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The ONLY solution to the IRS is its abolishment.


2 posted on 11/09/2015 8:05:58 AM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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Correct. All public employee unions should be outlawed, but that won’t fix the irS. JFK authorized federal unions by executive order. That opened the door for unions at every level: local, state and federal. Can’t they be outlawed the same way by President Trump?


12 posted on 11/09/2015 8:19:48 AM PST by SC_Pete
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I would propose to add a few things, for other departments after the IRS is abolished:

1. States can prosecute individual employees of fed agencies who violate the law, with full weight and credit as if they were the DOJ.

2. Individuals who cannot conclusively prove they were ordered to undertake an illegal action are personally liable for the repercussions of that action. That means, if the order isn’t in writing, the person who did the act is held responsible.

3. There is no immunity for illegal acts.

4. If the individual can prove their supervisor (or further up the chain) ordered that they perform the illegal act, the supervisor (or further up) is individually responsible for all illegal acts undertaken in pursuance of the order.

5. The liability relief discussed in item 2, above, cannot be given absent proof of the order. If there is a dispute over a verbal order, then the higher level person has to be convicted before the relief for the lower level person kicks in.

6. In the event that two or more individuals from a department inside an agency are convicted of violating the law, the supervisor of that department automatically is fired, forfeiting their pension, for their lack of supervision.

7. Any illegal acts that support or allow illegal voting (which disenfranchises legal voters) is punishable by a minimum of 10 years prison, and a maximum of life without parole.

Can you tell I’m a little hacked off? LOL


15 posted on 11/09/2015 8:25:09 AM PST by MortMan (The rule of law is now the law of rulings - Judicial, IRS, EPA...)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed; All
"The ONLY solution to the IRS is its abolishment."

Given that the Founding States made the first numbered clauses in the Constitution, Sections 1-3 of Article I, to clarify that all federal legislative powers are vested in the elected members of Congress, not in the executive or judicial branches, or in constitutionally undefined agencies like the EPA and IRS, I do not see where the IRS has the constitutional authority to exist.

In fact, Congress seems to be creating unconstitutional federal regulatory agencies for the purpose of letting such agencies make unpopular regulations that hurt our constitutional protections. And by being able to blame unpopular federal regulations on so-called ”independent federal regulatory agencies” corrupt Congress is effectively escaping the wrath of low-information voters in blatant defiance of Sections 1-3 referenced above.

Regarding why unconstitutional federal agencies exist in the first place, note that the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification Senate is not doing its job to protect the interests of the states in Congress as the Founding States had established the Senate to do. More specifically, the Senate is actually helping the likewise corrupt House to pass unconstitutional bills that help to establish unconstitutional federal agencies that boss around the states and the people.

The ill-conceived 17th Amendment needs to disappear, and corrupt senators who pass bills that help to establish unconstitutional federal agencies along with it.

20 posted on 11/09/2015 10:11:08 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Republicans have been trying to disestablish the IRS since mid 90’s. I don’t take them seriously. I believe in 20 more years well still have the IRS. I am so amazed that it is easy to get rid of it but they don’t want to. They really don’t.


22 posted on 11/09/2015 7:06:01 PM PST by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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