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These pro-choice arguments are eerily similar to pro-slavery arguments
LifeSiteNews ^ | 11/5/15 | Murray Vasser

Posted on 11/06/2015 10:33:42 AM PST by wagglebee

November 5, 2015 (LiveActionNews) -- Some arguments used today against the pro-life movement echo the arguments used in the 19th century against the abolition movement. Here’s a list of four:

Argument #1

Today: Pro-lifers are obsessed with outlawing abortion, but they don’t demonstrate any concern for children after they are born.

19th Century: Abolitionists are obsessed with outlawing slavery, but they don’t demonstrate any concern for slaves after they attain freedom.

Having, by satanic promises and fair words, charmed away many of those docile and credulous creatures, they abandoned them to their own unfortunate fate… the negro is degraded, a vagabond and an outcast… and always used as the medium of self-laudation by the hypocrite…The people do not understand him – do not care for him – feel that they have no special interest in him – have no sympathy, that is not purely objective, with him – and treat him only as a medium of “moral” excitement. (T. W. MacMahon, Cause and Contrast: an Essay on the American Crisis, 67-68)

Response: Even if abolitionists did not care about escaped slaves, it would not change the fact that slavery is barbaric and should be illegal. Likewise, even if pro-lifers do not care about born children, it would not change the fact that abortion is barbaric and should be illegal. (And by the way, pro-lifers do care about born children. See Helen Alvaré’s piece on “The Lazy Slander of the Pro-Life Cause.”)

Argument #2

Today: Pro-Lifers pretend to be humanitarians but are really motivated by partisan politics.

19th Century: Abolitionists pretend to be humanitarians but are really motivated by partisan politics.

It is not religion, but politics, which now excites the passions of men; and our subtle enemy [the Devil] adapts himself adroitly to the change of circumstances, wearing the robe of Christian philanthropy to give him influence with pious minds, but relying on political zeal to stir them up to action. That is the reason why my publications against the heresy of ultra-abolitionism attracted no notice from you or your clergy, until the Democratic party thought fit to use them…Then, the ecclesiastical thunder began to roll in the Vatican of Pennsylvania. And then, the lighting flash of your redoubtable Protest, was launched at my devoted head without delay, under the powerful excitement of political expediency! (John Henry Hopkins, A Scriptural, Ecclesiastical, and Historical View of Slavery, 352)

Response: Even if abolitionists were motivated by something less than true humanitarianism, it would not change the fact that slavery is barbaric and should be illegal. Likewise, even if pro-lifers are motivated by something less than true humanitarianism, it does not change the fact that abortion is barbaric and should be illegal.

Argument #3

Today: Pro-lifers expend all their energy attempting to outlaw abortion while ignoring far worse social evils.

19th Century: Abolitionists expend all their energy attempting to outlaw slavery while ignoring far worse social evils.

Philanthropy was, or is, too deeply occupied with the negro to expend any of its “charity” upon the starving white wretches [impoverished European laborers], who stood, or stand, trembling, and almost lifeless, at its doors. Blind to the excruciating slavery that surrounds it, it sounds the tocsin of pity and sympathy on behalf of the well fed, well clothed, and well cared for, negroes of America. (T. W. MacMahon, Cause and Contrast: an Essay on the American Crisis, 74-75)

Response: Even if abolitionists were hypocrites, it would not change the fact that slavery is barbaric and should be illegal. Likewise, even if pro-lifers are hypocrites, it does not change the fact that abortion is barbaric and should be illegal.

Argument #4

Today: Pro-lifers grossly exaggerate the cruelty of abortion; painful late-term procedures are very rare.

19th Century: Abolitionists grossly exaggerate the cruelty of slavery; the mistreatment of slaves is very rare.

We have no reason to question the assurances of the Southern clergy, concerning the justice and kindliness of the treatment which the slaves receive, as the general rule, notwithstanding occasional exceptions. (John Henry Hopkins,A Scriptural, Ecclesiastical, and Historical View of Slavery, 350)

Response: This is total nonsense. Slavery was anything but kind, and every year in America, over 12,000 abortions are performed in the sixth month of pregnancy or later. More importantly, even if such atrocities were rare, it does not follow that they should be legal! Consider the words of Harriet Beecher Stowe:

It is said, “Very likely such cases [of extreme brutality against slaves] may now and then occur, but they are no sample of general practice.” If the laws of New England were so arranged that a master could now and then torture an apprentice to death, without a possibility of being brought to justice, would it be received with equal composure? Would it be said, “These cases are rare, and no samples of general practice?” (Uncle Tom’s Cabin)

Reprinted with permission from Live Action News


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; moralabsolutes; prolife
More importantly, the Fourteenth Amendment established personhood for ALL people including those not yet born.
1 posted on 11/06/2015 10:33:42 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 11/06/2015 10:34:12 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 11/06/2015 10:34:38 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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14th yes..but Roe v. Wade didn’t read that one.


4 posted on 11/06/2015 10:35:01 AM PST by Paul46360
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5 posted on 11/06/2015 10:40:20 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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14th yes..but Roe v. Wade didn’t read that one.

Actually it did.

Blackmun's opinion spells out EXACTLY what needs to be done to end the American Holocaust.

6 posted on 11/06/2015 10:41:21 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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In regard to #4, I still remember the sense of what Fredrick Douglas said about slavery. He believed the moral damage done to people’s souls was as great with the slave owner as the slave. Few could hope to survive that level of dominance over other humans without committing regrettable, unspeakable acts.


7 posted on 11/06/2015 10:51:10 AM PST by Retain Mike
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I believe that the moral damage done to the slave owner was actually GREATER than that done to the slave in most cases. Certainly their were truly evil slave owners, but there is a lot of evidence that many slave owners had a difficult reconciling slavery with their own consciences.
8 posted on 11/06/2015 10:53:45 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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"Blackmun's opinion spells out EXACTLY what needs to be done to end the American Holocaust."

Please help me out - tell us what he said about what is needed to be done to end abortion. I couldn't find what you are talking about. Thanks much.

9 posted on 11/06/2015 11:21:50 AM PST by jackibutterfly (In this world when the body can be taken at any moment, it would be wise to reconnect with your soul)
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From the Roe opinion:

The appellee and certain amici argue that the fetus is a "person" within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. In support of this, they outline at length and in detail the well known facts of fetal development. If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant's case, of course, collapses, for the fetus' right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the Amendment. The appellant conceded as much on reargument.

There is NOTHING to stop Congress from acknowledging the personhood of the unborn; it doesn't need to go back to the Supreme Court, it just needs to be done.

10 posted on 11/06/2015 11:46:10 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
I saw that point repeatedly expressed by Mary Chesnut in her biography of the Civil War. Of course being part of the southern aristocracy, she was nor able to measure the relative moral damage.
11 posted on 11/06/2015 12:43:42 PM PST by Retain Mike
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You are of course right. And yet here we are, 40 plus years later without that action. Without those words codified into law. And we both have a pretty good feel for why and the nature of the codependency between ProLife Inc and antiLife Inc.

Actually, you posted something on that some months ago that I thought was extremely insightful. Could I humbly ask you to put it out as a vanity/FReeper editorial?


12 posted on 11/06/2015 2:00:22 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Voting is self-abuse - without the pleasure.)
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