Posted on 11/08/2015 8:16:07 PM PST by Kaslin
The most acclaimed candidate debates in American history the Lincoln-Douglas encounters of 1858 had nothing in common with modern presidential debates: No questions from moderators, no 60-second time limits, no ricocheting from topic to topic, no real-time reaction from focus groups. No pre- and post-debate sermonizing by political pundits. No Anderson Cooper or Megyn Kelly. No presidential candidates, even. (Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas were running for the US Senate).
By comparison, today's "debates" are pitiful.
Presidential hopefuls aren't required to debate their opponents, and for most of the nation's existence they weren't expected to. Andrew Jackson didn't debate John Quincy Adams. Harry Truman didn't debate Thomas Dewey. FDR ran for president four times, and never debated anyone. Richard Nixon and John F. Kennedy broke new ground when they agreed to meet in a series of televised debates in 1960, but their innovation was slow to catch on. It took 16 years before another pair of presidential nominees, Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter, were willing to debate.
Only since the 1980s have presidential debates become routine. They have also become absurd. With each election cycle these face-offs grow less and less substantive. They aren't forums for serious arguments about national priorities and public policy, they are political entertainment like "Jeopardy!" but with fewer facts. Or like WWE Wrestling, minus the gravitas.
Television networks can't be blamed for delivering presidential debates that amount to little more than game shows and gotcha contests. Gaffes and smackdowns are good for ratings, and TV executives understandably want to deliver what viewers will watch.
But who decreed that broadcast media or any news media, for that matter must be in charge of organizing, hosting, and moderating debates? Perhaps the idea of a wholly unmoderated debate, Ã la Lincoln and Douglas, is implausible in 2015. But why must those asking the questions and keeping time always be TV news anchors? As Barbara Bush said once in a somewhat different context: "There are other people out there that are very qualified." Americans have learned to live without bank tellers, phone books, and leaded gasoline. They can probably get through election debates without the help of Chris Wallace, Candy Crowley, and Jake Tapper.
Who should moderate instead? Why not enlist some of the nation's finest teachers to pose questions to the candidates? Why not invite the Smithsonian Institution to arrange a debate, with a panel made up of Nobel Prize recipients? Why not recruit presidential historians say, Edmund Morris, Amity Shlaes, and Michael Beschloss to put would-be chief executives through their paces? For that matter, why not a debate in which the candidates are interrogated by former presidential nominees? Surely voters would be at least as interested in watching Bob Dole and Michael Dukakis grill the presidential contestants as in seeing Gwen Ifill or Bret Baier do it.
In a country overflowing with talent of all kinds, why should presidential debates be deemed the rightful province of political journalists? One of the best engagements of the 2008 presidential race was theSaddleback Civil Forum in Lake Forest, Calif., when John McCain and Barack Obama were pressed in back-to-back interviews by Rick Warren, the prominent pastor and bestselling author. Warren's questions were smart, the candidates' answers made some news, and the whole thing was covered live on national TV even though it hadn't been sponsored by any news organization.
The quadrennial gripes (from Republicans and Democrats) about media bias and unfair moderators could be avoided if the parties moved past the assumption that the laws of nature require political debates to be controlled by broadcasters.
Alternatives to the same-old, same-old are endless.
Imagine a setting in which candidates had to make their case to Sandra Day O'Connor and John Paul Stevens, retired Supreme Court justices whose skill at cutting through boilerplate and probing to the heart of an argument was honed over thousands of hours of oral argument.
Imagine candidates in a dialogue moderated by gifted, thoughtful, and eloquent theater critics, such as John Lahr or Terry Teachout. Or by a skillful panel drawn from the world of business — Microsoft founder Bill Gates, maybe, or legendary investor Jack Bogle, or Xerox CEO Ursula Burns. Or by retired foreign leaders who admire America, like Britain's Tony Blair, France's Nicolas Sarkozy, and Canada's Stephen Harper.
Presidential debates in this country have grown too numerous and shallow, and could badly use a rethink. A return to Lincoln-Douglas may not be in the cards. But ending the media monopoly would be a step in the right direction and might just restore real meaning to what has degenerated into a stilted and unworthy ritual.
I would settle for a prohibition against asking anyone to know the names of foreign leaders with oddball names, and that all moderators for democrat debates be from Fox.
