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Shutdown coming? Paul Ryan won’t rule out rider to defund Planned Parenthood in next funding bill
Hotair ^ | 11/04/2015 | AllahPundit

Posted on 11/04/2015 7:47:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The government runs out of money on December 11th and the most pro-abortion president in history has vowed not to sign any bills that make funding the government contingent upon defunding Planned Parenthood. Surely this is the moment for a Republican Speaker to crap away any leverage he might have by vowing to prevent a shutdown at all costs, right?

Not this time.

“This is the legislative branch and the power of the purse rests within the legislative branch and we fully expect that we’re going to exercise that power,” Ryan told reporters Tuesday morning.

That statement marks a break with Ryan’s predecessor, John Boehner, who developed a habit of pledging not to pass funding bills that would risk a government shutdown by provoking a presidential veto. The new, firmer stance could potentially put Ryan at odds with Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.), who has also sworn to avoid government shutdowns. But it could also help Ryan mollify the conservative backbenchers who have accused GOP leaders of preemptively surrendering to Obama.

One of the demands the Freedom Caucus made of Ryan was for a return to regular order, i.e. letting bills originate in committee and amending them as the majority desires instead of having the Speaker’s office drop a prefab bill on the conference at the last second and asking them to approve it as is. If Ryan meets that demand, he could be stuck: The House’s GOP majority could vote to add a rider to a funding bill, all but guaranteeing a Democratic filibuster in the Senate. If he doesn’t meet that demand, though, he could also be stuck. It’d be a bad start to his Speakership if he blinked at a shutdown fight over a bill that’s highly popular with cultural conservatives.

Unless, that is, the House’s conservatives cut him some slack on it. Hmmmm.

A few dozen hardline conservatives were ready to shut down the government last month over Planned Parenthood. But after new Speaker Paul Ryan remarked over the weekend that defunding the group probably isn’t going to happen, several of the conservative firebrands greeted the remark with a shrug…

“We’re absolutely committed to it,” said Rep. Trent Franks, one of the most outspoken critics of Planned Parenthood. “I think Paul is as committed to protecting the unborn….as much of any of us. The problem is he is as capable as any of us at mathematical addition and subtraction.”…

Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.) said as long as Ryan gives Republicans a chance during committee votes to attempt and defund the health care organization, the Wisconsin Republican won’t draw the ire of hardliners.

In theory, a clean process here might solve Ryan’s political problem. If he lets conservatives amend the funding bill to attach a rider defunding Planned Parenthood and brings it to a vote, maybe they’ll reward him by voting for a clean bill once the Senate shoots down the first one. But then, maybe not. One of the main knocks on Boehner was that he wasn’t willing to play chicken with Obama by tolerating a shutdown apart from the brief one in 2013. If conservatives think they can win a political fight with O over PP and the sting videos, why not demand that Ryan force a shutdown and see how that shakes out? Is it because they … don’t think they would win that battle? Or is it because they know as well as Ryan does that a shutdown in the middle of a presidential campaign could be a big problem for the nominee next fall?

Or is it because Ryan’s in the middle of making other concessions that will make the Freedom Caucus happy enough that they won’t want to go to war with him (yet)?

In his first extended meeting with House Republicans, Ryan made clear that he would make some changes, according to lawmakers present. One of those changes: He would alter the makeup of the House Steering Committee before Thanksgiving — a key demand of conservatives who want more say in the decision-making process. That panel, typically dominated by the speaker’s office, makes important decisions on assigning members to plum committee spots, but Ryan has privately said he would install a more diverse group of members to help dole out those assignments.

Here’s Ryan this morning at his first presser as Speaker suggesting that nothing is off the table and this weekend on CNN making it sound like he’s awfully reluctant to make any obviously futile moves against Planned Parenthood. Curious to see how this circle will be squared.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congress; paulryan; plannedparenthood; shutdown
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1 posted on 11/04/2015 7:47:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Mr. Ryan, you've been talkin’ big lately...don't disappoint.
2 posted on 11/04/2015 7:48:51 AM PST by ryan71 (Bibles, Beans and Bullets)
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone obtuse enough to believe Ryan?

