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Time for a united front on climate change
Sacramento Bee ^ | October 29, 2015

Posted on 10/30/2015 7:30:57 AM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: IYAS9YAS

[[I have yet to have any climate ninny explain to me just exactly what the proper climate should be.]]

Good question, and another good one to ask them is “How on earth can man’s piddly contribution of CO2 to the atmosphere, which amounts to 0.0036% possibly capture enough escaping heat, then back radiate a FRACTION of that insignificant amount back to earth, to wamr the earth globally?”

Watch their eyes glaze over, and listen to them stammer for an answer-

Folks- the amount of CO2 In the atmosphere due to man comprises just 0.0036% of the atmosphere- That’s it! There is NO thick blanket of CO2 In the atmosphere preventing heat from escaping- There isn’t even a thin layer- there is so little CO2 in our atmosphere that ANYONE claiming that it is causing global warming should be ASHAMED of themselves! ANYONE claiming it is causing global climate change is a bald-faced Liar!


21 posted on 10/30/2015 9:44:47 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: artichokegrower
Inhofe, a climate denier...

I stopped reading there. People who have as little respect for the English language than they do for science are not worth the time.

By "united front" these people mean that no dissent will be allowed. Or else. The Sacramento Bee is cribbing from Der Sturmer here...

22 posted on 10/30/2015 9:45:47 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: artichokegrower
LIES About 'Man-Caused' Global Warming

1: Man-made CO2 emissions throughout human history amounts to less than 0.00022 percent of the total CO2 from the earth's mantle.

2:Warming happens 800 years BEFORE CO2rises (This alone refutes the LIE that CO2 causes climate change)

3: Despite a huge surge in CO2 in the 30's and 40's, temperatures actually dropped for 4 decades afterwards (again proving CO2does not cause warming)

4: The atmosphere contains just 0.0036% CO2 produced by man (FAR too little CO2 to do anything- it's simply impossible for such a small amount to affect global climates)

5: The atmosphere contains just 0.04% CO2 produced by nature and man combined (again, an amount that is FAR too small to cause any change in global climates)

6: Most of the tiny amount of heat captured by atmospheric CO2 gets radiated out to space, not back to earth

7: What little heat actually gets back radiated to earth quickly reaches equilibrium because there is so little of it compared to earth's air (which is now cooler and overwhelms the tiny amount of warmer air that was back radiated- Think about pouring a cup of 80 Degree water into an Olympic sized pool of 70 Degree water- The warmer water does nothing to affect the overall pool's temperature because there simply is not enough warmer water to change the pool's temps)

8: Ice-core data clearly show that temperatures change centuries before concentrations of atmospheric CO2 change

9: There has been no warming since 1998 DESPITE the fact that CO2 has increased during these two decades (again refuting the idea that "CO2 causes warming")

10: Science shows that it is changing temperatures that raise or lower CO2 levels- NOT the other way around. CO2 does not cause climate change- period.

11: Scientists claim global Wagnerian will result in greater storms, earthquakes and natural disasters, however, over the last century, this has proven untrue

12: The world “warmed” by 0.07 +/- 0.07 degrees C from 1999 to 2008- It did not warm by the .22 that climate scientists claimed that it would

13: It is a lie that CO2 is 'the most abundant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere". Greenhouse gases comprise 3% of the atmosphere- CO2 comprises just 0.04% 14: Today’s CO2 concentration of around 385 ppm is very low. PPM's have been more than 10 times higher in the past

15: The slight increase in temperatures since 1900 is well within the normal range for natural cyclical warming trends

16: While the arctic is currently warming, this is fully inline with natural cyclical warming trends, The antarctic is currently getting colder, which refutes the claim of "global warming"

17: It is a LIE that there is a 'scientific Consensus" that believes that man is causing climate change.

18: It is a LIE to claim that 98% of scientists believe that man is causing climate change. There are over 6000 scientists and professionals who claim man is NOT causing climate change, and only a handful of scientists and professionals who claim man is to blame, and these folks are almost entirely subsidized by the world's governments

19: The science is Not settled! Scientists do not even know all the mechanics behind global warming and cooling trends- But to hear Al Gore speak, one would think that scientists fully understand what changes climates- they do Not!

20: ClimateGate was a blatant attempt to conceal evidence that did not fit the alarmist rallying cries of the left that man is causing climate change. It was a deceitful shameful attempt to sway public opinion using lies created by hiding evidence

21: Climate has always changed, and it always will. Claiming that prior to the industrial revolution the Earth had a “stable” climate is a LIE.

