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SHOCK: JERRY BROWN USED STATE EXPERTS TO SEEK OIL ON FAMILY LAND
breitbart ^ | november 5, 2015 | joel b. pollak

Posted on 11/05/2015 10:17:10 AM PST by lowbridge

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To: Theodore R.

I’m not saying Reagan was an unimportant governor so much that he was simply overwhelmed by the liberal Browns before and after him.


21 posted on 11/05/2015 11:49:37 AM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Gosh, who does he think he is? Obama? Hillary? George Soros?

22 posted on 11/05/2015 11:52:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Spain lost control of California in 1822

Yes dear, I KNOW, but the CLAIM to the land that Mexico inherited came from Spain and the two treaties concluded with the Pope and the King of Portugal: The Treaty of Tordesillas (1495) and the Treaty of Zaragosa (1529).

The land grants given after 1821 (the first Mexican revolution) by the Gobernadors (Pio Pico for example) were based on the authority originally granted under those treaties, passing into the hands of the newly independent Mexican nation.

23 posted on 11/05/2015 11:54:19 AM PST by Regulator
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SHOCK: JERRY BROWN USED STATE EXPERTS TO SEEK OIL ON FAMILY LAND

What's the "SHOCK"? That he is a crooked, leftist, career politician like his daddy that doesn't think twice about abusing his office and the taxpayers?

24 posted on 11/05/2015 11:56:21 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Politicians should be forced to wear the logos of the special interest groups they are beholden to.)
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To: Regulator

So the King of Spain had nothing to do with it by the time the Bear Flag Republic came around. Honey.


25 posted on 11/05/2015 12:06:25 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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You're still misunderstanding it. The lands in question were originally owned by the King of Spain, and the only authority the Mexicans had to keep it was by reference to King Ferdinand's original treaty. Thus every Mexican land grant after 1821 was based on the original treaty:

In 1493, after reports of Columbus’s discoveries had reached them, the Spanish rulers Ferdinand and Isabella enlisted papal support for their claims to the New World in order to inhibit the Portuguese and other possible rival claimants. To accommodate them, the Spanish-born pope Alexander VI issued bulls setting up a line of demarcation from pole to pole 100 leagues (about 320 miles) west of the Cape Verde Islands. Spain was given exclusive rights to all newly discovered and undiscovered lands in the region west of the line. Portuguese expeditions were to keep to the east of the line. Neither power was to occupy any territory already in the hands of a Christian ruler.

No other European powers facing the Atlantic Ocean ever accepted this papal disposition or the subsequent agreement deriving from it. King John II of Portugal was dissatisfied because Portugal’s rights in the New World were insufficiently affirmed, and the Portuguese would not even have sufficient room at sea for their African voyages. Meeting at Tordesillas, in northwestern Spain, Spanish and Portuguese ambassadors reaffirmed the papal division, but the line itself was moved to 370 leagues (1,185 miles) west of the Cape Verde Islands, or about 46°30′ W of Greenwich. Pope Julius II finally sanctioned the change in 1506. The new boundary enabled Portugal to claim the coast of Brazil after its discovery by Pedro Álvares Cabral in 1500. Brazilian exploration and settlement far to the west of the line of demarcation in subsequent centuries laid a firm basis for Brazil’s claims to vast areas of the interior of South America.

It is precisely the Anglo Protestant opposition to the Catholic Spaniard King's claims that resulted in the occupation and establishment of North America. If the English had bowed to the Pope, Spanish might be the dominant language now in North America. But probably not, as the Russians would have simply continued their campaign down the West Coast in the 19th century.

It was the Protestant Americans who prevented both that and the Papal Bull from being the final outcome.

And which Mexico is currently trying to reverse with its war policy of Immivasion, similar to the Caliphate strategy being conducted in Europe.

26 posted on 11/05/2015 12:39:49 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator
The lands in question were originally owned by the King of Spain

I should say, "claimed". They never owned it. Certainly not from my perspective.

27 posted on 11/05/2015 12:40:52 PM PST by Regulator
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To: lowbridge

Oh, that was just so they’d know if the property had to be held in a blind trust, y’know...

Believe that? I got this great bridge for sale, between Brooklyn and...


28 posted on 11/05/2015 1:13:37 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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But his dirt is sacred. Bet he has armed guards?

That kind of rent-a-guards are easy pickin's when TSHTF.

29 posted on 11/05/2015 1:15:36 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: lowbridge

Let me make a citizens arrest. I will make sure moonbeam doesn’t make it and then have quentin fagatino yell about me.


30 posted on 11/05/2015 2:24:51 PM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: longfellow

I believe “citizen’s arrests” are only allowed for felonies; but is this a potential felony. Not for a popular Californian


31 posted on 11/05/2015 5:05:25 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Spain gave up its claim to CA in 1821; Russia, in 1824. MX claimed it until 1848.


32 posted on 11/05/2015 6:24:25 PM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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