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Written 3 years ago, but I post it in order to see how Freepers respond.

I think their arguments are still relevant today

1 posted on 10/26/2015 1:28:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Actual adults don’t need government to step in and take the place of their parents. Canada needs to grow up.


2 posted on 10/26/2015 1:30:34 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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ObamaCare Yay Or Nay? The Truth About Canada!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw

DRUGS ARE AWESOME!! Socialized Healthcare Sucks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdARfegZDns


3 posted on 10/26/2015 1:31:08 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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Last year in Canada, we spent an estimated $200.5-billion on health services. About 70 per cent of the total, $141-billon, was paid from public coffers and the other $59.5-billion with private insurance and out-of-pocket.

I didn't know that private health insurance was available in Canada.
4 posted on 10/26/2015 1:33:09 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Whenever the user considers something to be "free" it will be overused. Ask anybody who works in a Canadian ER.

Even token deductibles would cut costs enormously, but the government will not hear of it.

5 posted on 10/26/2015 1:33:44 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Buy gold, silver, land, guns, and ammo.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s about $5700 per Canadian.


6 posted on 10/26/2015 1:35:49 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the US wasn’t paying the cost of the free world’s defense and taking care of half of Mexico and Central America it could provide “free” healthcare as well.


8 posted on 10/26/2015 1:43:01 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: SeekAndFind

The average Canadian pays about $11,000 a year in taxes towards healthcare.

It’s not that Canadian healthcare is bad, for what it covers, but much of it could be done by the person themselves with a little bit of education.


10 posted on 10/26/2015 1:46:50 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: SeekAndFind

Its not really free.

Canada’s health care system is publicly funded and privately delivered.

Its different from the UK’s NHS that’s entirely managed by the state.


15 posted on 10/26/2015 2:06:06 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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As long as Canadian newspapers advertisements are full of medical tourists going to India, Thailand, Germany, etc., to avoid queues waiting for immediate surgeries, no American should envy Canadians.
I’ve never seen medical tourists ads in America.
Medical tourism means you pay in full upfront.


16 posted on 10/26/2015 2:07:38 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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I lived for a time in Canada and partook of OHIP, the Ontario arm of the operation. Remember how when you go to the post office, wait in a long line, note that most service windows are closed, and finally get to the front of the line only to be served by a bored, surly postal worker as you look behind him/her to see idle workers standing around chit chatting while patrons continue to pile up behind you?

If you have experienced the above, there’s no need
visit Canada’s health system to experience it. You
have already done it.


18 posted on 10/26/2015 2:19:03 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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It amazes me when liberals claim that ANYTHING is free...if it is free to you, I paid for it, if it is free to me, you paid for it...why don’t we just pay for our own??,p>

People stand in line at the border to come here for medical care...their waiting times are ludicrous.


20 posted on 10/26/2015 2:30:22 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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The response to the “free health care” chant is “You'll need it."
22 posted on 10/26/2015 2:33:20 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
26 posted on 10/26/2015 2:36:35 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Sanders/Cruz in 2016!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most Canadians I’ve known have been honest enough to point out that their healthcare is not “free” as they pay a boatload of taxes for it.


35 posted on 10/26/2015 2:59:28 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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My wife was surprised to discover this as well, coming from the US. Medication is not covered unless you are poor or are lucky enough to have insurance through work.


38 posted on 10/26/2015 3:33:18 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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“Free” health care isn’t worth much if you must wait months to see a doctor, & months more still to get needed treatment. Sick people often die from lack of treatment. How many illnesses can be treated successfully if detected early? How many will suffer & die without early detection?

There are 2 reasons for long wait times - too many patients & too few doctors, clinics, & hospitals. The author dwells on the former while ignoring the latter which is entirely controlled by the government.

Government could double the amount of medical staffs & services, cutting wait times in half, but probably doubling national costs. Add in the inevitable huge, expensive, inefficient government bureaucracy (staffed by cronyism & patronage) needed to manage such a system & ultimately, wait times, poor care, & stifling bureaucracy will continuously increase, as will suffering & death.

So, it boils down to this: The government bureaucracy decides who lives & who dies by the level of funding it provides. That funding level is dependent on lying, self-serving, clueless politicians, the worst management possible. Government health care will only get worse, as witnessed in Britain, where patients die in hospital halls from neglect & call relatives/friends begging for food & water; in other words, third world health care.


42 posted on 10/26/2015 3:43:44 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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Actually, the article endorses the Canadian system, just not calling it “free.”


43 posted on 10/26/2015 3:55:06 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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Nothing the government provides is free - it’s just paid for remotely by taxpayers’ money....


45 posted on 10/26/2015 9:04:04 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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Not very long ago, one could argue that although Canada health-care was “free” to its users, with the many attendant problems of long waiting times, particularly for chronic conditions, their system forced Canadians who could afford it, to go to the United States for treatment.

I have no doubt that has changed greatly under Obamacare. The US Government under Obama is speeding up destruction of US healthcare. We now not only have expensive health-care, it has become sub-standard care also.


46 posted on 10/26/2015 9:17:10 PM PDT by PGR88
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