22: Temperature Measurements made via weather balloons and satellites since the late 1950s show that there has been no atmospheric warming.

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23 posted on 10/30/2015 9:47:24 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Buckeye McFrog
...Vlad Putin came out the other day and said that climate change is total BS.

Them are fighting words to Obummer. ObOzO will fight to the last American for global warming.

24 posted on 10/30/2015 9:50:32 AM PDT by depressed in 06
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To: Bob434
Let’s do some math-

The total mass of Earth’s atmosphere is about 5.5 quadrillion tons,

Man has produced how many tons of CO2 over the industrial age?

What % of the earth’s atmospheric tonnage does that amount to? I’m probably being too conservative) We have produced only 0.00022% of ALL CO2 in the atmosphere- that’s it- and since natural CO2 is just .004% of the atmosphere- that means we’re only responsible for such a SMALL % of the total atmosphere that it’s not even significant in the slightest- there is simply NO way man can be responsible for global climate change- none!

‘Scientists’ should be ASHAMED of themselves for even suggesting man is responsible!

Our atmosphere is comprised of 6 quadrillion tons of molecules- 6 quadrillion folks! ALL natural and man made CO2 amounts to just 8 billion tons- That is NOTHING compared to the sheer volume of atmosphere- it practically doesn’t even register- it is such a small portion of our atmosphere that there is absolutely NO way such a small amount can capture near enough heat to raise our earths temps one iota- period!

[[[[2) Man-made carbon dioxide emissions throughout human history constitute less than 0.00022 percent of the total naturally emitted from the mantle of the earth during geological history.]]

Of course it’s relevant- climates change all the time- CO2 spikes all the time- There is no scientific doubt about that- and to try to blame climate change on 0.00022% of the atmosphere is ludicrous regardless of how old you might think the earth is- the fact remains the total amount of CO2 produced by man for the whole of the industrial age is just 0.00022% in relation to the total tonnage of atmosphere- please explain to everyone how just 0.00022% of the atmosphere can cause global climate change? Please explain how just 0.00022% of our atmosphere can capture enough escaping heat, then back radiate a FRACTION of that heat back to earth to cause climate temps to rise? (and note, I’m being generous because not all of the 0.00022% over the industrial age is still I n the atmosphere

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25 posted on 10/30/2015 9:50:57 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

If CO2 wasn’t heavier than air, there’d be no plant life in the sea. No plant life, no life.

Funny how there was little controversy about CFCs. Reason for it was that the experiments set up to show CFCs were wrecking the ozone layer were easy to replicate and convincing scientifically.

The political class probably just surmised that this tactic worked pretty well on Galileo, might just work again.


26 posted on 10/30/2015 9:54:08 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Bob434
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Our Government is Pushing Lies About the Climate

[[Our own government has given out what is presumably scientific information about global warming that is proven false. The following is an example.

The definition of “greenhouse gases” of the U. S. Energy Information Association (EIA) and their effect is: “Many chemical compounds found in the Earth’s atmosphere act as “greenhouse gases.” These gases allow sunlight to enter the atmosphere freely. When sunlight strikes the Earth’s surface, some of it is reflected back towards space as infrared radiation (heat). Greenhouse gases absorb this infrared radiation and trap the heat in the atmosphere. Over time, the amount of energy sent from the sun to the Earth’s surface should be about the same as the amount of energy radiated back into space, leaving the temperature of the Earth’s surface roughly constant. Many gases exhibit these “greenhouse” properties. Some of them occur in nature (water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide), while others are exclusively human-made (like gases used for aerosols).”[24] The highlighted statements are false on their face, and they are the primary basis of the claims that greenhouse gases cause global warming.

The falsity of the above statements that greenhouse gases have a one way effect, allowing “sunlight to enter the atmosphere freely” and then trapping and holding the heat near the earth, should be apparent to anyone with a little bit of common sense. They even include water vapor, which is a part of clouds It is ridiculous, and it is disgraceful.

The Encyclopedia of Earth states: “Only about 40% of the solar energy intercepted at the top of Earth’s atmosphere passes through to the surface. The atmosphere reflects and scatters some of the received visible radiation. Gamma rays, X-rays, and ultraviolet radiation less than 200 nanometers in wavelength are selectively absorbed in the atmosphere by oxygen and nitrogen and turned into heat energy. Most of the solar ultraviolet radiation with a range of wavelengths from 200 to 300 nm is absorbed by the concentration of ozone (O3) gas found in the stratosphere. Infrared solar radiation with wavelengths greater than 700 nm is partially absorbed by carbon dioxide, ozone, and water present in the atmosphere in liquid and vapour forms. Roughly 30% of the sun’s visible radiation (wavelengths from 400 nm to 700 nm) is reflected back to space by the atmosphere or the Earth’s surface.”[25] [Emphasis added.]

