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Actually, Canada, health care isn’t ‘free’
Globe and Mail ^ | 10/26/2015 | Andre Picard

Posted on 10/26/2015 1:28:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

At sporting matches, it is customary for fans of the home team to chant unflattering jabs at their opponents, and the Sunday night soccer “friendly” game between Canada and the U.S., played at Toronto’s BMO Field, was no exception.

What was unusual though was one of the taunts chosen by the Canadian faithful: “Free health care, free health care.”

If there is one thing that distinguishes the two neighbouring countries, it is their health care systems.

Canada’s state-funded insurance program, informally known as medicare, ensures a measure of universality and equity in health-care delivery. It is, for better or worse, often held out as this country’s defining feature, our pride and joy. This despite the fact that medicare coverage is far less comprehensive than any other universal health system.

The U.S., as we all know, has a non-system that is far more polarized and less equitable. Those who are insured privately tend to have extensive coverage and great care, while tens of millions of citizens who are uninsured or underinsured pay heavily for their care (to the point where health expenses are a leading cause of bankruptcy) and must sometimes depend on charity.

These distinctions are well known, if frequently exaggerated for political effect.

It is not surprising, then, that the taunts of soccer fans would spark an interesting polemic on Twitter.

Are soccer fans more politically astute and clever than hockey fans, who tend to limit themselves to profundities like “Go Leafs Go” and “Crosby sucks”?

Or, more to the point, do Canadians really think health care is free?

Last year in Canada, we spent an estimated $200.5-billion on health services. About 70 per cent of the total, $141-billon, was paid from public coffers and the other $59.5-billion with private insurance and out-of-pocket.

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Written 3 years ago, but I post it in order to see how Freepers respond.

I think their arguments are still relevant today

1 posted on 10/26/2015 1:28:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Actual adults don’t need government to step in and take the place of their parents. Canada needs to grow up.


2 posted on 10/26/2015 1:30:34 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: SeekAndFind

ObamaCare Yay Or Nay? The Truth About Canada!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw

DRUGS ARE AWESOME!! Socialized Healthcare Sucks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdARfegZDns


3 posted on 10/26/2015 1:31:08 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Last year in Canada, we spent an estimated $200.5-billion on health services. About 70 per cent of the total, $141-billon, was paid from public coffers and the other $59.5-billion with private insurance and out-of-pocket.

I didn't know that private health insurance was available in Canada.
4 posted on 10/26/2015 1:33:09 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind
Whenever the user considers something to be "free" it will be overused. Ask anybody who works in a Canadian ER.

Even token deductibles would cut costs enormously, but the government will not hear of it.

5 posted on 10/26/2015 1:33:44 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Buy gold, silver, land, guns, and ammo.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s about $5700 per Canadian.


6 posted on 10/26/2015 1:35:49 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Army Air Corps

Yes...they figured out that “Free” didn’t work so well...and from what I understand have some kind of dual system.


7 posted on 10/26/2015 1:41:54 PM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the US wasn’t paying the cost of the free world’s defense and taking care of half of Mexico and Central America it could provide “free” healthcare as well.


8 posted on 10/26/2015 1:43:01 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: goodnesswins

Thanks for the update.


9 posted on 10/26/2015 1:45:14 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind

The average Canadian pays about $11,000 a year in taxes towards healthcare.

It’s not that Canadian healthcare is bad, for what it covers, but much of it could be done by the person themselves with a little bit of education.


10 posted on 10/26/2015 1:46:50 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: goodnesswins

It sounds like the French system where there is a pretty large market for private supplemental health insurance to cover what the universal health insurance does not cover.


11 posted on 10/26/2015 1:48:15 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: AmusedBystander

The taxes are about the same between the two countries. Canada gets healthcare, we get a Roman-style military.


12 posted on 10/26/2015 1:51:27 PM PDT by Wolfie
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RE: The average Canadian pays about $11,000 a year in taxes towards healthcare.

Where is this information coming from?


13 posted on 10/26/2015 1:54:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/health/typical-family-will-pay-more-than-11k-for-health-care-in-2014-fraser-institute-1.1897266


14 posted on 10/26/2015 1:55:42 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: SeekAndFind

Its not really free.

Canada’s health care system is publicly funded and privately delivered.

Its different from the UK’s NHS that’s entirely managed by the state.


15 posted on 10/26/2015 2:06:06 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

As long as Canadian newspapers advertisements are full of medical tourists going to India, Thailand, Germany, etc., to avoid queues waiting for immediate surgeries, no American should envy Canadians.
I’ve never seen medical tourists ads in America.
Medical tourism means you pay in full upfront.


16 posted on 10/26/2015 2:07:38 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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To: namvolunteer

The very rich of course can go abroad to get private treatment.

Unless its an emergency, in Canada you do have to see a doctor.


17 posted on 10/26/2015 2:09:19 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

I lived for a time in Canada and partook of OHIP, the Ontario arm of the operation. Remember how when you go to the post office, wait in a long line, note that most service windows are closed, and finally get to the front of the line only to be served by a bored, surly postal worker as you look behind him/her to see idle workers standing around chit chatting while patrons continue to pile up behind you?

If you have experienced the above, there’s no need
visit Canada’s health system to experience it. You
have already done it.


18 posted on 10/26/2015 2:19:03 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
In the 80’s, I had a friend (American) who was married to a Canadian hockey player. They lived in Canada in the off season. I have been in health care for decades so I asked her what was the system really like. She said in the areas with more sparse populations, the locals would bring their kids to the ER with some complaint and then leave them, like it was childcare. The clinics couldn't do anything about it, so kept the children until the parents came to fetch them. Why do I see how this could happen here?
19 posted on 10/26/2015 2:28:10 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: SeekAndFind

It amazes me when liberals claim that ANYTHING is free...if it is free to you, I paid for it, if it is free to me, you paid for it...why don’t we just pay for our own??,p>

People stand in line at the border to come here for medical care...their waiting times are ludicrous.


20 posted on 10/26/2015 2:30:22 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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