And then the candidates should lose all financial incentives to run to weed out the ones just padding the retirement via contributions.
How about they just have debates at County Fairs and other live venues, all over the country? We sure as heck don’t need the ‘journalists’ to moderate these. Nobody watches TV these days anyway, and to pay them to mock the opposite party’s candidates just doesn’t sit right with me.
Why not invite the Smithsonian Institution to arrange a debate, with a panel made up of Nobel Prize recipients?
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That’s laughable. The Nobel Prize has long ago lost any meaning. Obama has one, let him moderate?
Who should moderate instead? Why not enlist some of the nation's finest teachers to pose questions to the candidates? Why not invite the Smithsonian Institution to arrange a debate, with a panel made up of Nobel Prize recipients? Why not recruit presidential historians say, Edmund Morris, Amity Shlaes, and Michael Beschloss to put would-be chief executives through their paces? For that matter, why not a debate in which the candidates are interrogated by former presidential nominees? Surely voters would be at least as interested in watching Bob Dole and Michael Dukakis grill the presidential contestants as in seeing Gwen Ifill or Bret Baier do it.
How would any of those boobs be different from the boobs we have now?
. . . and allow us to toss vegetables at them.
I think there are certainly better options than what we currently have but the ones proposed by this author seem a step down rather than a step up.
Moderators NOT REQUIRED or DESIRED.
One word questions, with each candidate allowed xx minutes to answer, with a counter by each opposing candidate for xx minutes.
Proceeded by opening statements for xx minutes, closing statements for xx minutes.
One word questions...
Economy? Comments please...
Immigration. Comments please...
National Security. Comments please...
Education. Comments please...
Simple enough?
Now that there is funny, I don't care who you are.
It's also completely accurate.
Thanks for that image.
Liberal doo-gooder and one-worlder Gates? Oh dear Lord, not Gates.
You forgot a few. I can’t watch TV as I do not have one, but does everyone at the WA Compost desereve the list? My first pick would be that rabid liberal, Chris “chillface” Cillizza. While you are at it, why not include a few radio hosts, namely Hugh “the Duane bashing and feckless humor” Hewitt? Sounds good. Maybe I should get a TV——NOT!!!
Every one of the ideas floated ignores those most affected - We the People. Why not debates moderated by randomly selected people across this geographic entity?
>>The most acclaimed candidate debates in American history the Lincoln-Douglas encounters of 1858 had nothing in common with modern presidential debates: No questions from moderators, no 60-second time limits, no ricocheting from topic to topic, no real-time reaction from focus groups. No pre- and post-debate sermonizing by political pundits. No Anderson Cooper or Megyn Kelly. No presidential candidates, even. (Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas were running for the US Senate).
No commercial breaks
How about the founder of Chick-Fil-A, or the CEO of Hobby Lobby, or the inventor and former CEO behind Firefox?
Today’s debate are structured so the moderator can maintain control over what the candidate says. It’s all about control. And we live in such a rule based society that it mostly works. (My favorite was when Giuliani was running and the stage was full of candidates. The moderator said, “Everybody who believes in Global Warming raise your hand. It was like a third grade class. I turned it off.)
I agree with the author. Let the candidates articulate their vision of what the country should do.
Sorta like being examined on the subject of fastballs by Nolan Ryan and Dennis Eckersly.
Foreign policy? Hmmm, is George Schultz still available? Henry the K sure is .... how about John Bolton and Schultz?
I'd like to see Hillary getting grilled on Benghazi by a guy named Moncrieff Y. Spear, who was U.S. consul in Da Nang when the wheels came off. He knows a thing or nine about crisis diplomacy and survival time. As in, "Go ahead and park your tanks on the beach and swim out to the ships. Do it now. The NVA are right behind us."
Yeah, Hill, what would you do? What did you counsel your ambassador to do? By the way, where was your boss?
Better still, let Dr. K. "examine" her ..... it'd be like a procto exam with ocotillo cactus .... the mighty Henry the K, examining the poseur, the fake, the inflated ego .... one mighty ego circling another, like a scene out of Jurassic World, Henry sniffing the scent of blood as he sizes up his big, fat, cankled prey..... it'd be epic. They could show it in movie theaters and charge admission, like "The Thrilla in Manila". I'd pay to see it, me.
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