One important thing disclosed by the above is that we have infrared solar radiation coming from the sun that is absorbed by carbon dioxide. This keeps it from ever reaching the earth, and protects against global warming. The global warmers never talk about this critical aspect – they only talk about the infrared heat waves coming back from the earth.]]

You will hear a great many ‘man-caused climate change’ advocates explain in great detail how infrared heat that is captured by CO2 I nthe atmosphere, and how it gets back radiate to earth, and how that is what is ‘causing climate change’ yet you will never hear them discussing the fact that what little CO2 there is I n atmosphere, along with ‘greenhouse gases’ actually protect this planet from overheating and cancel out any piddly amount of infrared heat that is captured by the whopping 0.00022% CO2 by volume in our atmosphere that man has produced

I’ve asked time and time again for someone to explain how just 0.00137% of our atmosphere can capture enough heat, then back radiate it at a fraction of the volume it captured it at, to cause global climate change

If only 0.00022% of 6 quadrillion tons of atmosphere is actually capturing infrared heat from earth as a direct result of man- then there is no way on this green earth that that tiny fraction of captured heat can warm the planet’s 6 quadrillion tons of air

Take a glass full of 98 Degree water- then take a dropper, fill it with 0.00022% by volume 98 degrees water, let the glass water cool down to 97 degrees, and plop that 0.00022% water into that glass and tell me how it will raise the overall temperature of the glasswater? one iota?

It’s not like the whole atmosphere is completely sealed off and NEVER letting any heat out- infact, the vast majority, nearly 100% of earth’s infrared heat, goes right on out to space because there simply is nothing to speak of to stop it- and man’s piddly 0.00022% or less even, for them to claim that that amount is causing climate change on a global scale, (remember, they have made the false statement that ‘Man is almost entirely responsible for climate change” AND “We are 98% sure now that man is causing climate change” is just ridiculous- they should be ashamed of themselves for touting such a blatant lie! 0.00022% of our atmosphere will NEVER be able to capture enough heat to cause ANY kind of change to our earth’s temperatures!

27 posted on 10/30/2015 9:54:51 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

The issue is cause and effect. Higher temperatures will slowly increase the production of CO2 based on increased biological activity. That increase is always followed by increase in plant growth.


28 posted on 10/30/2015 10:08:34 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

[[Higher temperatures will slowly increase the production of CO2]]

800 to 1400 years later- which goes to prove CO2 does Not cause global climate change-

Ice core samples bear this fact out


29 posted on 10/30/2015 10:36:15 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: artichokegrower

Rather than just continuing to argue about whether or not the Earth is warming we need to demand the alarmists describe their remedy. Even if we end ALL carbon emissions it would take centuries to stop the warming according to the alarmists. I guarantee people will be outraged at having to close all power plants, give up their cars, planes, beef, home heating/cooling etc. for no gain. FORCE THE ALARMISTS TO ADMIT WHAT THEY WANT. Its not just relacing incandescent bulbs and using ethanol in gas.


30 posted on 10/30/2015 11:04:25 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: artichokegrower
The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientifictechnological elite. - Eisenhower’s “Military-Industrial Complex” Speech

31 posted on 10/30/2015 12:59:39 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: artichokegrower

Jan the man speaking at U of California...”it’s a moral imperative.” LOL Democrats hate morals as much as they hate human life and American freedom. They are manipulators and liars.

With agenda 2030, their solution to the non-problem of the Climate daring to change, they can force homosexuality on everyone, kill a ton of people and end american freedom with the stroke of a pen, all based on deceit.


32 posted on 10/31/2015 9:00:02 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: from occupied ga

Well since I gave up on newspapers almost 20 years ago, the closest I can think of would be the National Enquirer and Mad Magazine.

I am convinced that a lot of the problems our nation is dealing with today is because the left does not have to worry about their action or their lies because the media for the most part has their back.


33 posted on 11/04/2015 3:49:31 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (Nothing to add at the moment)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
I am convinced that a lot of the problems our nation is dealing with today is because the left does not have to worry about their action or their lies because the media for the most part has their back.

I believe it was Rubio who said that the media is the Democrat's largest super-PAC

34 posted on 11/04/2015 4:19:40 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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