SMH over anyone who identifies primarily with a denomination. It’s stupid for Donald and it’s stupid for Ben. Here’s what would have been REALLY classy from Ben: “I’m a Christian and I go to a Seventh Day Adventist church. It is Christ that has made me a Christian. Don’t know about Donald, though he’s welcome to tell us.”
It’s not just his religion we are worried about, it’s everything about him:
If Iowans think Carson is their cup of tea believe me, he is a snake in the grass:
Ben Carson Pretends He Doesn’t Really Want To End Medicare By Heather
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As we already discussed here, GOP presidential candidate and former neurosurgeon Ben Carson told Politico that he wants to replace Medicare and Medicaid with cradle-to-grave health savings accounts. When asked by Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace if he really wants to put an end to Medicare, Carson stammered and stuttered his way through the interview and tried to pretend that’s not what he wants to do, even though we all know that would be the end result if you move the funds from one program to the other.
Here’s more from The Hill on Carson’s train wreck of an interview on Fox: Ben Carson says he won’t end Medicare: Republican Ben Carson on Sunday rejected the notion that he will end Medicare if he is elected president. “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace asked Carson if his plan was to end the program, which serves 49 million senior citizens. “That’s completely false, Carson said. “That’s a narrative someone’s putting out there to scare people.”
Carson said the program he’s outlined uses health savings accounts starting from the time a person is born until their death to largely eliminate the needs for people to be dependent on government programs. “I would never get rid of the programs,” he said. “I would provide people with an alternative and I think they will see the alternative we’re going to outline is so much better than anything else.”
Wallace pushed Carson on what appeared to be a policy change, asking him if people will have a choice between health savings accounts and the traditional Medicare “I do not believe in imposing things on people,” Carson said. “I believe in presenting things that are so attractive that people will quickly migrate to them.”
It’s pretty bad when even a host on Fox isn’t buying the B.S. you’re shoveling. Wallace pushed and pushed Carson on where the money would come from for his program, and Carson either doesn’t even understand what his own health care proposal would do, or he’s just lying through his teeth.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/17/top-carson-aide-wants-taxpayers-to-fund-farrakhan/
https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates/candidates/ben-carson#article-11
http://www.unz.com/article/the-ben-carson-money-machine/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/ben-carson-liberal-views-2016
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ben-Carson-race-divide-cameras/2014/11/30/id/610131/
http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/10/dr-ben-carson-says-al-sharpton-and-i-have-the-same-goals/#WeUr0xizscWSsjA7.99
k Ben Carson is up to the job, think again...
I should correct one thing. Adventists don’t believe the dead are unconscious. The term sleeping is just a more gentle way to say nonexistent. Adventists believe that life is the combination of the breath of life and the physics body. When they are separated, that person ceases to exist.
The ones I know are also vegetarians. Good people, though. The Seventh Day hospital system in Colorado is one of the top hospital systems.
As long as he is not a Muzzie leghumper like our current Anus in Chief... His Religiosity is not a concern for me.
Not wanting to start a religion bashing thread here, but SDA is based on the prophecies and teachings of Ellen G. White, who made several prophecies that did not come true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Disappointment
One of the founders of the 7th Day Adventists was William Miller who believed Jesus would return to Earth in 1844.
Most of the 7th day Adventists I’ve heard of are black...like Prince and Sheila Jackson Lee.
Ben Carson is wrong on the 2nd Amendment and that makes him too risky to me.
When he was on Glenn Beck’s show he said that he thought the 2nd Amendment applied to people differently based upon where they lived. According to Carson if you live in a city you have no right to own a semi-automatic firearm but he might be okay with some rural people owning such weapons.
Sorry, but right there he’s dead to me.
Seventh Day Aventists make great comic books!
I don’t have anything against SDA, but I do have a question if someone knows...
The part about the righteous ruling in heaven with Christ and the consuming of the unrighteous with fire, are SDA adherents the only righteous souls, or can other religions or people in general be righteous?
SDA is not an enemy
woe is America if a candidate is knocked out of the race for being an SDA Christian
especially when it is still forbidden in the mass media to even mention the IslamoNazi in our WH
what the Hell (excellent, tho accidental word choice here) has our mass media come to, anyway!?
the mass media has been infiltrated and taken over by the enemy... .the mass media is pretty much our enemy in America these days, NOT one Christian denomination whether SDA or Baptist or Nazarene or Catholic or whatever
Here’s the real concern about SDA and Carson. Is he, because of his beliefs, too pacifist to be Commander in Chief.
Not wanting to point a gun at someone is one thing. What about a battle group? Or a Battalion?
A pacifist will not be able to clean up the mess of this Administration.
13. The SDAs’ founding “prophetess” once claimed that wearing wigs heated the brain and caused insanity.
I wonder how a neurosurgeon like Dr. Carson feels about that?
The author of the linked article forgot to mention that the SDAers teach that the Pope is the “whore of Babylon”.
I have yet to hear Dr. Carson renounce this, even though he has a lot of conservative Catholic supporters.
Ben Carson’s problem isn’t his religion. His problem is that he’s woefully unprepared to be President of the United States.
Ben Carson wants to let every illegal stay here and become citizens. That alone is a disqualification for conservatives.
Ben Carson isn’t sure what types of firearms are appropriate for American citizens to be allowed to own. That alone is a disqualification for conservatives.
Ben Carson thinks we can just do away with Medicare. In its place Ben is going to give every Senior $2,000 to put in a savings account to go toward their $10,000 to $20,000 annual premium for private insurance. Your Mom and mine will be bankrupt in a year.
Do you really want Ben Carson taking the 3:00 AM phone call? I sure don’t.