LOL


3 posted on 11/04/2015 7:49:45 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: ryan71

Exactly. My only hope here is that Ryan is a savvy thinker and communicator. If they construct it well, they could pull it off. Start a fund of equal dollars to go to rural women’s health and move the dollars 1-1 over to a non-controversial source. It’s a political winner.


4 posted on 11/04/2015 7:50:27 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll believe it when I see it. The Republicans haven’t done anything but act tough, and cower in the corner. Why would they do anything different now? They’re gutless wonders.


5 posted on 11/04/2015 7:52:24 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: SeekAndFind

“One of the demands the Freedom Caucus made of Ryan was for a return to regular order, i.e. letting bills originate in committee and amending them as the majority desires instead of having the Speaker’s office drop a prefab bill on the conference at the last second and asking them to approve it as is.”

This would be a very good thing, even if conservatives don’t finally get everything they want. Isn’t it amazing that Boehner pulled crap like dropping completed bills on the conference at the last second? What scum! Why even have the House if the speaker himself acts like a king? We already have enough of that in Obama.


6 posted on 11/04/2015 7:53:56 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: SeekAndFind

John Boehner was a tough talker also ,but then he had a few drinks


7 posted on 11/04/2015 7:55:09 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: ryan71

Why exactly later rather than sooner? Why ‘next budget?’

In a year from now that he’ll boast about the hard line he’s gonna take, but then figures out how to delay the vote past the Presidential Election?

We have fallen for this lying, equivocating duplicitous sh!t for decades from these people. Statistics prove they will screw conservatism and appease liberals.


8 posted on 11/04/2015 7:57:52 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama will ask to quadruple funding for PP and Ryan will save the day by “slashing the budget” by only tripling it... which will of course cause liberals to claim that Republicans sent women back to the stone age. The MSM will proclaim that Hillary is the only one who can save women from the right wing’s barbaric tyranny.


9 posted on 11/04/2015 8:00:45 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: ryan71
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10 posted on 11/04/2015 8:05:09 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Gaffer

We need both house AND the White house. That veto pen simply can’t be overcome right now.


11 posted on 11/04/2015 8:05:22 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

This (the executive branch and CONgre$$) is the most evil government in the history of the republic, after what has been revealed to us about Planned Pre-Meditated Pulling Apart Babies for Profit. We are FORCED to pay for these deceivers - this death cult.

ZERO REPRESENTATION on fundamental aspects of life, liberty and the slaughter of the innocent.

DEFUND


12 posted on 11/04/2015 8:08:24 AM PST by PGalt
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Anyone obtuse enough to believe Ryan?


13 posted on 11/04/2015 8:12:50 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: Sacajaweau
We need both house AND the White house. That veto pen simply can’t be overcome right now.

That didn't work out so well when Dubya was in the WH.

14 posted on 11/04/2015 8:14:11 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi! My vote is going to Cruz.)
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To: Night Hides Not

“That didn’t work out so well when Dubya was in the WH. “

Yep!


15 posted on 11/04/2015 8:21:27 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: SeekAndFind

Boob bait for Bubba.


16 posted on 11/04/2015 8:26:43 AM PST by skeeter
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Trust, but verify. RWR


17 posted on 11/04/2015 8:36:23 AM PST by matthew fuller (BHO strategy: anti-American, anti-Western, pro-Islamic, pro-Iranian, and pro-Muslim Brotherhood.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I don’t believe one word the azzes say anymore. Has been working quite well for me. lol


18 posted on 11/04/2015 9:05:05 AM PST by sheana
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To: sheana

My tagline speaks for me : )


19 posted on 11/04/2015 9:19:40 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Why would anyone believe him?

The days of hope are long gone. With Romney giving the third debate to Obama all the hope that we had which was by then just about gone - no one is surprised he threw that debate and election

It is long gone. Anything boehner did from there. Oh and hey look at where Ryan is in comparison to those examples

Ryan is a horrible train wreck about to happen and which will go on for years. Pricks don’t step aside for any reason but their own


20 posted on 11/04/2015 10:21:43 AM PST by stanne
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