more years of legally driving on the road, but I have certainly seen several years of cheaper gasoline.

Dec 2008 most recently.

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPMR_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=M


12 posted on 11/13/2015 2:54:29 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: PAR35

The same exact pattern can be seen at the pump in my area, now. You can tell 1.99/gallon gas is the current target price, and has been for a while now. It drifts up and down just as you described, but every so often it “corrects” back to 1.99


13 posted on 11/13/2015 2:54:37 PM PST by Company Man (I've got a Princess Bride quote and I'm not afraid to use it)
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To: thackney

That’s nationwide, right? Gas was never that cheap where I was living at the time. In the state I’m living in now, gas taxes are much cheaper .


14 posted on 11/13/2015 3:29:06 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Despite having peaked more than 16 months ago some two-thirds higher than today, prices have yet to find a firm floor. In fact, prices have staged a sudden reversal from what many investors had thought was a stable level: Crude has fallen 15% in just the past 10 days.
And now, to destroy the US economy for good, the Demagogic Party wants to impose a one-size-fits-all $15 minimum wage in the face of soon-to-be-falling prices.


15 posted on 11/13/2015 3:29:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

How do you figure gas is cheaper now than in 1983? It was on average $1.24 in 1983. I don’t see ANYTHING near that low price today. Here in Florida even regular gas is hovering over $2.00 a gallon. My recent purchase a few days ago was $2.07


16 posted on 11/13/2015 4:39:46 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway
Inflation.

$1.24 in 1983 is $2.96 now. Unless you live in New Jersey or Hawaii, your gas is probably nowhere near that price.

17 posted on 11/13/2015 5:19:15 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: Blue Highway
$2.07 in 2015 was 87 cents in 1983.
18 posted on 11/13/2015 5:20:46 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: backwoods-engineer

I remember gas for 21.9 cents/gallon or less during price wars in mid ‘50s.


19 posted on 11/13/2015 5:44:02 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: thackney
I've seen gas much lower. Don't remember how low at the lowest, but I do remember buying it for about 23 cents a gallon. ...in '73, if I remember correctly, not long before it was marked up to 49 cents in one night. Bought it for a few cents less as a kid (for lawn mowers, boats, karts and the like).

You recently wrote, "Pretty hard to find gasoline at any pump that isn't unleaded." Now, you know why I mentioned "regular unleaded." After doing so for some time, it continued to be a habit for most of us.


20 posted on 11/13/2015 5:44:24 PM PST by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --"Deacon," "Waterworld")
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