Also, unfortunately, that they were apparently up to their eyeballs in eugenics.
Been to a Catholic and SDA school as a child. Both were pretty good on education. Never joined either Faiths tho.
Trump needs to pull back on this one. SDA aren’t like muslims demanding convert or die. Stick to the important issues
WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidates not named Donald Trump have raised hundreds of millions of dollars for their campaigns and allied groups. Yet none of that money is being targeted against the celebrity real estate mogul, the party’s front-runner through the summer.
Now the first well-funded anti-Trump volley is coming, though not from another candidate. It’s from the Club for Growth, a Washington-based tax-cutting advocacy group that just months ago asked Trump for a contribution.
The group said Tuesday it will spend $1 million assailing Trump on TV in the early caucus state of Iowa. Its 30-second commercials, which begin Thursday, call him “the worst kind of politician,” highlight some of his most liberal positions and say he’s playing voters “for chumps.”
Trump would seem a ripe target for any conservative organization: He’s said in the past that he identifies “more as a Democrat.”
For now, though, Club for Growth is going it alone.
Some of the largest pro-Republican political groups — including the Koch brothers-led Americans for Prosperity, GOP strategist Karl Rove’s Crossroads groups and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce — say they have no immediate plans to swat at him.
Fred Malek, a longtime Republican presidential fundraiser who isn’t aligned with a specific candidate, said the approach of many has been to “let Trump beat Trump.”
“I’m not aware of any organized effort to attack Trump,” Malek said. “Rather, the best-informed Republicans feel the American people are smart enough to figure this out and won’t nominate Trump.”
Similarly, the candidates themselves, and the super PACs trying to help them win, haven’t put any money into a Trump-defeating effort on television. Instead, their strategy appears to be to wait for the star of the political summer to fade on his own.
Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who last week became the first candidate to leave the 2016 race, was one of the feistiest Trump combatants, but his super PACs never paid for any ads to amplify that message.
“Our plan, which I think is where a lot of folks are, was to wait as long as possible to do contrast ads or attacks on Trump,” said Austin Barbour, leader of a trio of super PACs that supported Perry. “There’s a feeling that his poll numbers are vastly inflated and will start coming down on their own, so no one wants to spend valuable resources doing what may just happen naturally.”
Club for Growth, which is paying for the ads through its super PAC, is no longer willing to wait.
The club’s resident, David McIntosh, said he at first assumed that Trump wasn’t a credible candidate but the candidate’s continued rise in the polls showed otherwise.
“We’ve realized we’ve got to take Donald Trump seriously and really show what his record is,” McIntosh said.
Club for Growth may not seem the perfect Trump-slayer; it unsuccessfully solicited a $1 million contribution from him in June. Indeed, Trump wrote Tuesday on Twitter that the club is “little respected” and, having been spurned by him, is “spending lobbyist and special interest money on ads” against him.
With the second GOP debate this week and voting in the earliest primary states less than five months away, the candidates and groups helping them are beginning to spend money on TV ads. Through the end of June, donors backing Trump’s Republican opponents had given about $300 million, Federal Election Commission reports show.
So far that money is helping the candidates define themselves rather than tear down Trump.
Right to Rise, a super PAC created to help former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, is on the air beginning $24 million worth of ads casting the former Florida governor as a “proven conservative” with “real results.” The ads are in Iowa and New Hampshire and spread South Carolina next week.
Trump’s meteoric rise has come not after a slew of pricey, well-crafted advertisements, but with the benefit of intense media coverage, which costs him nothing.
The Trump phenomenon “in a weird way is showing the diminishing importance of money in politics,” said John Jordan, a California winery owner and major Republican donor. “And because of that, I think the flow of money is slowing to a trickle.”
Through the end of June, Trump had mostly paid his own way, lending his campaign nearly all of the $1.9 million it reported raising.
The billionaire candidate has pledged to spend whatever it takes to win the GOP nomination, meaning that even the best-funded opponents or Republican groups could find themselves financially overmatched.
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Associated Press writer Thomas Beaumont contributed to this report from Des Moines, Iowa.
I personally like Dr. Carson, but knowing about his religious beliefs really give me pause. I haven’t studied it extensively, but what is listed here and what I do know, leads me to believe that I just can’t.
Putting that together with some of his statements, I think I would probably surmise that he and I agree on a lot of things. And for the most part a good man. Just not for President. My first choice is Ted Cruz, but I will vote for Mr. Trump should he win the nomination. I think just needs to reign in his mouth on occasion
I will not vote for:
Jeb Bush
Marco Rubio
or anyone else I would define as a squishy moderate who accomplishes absolutely nothing but more of the same destruction we’ve witnessed these past years with Obama. They are horrible public servants.
I will not vote anymore, ever, for the “lesser of 2 evils” Evil is evil, no gradations. I hate to sound fatalistic or like a purist because I’m really not. Voting is a sacred honor and I am grateful that I live in America, even now.
But I sense a real dread about what’s happenin, what will happen.
God is in charge, always and forever, but we are in for some hard times.
This question should be posed to all candidates:
Is there anything in your religion that will prohibit you from fulfilling your Constitutional duties as CIC, be it “not” going to war, “not” saluting our flag, “not” imposing the Federal death penalty, “not” lighting our nation's National Christmas Tree, etc.” (That list could be as detailed and long as the questioneer wants).
I remember JFK's election and concern that the Pope might influence JFK's decisions or even control the White House from Rome!
In that same election, Nixon was a Quaker, but his religion didn't the same media attention.
My point is that up and until this Republic of ours nominates a practicing Muslim or an avowed atheist, the various sects of the candidates' Christian religions are not of all that much importance to me.